|Fred was not the only family
member with musical talent during those heady days.
His second wife Claudine (Dee) used to help with
songwriting and singing. In fact Dee still has a great
voice to this day.
Fred's two elder sons, Gerald and Fred (Red) had a
group called The Michaels at the end of the seventies
until Gerald got very sick. A guy called Jim White was
also in the group.
Red would start up another group sometime later called
"The Gentlemen and I".
"They displayed great potential" says Fred,
"and it was Lawrence and
myself who taught them how to sing. But
my barber John Jordan, who had owned 'The Place', wanted
to manage them. So did I. But he went behind my back and
tried to set something up with Atlantic.
When Atlantic got wind that there was a behind the
scenes problem they pulled the plug as they did not want
any internal feuding.
In the end nothing got cut which was a shame.
Jordan also set the group up with some club work but
that ended in problems too.