By STUBASS (64.12.97.7) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 02:30 am:

GREETINGS: THIS THREAD IS SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO PISS MOST OF YOU OFF!!!...HERE I AM IN LOS ANGELES, WHERE TEMPERATURES TODAY REACHED UP INTO THE 80'S IN SOME PARTS!!!...THE STEVENSON RANCH FORCAST IS FOR SUNNY SKIES AND TEMPERATURE'S IN THE UPPER 70'S FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS AHEAD!!!...STUBASS CAN ONLY HOPE THAT THIS TREND CONTINUES INTO NEXT WEEK WHEN HE IS TAKING FOUR DAYS OFF AND WILL HOPEFULLY PLAY MUCH QUALITY GOLF!!!...WHO KNOW'S...PERHAPS STUBASS WILL EVEN RUN INTO SMOKEY AT ONE OF THE LOCAL COURSES!!!...WILL YOU ALL PRAY FOR THE CONTINUATION OF THIS FINE WEATHER FOR STUBASS TO ENJOY???...MOST APPRECIATING...STU

By MEL&THEN SOME (195.219.7.86) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 02:51 am:

Stu,
I Hope it rains for forty days and forty nights as Little Jimmy Scott once sang(hee,hee)
Mel(just about to hit the frost).

By Gary Rosen (12.234.25.217) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 03:35 am:

Stu,

Hopefully the fine weather will continue with nothing more than a little 8.5 earthquake to break the monotony (just kidding, actually I'm up here in NorCal myself).

- Gary Rosen

By Ritchie (62.254.0.8) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 04:48 am:

Never having been to the City of Angels I can't comment.... except that my heart bleeds for you all, having to put up with such temperatures. Here, the thermometer tells me it's freezing point, and the snow on the ground rather helps confirm this :o)

By Vickie (152.163.188.68) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 05:41 am:

Ritchie,
I have never seen snow fall..

Vickie

By Carl Dixon London (62.31.40.155) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 06:02 am:

Well, Stubass, I would have been certainly cheesed off had you mentioned this last week of course, when there was 'nothing but grey Skies' and rain over London. However, we have a clear, fresh Sky today, which is a great start to the New Year. There have been terrific floods around the country, which many of us have escaped. As for falling snow, Vicki, I cannot believe that! When it snows in London I will stream a picture of it from our apartment window, on a secret personal url I use (that's if I can get the driver to work with it!!) Have you ever touched snow, or made a snowball?

By John Lester (81.132.42.116) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 06:27 am:

Stubass

I write this note with the sun in my eyes in sunny London..........ok, it might only last a few minutes, just long enough to take a snapshot (!)

hehehe

By Vickie (205.188.209.38) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 07:46 am:

HEy Carl,
I have seen snow on the ground..and have made a snowball ...I just have never seen it fall out of the sky or been around snow for more than a day, here in LA we drive to the snow then come back home...It snowed near my office on The Gilmore Girls outdoor set on the back lot all last month, that looked very real

Vickie

By Ritchie the Snowman (62.254.0.8) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 08:19 am:

Vickie -

I guess we can save all that time and effort. I can see snow right now without having to drive anywhere ;o)

By Ed Wolfrum (69.3.250.148) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 10:48 am:

Just so you guys know what the real world is like, here is a shot out the front window of our home in Royal Oak, Michigan.

We have about 6 inches on the ground and it is a comfortable 30 degrees F.



I know you are truly homesick for this kind of weather STUBASS.

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 10:57 am:

Yesterday the temp in Monterey was in the low 70's. It felt like a very nice Spring day in Detroit. The truth of the matter is I wouldn't mind seeing snow once in a while. Especially during the past Holiday. Vickie, I'm sorry you have never experienced a quiet, nightime snowfall when the street lights make eveything sparkle and the world seems so very quiet.Thanks for the pic Ed. It brings back nice memories.

By STUBASS (205.188.209.38) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 11:00 am:

YEA ED: SURE IT'S PRETTY *NOW*...BUT JUST WAIT UNTIL IT ALL TURNS TO SLUSH!!!...AND ACTUALLY, I HAVE TO ADMIT THAT WHEN YOUR BLOOD STARTS TO THIN OUT HERE, THAT 50 DEGREES SEEMS LIKE 30 BACK THERE!!!...MEL: ABOUT THIS 40 DAY AND NIGHT THING...WHERE WOULD I EVER FIND ANOTHER ONE OF *YOU* TO ENSURE SURVIVAL OF THE SPECIES???...TO ALL OF MY UK FRIENDS...HELL...THEY CANT EVEN FIND JUST ONE NICE WEEK A YEAR IN WHICH TO PLAY THE "BRITTISH OPEN"!!!...NOW I KNOW WHY YOU HAVE THOSE ALL NIGHT DANCERS...IT'S TOO DAMN COLD TO LEAVE!!!...STU

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 11:05 am:

Yeah Stu...this is where my nostalgic fantasy falls apart. Remembering when you step down deep into a puddle of icy slush. Or looking at all the salt slime on your new car and knowing in the spring you will see the beginnings of deterioration. So our ground shakes a little once and a while. Big Deal.

By Sue (152.163.188.68) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 11:06 am:

Ralph,
Those snowy scenes are easier to enjoy when they clean the streets ... if I can drive through it, I don't mind if there's several inches on the lawns.

You're right, it's the quiet snowfall at night, with a fire going ...

By Sue (152.163.188.68) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 11:07 am:

p.s. Those near and dear to me work in paint finishing, and the new car paints stand up to all the crud, our old ones (esp the older Japanese models) didn't.

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 11:11 am:

Sue,
Before I moved to Calfornia I was living in Walled Lake. I actually liked Winter out there. The snow stayed clean and it was like a picture looking at the lake fom my house. I did tend to get snowed in from time to time and had to wait for the snow plow to open the streets. I'd just throw a couple of more logs on the fire and enjoy the day.

By Sue (152.163.188.68) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 11:19 am:

Stu --
One word in defense of slush ...while walking across the street last winter I stepped into a big Detroit pothole and fell forward, right onto my face ...because of the bedrock of snow and then slush over it, I didn't feel a thing ...maybe it's the yoga too (laugh) ..

By STUBASS (205.188.209.38) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 11:39 am:

ONE THING I GOTTA ADMIT THOUGH...DETROITERS DRIVE MUCH BETTER AT HIGH SPEEDS WITH A TWO INCH SHEET OF ICE ON THE ROAD THAN MOST LOS ANGELEANS DO AFTER THAT FIRST DROP OF RAIN FALLS FROM THE SKY...THEY TOTALLY SPAZ OUT!!!...STU

By Ritchie the Snowman (62.254.0.8) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 11:43 am:

Aw, shucks!

I was just trying a mass-mailing to you guys, with a handful of snow as an attachment. Sadly, it melted before I could upload it. (Still, the thought was there!)

By Sue (152.163.188.68) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 11:44 am:

Ritchie aren't you in London? I thought the snow melted pretty fast there -- I saw roses in bloom there in December once.

By Ritchie (62.254.0.8) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 11:48 am:

London, Sue? Nope - about 120 miles away, deep in potato country!

By Sue (152.163.188.68) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 11:49 am:

Ah OK! That would explain the snow ...

By MEL&THEN SOME (195.219.7.16) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 12:02 pm:

Its all very well saying how nice and pretty the snow looks,but when you have to work in it all day the snow dosent look as pretty.
Stu,hope your still in the bunker mate(hee,hee)
mel(the ice-man)

By Vickie (152.163.188.68) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 01:14 pm:

I know I have misssed out on snow, I love movies that have snow,pics, postcards, photos, ect, and the whole hot chocolate & fireplace thing I think I would like..My vacation time always hits it summer when the TV season ends so I don't get to visit my family in Tennesee or Michigan to see snow in the winter..

Vickie

By thecount (65.60.200.116) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 01:49 pm:

"DONT EAT YELLOW SNOW"
Some guy had pissed the words,F--K CLINTON
in the snow at the white house lawn,
Bill wanted it analized immedeitly,
the FBI found out the next day and said,
we have good news and bad news,
the good news is we know who the guy is,
the bad news is,
it"s in HILLARYS handwriting.

HEY STU,I'am not a golfer,but I did hit two good balls this past summer,I stepped on a rake.
If your going to PALM SPRINGS,you might run across both SMOKEY and B.GORDY
I go there every year for FO.MO.CO. as a paint repairman,being we do the FRANK SINATRA tournament
and do our commercials there and on the golf courses and supply the top players with FO.MO.CO.
cars.We did this when we had the contract with the BOB HOPE CLASSIC,now CRYSLER.
Anyhow,last year as I was watching the golf carts come on the greens,here comes SMOKEY and BERRY
I started singing,dum-be-lum-be-laa,
dum-be-lum-be-la,this kat named MICKEY came from
out of town,and SMOKEY stopped the cart and said,hey I know that song,
I said,yea,me too and I dig all the MOTOWN songs,
BERRY said where you from INKSTER,
close enough man.
We rapped for a good half hour,then it was time to leave us pee-ons alone.
I have some kool pictures of them from that day,
I'll try to post or send them to you.
I'll be there again this year,maybe I can get you a comp pass for the T.P.C.
"COUNT"

By douglasm (68.113.15.28) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 01:50 pm:

Stubass--Winter wouldn't be winter without snow, although we won't mention the heart attack I thought I was having the other day shoveling the walk. Besides, IF it snowed in LA, I would hate to think how people would drive. An inch of white stuff ties Seattle up in knots.

By Vickie (64.12.97.7) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 02:02 pm:

the thought of snow and LA drivers is very scary..
a light rain throws the whole day into turmoil and becomes a big news item on the evening news..

Vickie

By Vickie (64.12.97.7) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 02:02 pm:

that's a great story COUNT!

Vickie

By Ritchie (62.254.0.8) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 02:03 pm:

So, Albert Hammond was right after all...

By I dont believe I remember that (68.113.15.28) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 02:05 pm:

No, "it pours, man it pours"

By Vickie (64.12.97.7) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 02:08 pm:

pretty much...LOL..We are getting rain this year cause of El Nino at some point, February perhaps....
A few years back I was telling a friend a story, trying to get her to remember something that we did, and she couldn't no matter what I said..I finally said, You know it was the day it rained and she said OH yeah!

Vickie

By Gary Rosen (12.234.25.217) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 02:09 pm:

I grew up in Connecticut, now in California. I miss snow, but I don't miss driving in snow (and slush and ice)! You're right about California drivers, Stu - they slow down for rain more than Northern drivers slow down for snow. Still drives me nuts after > 30 years here.

By Ritchie (62.254.0.8) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 02:11 pm:

So at this moment, let's spare a thought for that poor guy called Al Nino, who - it was reported - received tons of hate-mail from people who misunderstood the news/weather bulletins and blamed it all on him.

By Vickie (64.12.97.7) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 02:14 pm:

It rained a few weeks back, but I have not had rain on my morning commuter for a very long time..
The lass El Nino was ugly...

poor Al
hope he doesn't get mail this next round..

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 02:19 pm:

COUNT: I ENJOY PALM SPRINGS AREA GOLF!!!..I TOO HAVE RUN ACROSS SMOKEY ON THE GOLF COURSE, ALTHOUGH I DIDN'T KNOW THAT BG PLAYED!!!...GOLF FANS...KEEP AN EYE OUT THIS YEAR FOR JASON GORE ON THE PGA TOUR!!!...HE PLAYS AT MY LOCAL COURSE, AND I USED TO PLAY TOURNAMENTS WITH HIM EVERY FRIDAY!!!...SUPER NICE KID WHO LED PEPPERDINE TO THE NCAA CHAMPIONSHIP THE YEAR AFTER TIGER WOODS LEFT STANFORD!!!...STU

By Lynn Bruce (65.60.200.153) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 03:47 pm:

Every aug. we vacation in the upper penninsula of Michigan in a cabin in the woods on the Taquamenon river.All the locals have said we should come up in the winter.We never thought it would be fun.We had to get out of our house last feb. due to remodeling. We called the owner and he said it,s vacant,it,s yours.
While we were there we had three blizzards in two weeks,10 degree temps.. I have never seen such beauty in all my life as saw walking down fire trails with my wife and two dogs. The snow was like diamonds,all clean and fresh. It was so quiet it felt like cotton in your ears. The skys were royal blue. When your dressed for cold weather,there,s a lot to be said for the upper peninsula of Michigan to take the edges off of most people in this hectic life-style most of us lead nowdays.
SLAINTE, LYNN

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 03:51 pm:

Lynn,
I know the area. It's like magic there. Norhern Michigan has always been special to me. One of the most beautiful areas of the world without a doubt.

By Nish (205.188.209.38) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 03:53 pm:

LA may be lovely Stu, but I believe Sylvia Robinson said "LA sunshine can't warm this heart of mine..." no only music can do that! (I'm feeling a tad jealous because it is absolutely FREEZING here back east!)

By douglasm (68.113.15.28) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 03:54 pm:

Gawd, Lynn, I know what you're saying. One nice thing Wenatchee, WA is were about 60 miles from the top of the Cascade Crest. Yours was a perfect description of a winter day at Lake Wenatchee, or up the Entiat River valley. I am jelous, your descriptive narative is soooo good.

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 04:04 pm:

TRUE NISH: LA SUNSHINE CAN'T WARM YOUR HEART...BUT IT SURE CAN KEEP YOUR ASS FROM FREEZING...STU

By 1wicked (64.32.154.94) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 04:32 pm:

Count....you're gonna hafta pay my dry cleaning bill & about 2 hours pay. That "stepped on a rake" line made me s%#t my pants....

By ErikT.O. (64.228.114.111) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 04:41 pm:

Hi Count, as someone who very rarely 'laughs out loud' after reading something online, I have to confess that joke forced an audible chuckle!
Erik/ Still bike riding through snow storms in TO...

By thecount (65.60.200.116) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 05:43 pm:

Wicked,please do send me your pants,I'am sorry,I meen send me the bill,I'll be happy to pay for it knowing I could make a friend from a joke,and to make you laugh is good for the pee-pee.
"COUNT"

Erik,good,it's nice to know someone is getting joy out of a little humor between the bickering and name calling.Hope you look before walking over a rake,and never try to forge a signature,unless someone else is holding it for you(FEMALE) "COUNT"

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 07:09 pm:

WEATHER UPDATE!!!...85-DEGREES IN BEAUTIFUL THOUSAND OAKS, CA AT THIS HOUR...AS A MATTER OF FACT...I'M SWELTERING IN THIS SWEATER I DECIDED TO WEAR TODAY...SO OFF IT COMES!!!...MOST EVERYONE I SEE ARE WEARING T-SHIRTS AND SHORTS!!!..."METEOROLOGIST STUBASS"

By Ritchie (62.254.0.8) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 07:13 pm:

Hey, I have a tee-shirt on too...

...plus a thick denim shirt, plus a sweater, and a fleece on top of all that. (And it's still cold!)

Temperature check: one degree Celsius.

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 07:15 pm:

OH OH: I JUST REMEMBERED...IT WAS THE SAME TYPE OF WARMING TREND DURING THE JANUARY NORTHRIDGE EARTHQUAKE SEVERAL YEARS AGO!!!...I GUESS I'M GONNA GET OUT SOME OLD RECORDS..."WHOLE LOT OF SHAKIN GOIN ON"..."SHAKE YOUR BOOTY"..."ALL SHOOK UP"...AND THAT ALL TIME CLASSIC..."WHAT A FOOL BELIEVES"!!!...

By Millie (68.40.209.129) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 07:18 pm:

I just got back from LA, and the weather was nice but nothing to brag about. It was in the high 60's, and rained twice while I was there. So, all is not as it seems although it was better than being in Detroit who ended up with 5-6 inches of snow on Christmas Day.

It's all a state of mind no matter where you are. I lived in LA two times, and came back home both times. Home is where the heart is.

By Ritchie (62.254.0.8) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 07:19 pm:

And a classic piece of UK Rock'n'Roll for good measure - Johnny Kidd & the Pirates' "Shakin' All Over"

By Sue (64.12.97.7) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 07:23 pm:

OK Californians I have to add this -- I was out in L.A., a work/pleasure trip, and met Don Was for lunch. I told him I'd spent the morning wading in the Pacific -- he almost had a heart attack ... he shrieked "You went into the ocean?? NOT AT SANTA MONICA???!"

I said no, that I went in at Malibu. He sighed, relieved, said thank God, I was ABOVE the city ...that it was incredibly DANGEROUS to go into the polluted water at Santa Monica. The water at Malibu wasn't great but at least he didn't think I'd get sick.

Yeow! In Michigan I'm using to being able to jump into whatever water I see ...

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 07:33 pm:

SUE; DON'T DRINK THE OCEAN WATER IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA!!!...BY THE SAME TOKEN...DON'T EAT THE SNOW IN SOUTHEASTERN MICHIGAN...STU

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 11:17 pm:

FINAL WEATHER REPORT FOR THE DAY (8:20 P.M. PST)...IT'S DARK!!!...TEMPERATURE...ABOUT 65 DEGREES!!!THINK I'LL TAKE THE DOG FOR A NICE LONG WALK!!!...STUBASS (TAKE *THAT* SONNY ELIOT)

By Vickie (205.188.209.38) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 11:27 pm:

It is a nice eveniong here in LA Stu,
I have become a bit "drubk" listnening to Disco Saturday Night on K-Big 104 and also just reading the forum, I started with one beer and now I am tipsty...LOLOLOLOLO

By Vickie (205.188.209.38) on Saturday, January 04, 2003 - 11:27 pm:

sorry, i can't type folsk

tee, hee, heee.

Vickie

By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 01:15 am:

OK VICKIE: I HAD TO PUT MIKIE TO BED LAST NIGHT!!!...DON'T MAKE ME DO THE SAME THING WITH YOU!!!...CONCERNED...STU

By Livonia Ken (206.148.224.191) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 02:16 am:

Stubass,
Enjoy your golf during these short winter days as the lengthy Spring and summer days to come will likely have you choking on LA Ozone.

Regards,
Ken

By STUBASS (205.188.209.38) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 02:26 am:

KEN: THE OZONE LAYER AIN'T A DROP IN THE BUCKET NEXT TO THE PACK OF CIGARETTES A DAY THAT I SMOKE!!!...STU (CHOKING MY WAY TO BED)!!!...

By Jay (24.55.210.61) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 03:45 am:

Stu you shit-stirrer!!

I just got back from the LA Auto Show.....In Shirt Sleeves!

But my Detroit connection still shows... I helped out at the Lincoln booth for the LLSOC car club ; - )

Hot in January? Why I got a sunburn the day of the Northridge Quake!

NAIAS Detroit Auto Show next week.... Stay Warm!

By Vickie (205.188.209.38) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 05:34 am:

Stu, hahahaha
I put myself to bed...LOL, I had a burrito from this restaurant that was bigger than my foot and when I was finished I had drank 3 beers before I knew it..I am a light weight...I was cracking myself up and just couldn't type anything!!
Now I am up and can't sleep...
BTW, it's still a beautiful early, early morning here in LA..usually I have the heat on by now, but have a window open ..it's nice.

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 12:14 pm:

Vickie,
As cute as you are, you definitely take it to a higher level after a couple of beers.

By Vickie (205.188.209.38) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 12:25 pm:

Ralph,
I try to be reserved and just learn here..
Everyone here knows a helluva a lot more than I do that's for sure..I like to be the sponge in most situations anyway..If my 3 beers took me to a higher level, that's a good thing huh?
Thanks for answering my email BTW...


Vickie

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 12:29 pm:

Yes Blondie, that's a good thing.

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 12:59 pm:

WEATHER UPDATE: 9:55 AM (PST) THOUSAND OAKS, CA. SUNNY SKIES, TEMPERATURE ABOUT 82 DEGREES...HIGH EXPECTED IN THE LOW TO MID 90'S HERE IN SO CAL. JAY: I THOUGHT THAT YOU WERE ONE OF US!!!...VICKIE: I'M SURPRISED YOU COULD GET ANY SLEEP AT ALL BEHIND A SO. CAL BURRITO AT MIDNIGHT!!!...IN TRYING TO DETERMINE THE EXACT SIZE OF THE BURRITO THAT YOU DEVOURED...COULD YOU PLEASE GIVE US YOUR SHOE SIZE???...RALPH: SPEAKING OF WALLED LAKE...DO YOU REMEMBER A RESTAURANT THERE NAMED "PEPINO"S"???...BEST PAN FRIED TROUT I'VE EVER TASTED, WHEN I WAS VISITING A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO!!!...ALSO MY OLD RADIO MATE...CHUCK SANTONI HAD A HOUSE ON WALLED LAKE!!!...STU

By Vickie (205.188.209.38) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 01:05 pm:

The Burrito from Los Fuentes was larger than my size 7 shoe, I am looking at my foot and think it was was just a tad larger...

Best burritos in LA

tee, hee, hee

By Ritchie (62.254.0.8) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 01:15 pm:

So, fill me in - my Spanish is a little rusty. A burrito is a small donkey - yes? ;o)

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 01:15 pm:

Stu,
I don't remember that particular restaurant, but I left Walled Lake for California in '78 so it may not have existed then. When I lived there the main restaurant was Woody's. All the locals went there.

Vickie,
In order that you stay sober in the future, I suggest you never eat a burrito bigger than your foot.

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 01:23 pm:

RITCHIE: YOU MEAN "BURRO"...WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE TYPE OF MEAT THEY USE IN MOST SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA "BURRITO'S"...STU

By Vickie (205.188.209.38) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 01:25 pm:

I agree Ralph, the bigger the burrito the more beers that should go with it..

Ritchie, From the aol dictionary:

bur·ri·to
Pronunciation: b&-'rE-(")tO
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -tos
Etymology: American Spanish, from Spanish, little donkey, diminutive of burro
Date: 1934
: a flour tortilla rolled or folded around a filling (as of meat, beans, or cheese) and usually baked

You guys crack me up

By Ritchie (62.254.0.8) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 01:30 pm:

Wow, Vickie. Hats off to the aol dictionary for tracing the origin to 1934. What did Mexicans eat before that?

And, Stu - I know where you're coming from. Here we have Doner Kebabs. The meat used in these is amazingly similar to minced alsatian.

By Horse (68.61.77.137) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 03:06 pm:

Stu,

You can have it,

Spent 8 yrs. in the Calabasas area. Was packed and ready to move it out when the Calabasas/Malibu fires came within 1/4 mile but I stayed. Got rocked big time by the 94' Northridge quake enough to sleep in the car for the next 10 days. Slept fully clothed for the next 8 months,(did wonders for the love life) but stayed. No vegetation from the fires and then loosened from the quake, I got caught in a boulder slide while driving through Malibu Canyon which totaled my new car before it wiped out the road. Was lucky enough to make it out alive. I finally got hip that it was time to get out. Besides, I'm closer to Nashville where I can make the hit and run jaunts where the action really is. You can have it Bro..!

P.S.

I'm with Nugent...Viva La Detroit...!

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 03:09 pm:

BUT HORSE: THE STABLES OUT AT SANTA ANITA ARE *MUCH* NICER THAN THOSE AT DRC OR HAZEL PARK!!!...STU

By Horse (68.61.77.137) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 03:10 pm:

All though I must admit, I did hear Stevenson Ranch was very nice. But it was told to me by a Californian....!


Oh give my a home... where the .....!

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 03:14 pm:

THATS OK HORSE: THEY CALL ANYTHING OUT HERE A RANCH IF THE HOUSES ARE MORE THAN 10 FEET APART!!!...STU

By Horse (68.61.77.137) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 03:16 pm:

Stu,

In all honesty, CA is absolutely gorgeous. Great life style and the people seem to live life to the fullest. But I personally require the 4 seasons as a sense of renewal. Too much of a good thing can kill your senses. (Ask Nugent

By Sue (64.12.97.7) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 03:19 pm:

Don't have to ask Nugent ...just look what happened to the Motown when it moved out there ...

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 03:21 pm:

I DON'T TALK TO NUGENT...HE MIGHT MISTAKE ME FOR A BABY DEER AND BLOW ME AWAY!!!...AS FOR THE "FOUR SEASONS"...I JUST LISTEN TO FRANKI VALLI OR VIVALDI AND GET MY FAIR SHARE!!!...STU

By Horse (68.61.77.137) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 03:27 pm:

Sue,

RIGHT ON...!


Stu,

Ah man's gotta do...What ah man's gotta do..!

By Sue (64.12.97.7) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 03:29 pm:

...to "the" Motown, oops.

Nugent isn't in Detroit anyway he's way out in Jackson, thankfully, closer to Chicago.

By Sue (64.12.97.7) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 03:30 pm:

The "Windy City Madman" just doesn't have the same ring though, does it? hahaha

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 03:33 pm:

SUE: IS HE IN PRISON UP THERE???...STU

By Horse (68.61.77.137) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 03:33 pm:

Sue,

It might be better for all involved between here and Chicago..!

Horse

By Sue (64.12.97.7) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 03:37 pm:

Stu -- only if being a loudmouth, carnivorous, long-haired Republican is against the law ...alas, it's not

By Horse (68.61.77.137) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 03:41 pm:

Stu,

Detroit forecast for today: Freezing Our A....s off, but got a pot full of hot home made mushroom soup on the stove with a rippin' fire in the family room. Nothing but forest outside the window and ready for a good read, later topped of by a velvety (Californian)Cabernet with classical on the box..! No oats to be sewn here..!


Horse

By Sue (64.12.97.7) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 03:43 pm:

Horse,
I agree, there's something about the change of seasons that sharpens the senses. Freezing our a..s off outside just makes the indoor fires and glasses of cabernet all the more welcoming ...and when spring comes, it's something ...

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 03:46 pm:

HORSE: I NEVER MADE IT PAST THE WORD "POT"!!!...SUE: I THINK THAT ONE OF THOSE THINGS *IS* AGAINST THE LAW...I'M JUST NOT SURE WHICH ONE!!!...STU

By Horse (68.61.77.137) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 03:49 pm:

Stu,

See....Sue has definitely got her prorities in line! Is there anyway we can persuade you back...? and if so, Bring quite a few cases of that fine cabernet fom Sonoma or Napa with you. Party at the Horse's stall.


Horse

By Common (64.12.97.7) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 03:51 pm:

Hello everyone,

Vicki, you alright there girlie? LOL! You were a little "out" there yesterday! Ha ha ha ha ha!

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 03:52 pm:

MAYBE I'LL SEE YOU ALL IN JUNE!!!...BESIDES...BY THAT TIME...THE WINE WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO PROPERLY AGE!!!...STU

By Horse (68.61.77.137) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 03:53 pm:

What is it with California and pot. A bit too much Spakoli (Ridgemont High) going on out there. That's what I mean about the senses..!

Horse

By Horse (68.61.77.137) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 03:55 pm:

Stu,

If you serious about the June thing, that would be cool. If it looks like that might happen, let us know if you would like to hook up.

Horse

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 04:01 pm:

ACTUALLY HORSE...MY NEPHEWS IMPENDING WEDDING THIS SUMMER WILL BRING MOST OF OUR DETROIT CONTINGENT OUT HERE...BUT YOU NEVER KNOW IF I CAN MAKE IT OVER THERE ANYWAY!!!...SUMMER IS BEAUTIFUL THERE AND THERE ARE SOME NICE GOLF COURSES TO ATTACK!!!...BUT IF I'M THERE...IT WOULD BE A PLEASURE TO HOOK UP!!!...STU

By Horse (68.61.77.137) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 04:06 pm:

Stu,

Just Say When..!

Horse

By Horse (68.61.77.137) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 04:09 pm:

SOUP'S UP...!


Horse

By thecount (65.60.200.116) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 05:09 pm:

Whenever I'am In either PLEASANTON ,norcal
or FAMOSA DRAGWAY,BAKERSFIELD,socal,
my main menue is IN and OUT BURGER.
At the strip in Bakersfield FUEL and GAS CHAMPIONSHIP,5 sec's in the 1/4 mile and IN and OUT burgers go together
The GOODGUYS HOT ROD NATIONALS,in PLEASANTON,it's the same,hot rods,street rods,kustoms,go with the
IN and OUT(URGE) BURGER.
One thing about west coast chinese resturants,the food is different then the east coast chinese food
I really didn't want chinese while in BAKERSFIELD,
but I had no choice for I was with four other gearheads,so okay lets go,I'll just wait till they're done and then stop at IN and OUT for me.
well,I learned a lesson while in that place of all chinese family and employes.
When the waiter asked what I wanted,I said I'll just have a bowl of CHILLIE,
holy shit,this kat gets so upset and gives the table a KARATE chop,oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh,
you get no chilrie here,what da fruck wrong wit you.So I said I'll just have a COKE,oooooooohhhhhhh,no cokie colie,squritch only.
I had to get up and go in the parking lot,the whole place was full of drag-racers laughing their asses off,and this was pissing ol hop sing off.
LESSON LEARNED,dont ask for chillie in chinese rest.
I'll send a case of white castle hambergures to whoever for 3hree IN and OUT BURGERS with cheese,and fries.ANY TAKERS????
"COUNT"

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 05:23 pm:

HEY COUNT: WE GET ALL THE WHITE CASTLES WE WANT OUT HERE...ONLY YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE FROZEN FOOD SECTION AT THE SUPERMARKET...BUT I ALMOST BROKE ALL MY TEETH OFF THE FIRST TIME I ATE THEM...UNTIL SOMEONE TOLD ME THAT YOU HAVE TO MICROWAVE THEM FIRST!!!...STU

By Vickie (152.163.188.68) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 05:44 pm:

Hey All, this is a funny thread...we should have one that is just about banter once in awhile..Seems like we get to know each other better...

Hey Common, yeah I am just enjoying one beer today,that's all I have left..It's so frickin' hot here ..I think my Patti info was accurate and Laura Nyro info as well on the other thread..I just couldn't type it at that moment..

By Horse (68.61.77.137) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 05:49 pm:

In & Out double double with Fries and a chocolate shake. Nothing like a Tommies Chili cheeseburger after a night of drinking.

Horse

By Vickie (152.163.188.68) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 05:57 pm:

Horse..

That is the best!! Tommie burger Yummy!!!!!

By Vickie (152.163.188.68) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 06:00 pm:

Ralph, how far are you from Santa Barbara?
I almost went there today, but instead my friend is coming down here for dinner...
I go up there often, let me know..I'll come visit you...

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 06:02 pm:

VICKIE: IF YOU ARE EVER IN VALENCIA...TRY "TIM-TOMS" CHILI BURGERS AND CHILI DOGS...THEY BAKE THEIR OWN BUNS FRESH ON THE SPOT!!!...I THINK THERE MAY BE ONE IN RESEDA ALSO!!!...STU

By Vickie (152.163.188.68) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 06:05 pm:

cool I live in Reseda!

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 07:10 pm:

Vickie,
A lttle further than you probably imagined. I'm 4 hours North of Santa Barbara and I would love for you to come visit me sometime if you're up to the drive.

By Nancy (24.101.72.243) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 10:42 pm:

Hey Stu
writing to you from Toronto, Canada, where it snowed from 6:00pm Thurs. all the way to saturday mid morning, it is supposed to be getting even colder by next weekend
L.A. weather sounds grrrrrrrrrrrreeeeaaat!!!!!!!

By STUBASS (64.12.97.7) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 10:43 pm:

LA WEATHER UPDATE...7:40 PM (PST)...MODERATE TEMPERATURES WITH CLEAR SKIES...TEMPERATURE IS 69 DEGREES!!!...GOLF TOMORROW MORNING...TEMPERATURE PREDICTED...MID TO UPPER 70'S...PROBLEM...25 TO 35 MILE PER HOUR WINDS THROUGH THE CANYONS AND PASSES (I'M PLAYING A MOUNTAIN TYPE COURSE SITUATED IN THE NEWHALL PASS)...GOOD NEWS...NO UTILITIES NEEDED...NO HEAT...NO A/C...NO $ 300 UTILITY BILL THIS MONTH!!!...STU

By Nancy (24.101.72.243) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 10:45 pm:

Enough please it just started to snow up here in Toronto again

By Sue (152.163.188.68) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 10:46 pm:

No A/C needed in L.A.? Quit tripping, Stu ...maybe for one month.

By STUBASS (64.12.97.7) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 10:53 pm:

NANCY: THEY'VE GOT AIRPLANES DEPARTING ABOUT EVERY THREE HOURS!!!...SEE YOU IN LA LA LAND...STU

By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 11:03 pm:

I warned James Jr. if he didn't stop bragging on LA, I was going to send him to Mikie on the first jet outta the MotorCity.

By STUBASS (64.12.97.7) on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 11:33 pm:

SIS: HE'D PROBABLY RETURN TO YOU WITH A VIOLIN AND BOW IN HAND, TELLING YOU THAT HE'S BEEN CONVERTED... AND IS NOW INTENT ON STUDYING * ONLY * THE "CLASSICS"!!!...STU

By Nancy (24.101.72.243) on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 10:31 pm:

Stu: we got more snow this morning and the temperature plummeted up here this afternoon I may be there sooner than you know

By STUBASS (205.188.209.38) on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 11:18 pm:

NANCY & ALL: IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE COMING OUT HERE...KEEP IN MIND THAT YOU SHOULD INFORM THE PILOT TO AVOID THE AIRSPACE OVER MALIBU RIGHT NOW!!!...UNFORTUNATLY, HIGH WINDS AND DRY WEATHER HAVE FED INTO A SERIOUS FIRE, WHICH IS MOVING INLAND THROUGH THE CANYONS AS WE SPEAK!!!...THE WINDS OUT ON THE GOLF COURSE THIS MORNING CONTINUED TO BLOW MY HAT OFF OF MY HEAD...AND I WAS TRYING TO KEEP THE BALL LOW, AS FOR IT NOT TO END UP ON THE 210 FREEWAY!!!...WINDS GUSTING TO 40 MPH!!!...BUT...AS WE SPEAK, IT IS STILL IN THE 60'S AT NIGHT...AND SUE:...STILL NO HEAT OR A/C NEEDED!!!...OTHERWISE...HURRY UP...IF YOU'RE LUCKEY...YOU MAY GET HERE IN TIME TO ENJOY OUR NEXT MAJOR EARTHQUAKE!!!...STU

By Vickie (205.188.209.38) on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 12:51 am:

Stu, I was not loving LA last night..the howling winds kept me up all night long.. It sounded like a bunch of pie pans got loose from a a bakery or something, all night long tin cans, tree branches, and stuff just blowing down the street making all kinds of noise..
My Deepak meditation tape didn't even help me sleep LOL ..The wind has kicked up again, I am putting in ear plugs tonight when I retire..

By Sue (152.163.188.68) on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 12:56 am:

Ah there's peace in the Motor City ...the deep snowy quiet beckons ...as the temperature slithers down into the teens, nothing is stirring outside because it's frozen.

Inside, laughter, soul music, and peppermint (or apple) schnapps ...

Anybody else remember those old man bars where the old guys would sit drinking schmapps all day? A real Detroit thing, but it keeps you warm.

By Vickie (205.188.209.38) on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 01:00 am:

I need some schnapps to knock me out and keep me asleep tonight..

By Huh (205.188.209.38) on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 01:02 am:

or nyquil, or tequila, the wind is sooooooo loud here....

Huh, what did you say? The wind is soooo loud I can't hear you..

By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 02:37 pm:

WHERE IS MIKIE??
Does he live anywhere near Santa Ana???

By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 03:16 pm:

SIS: THATS FUNNY!!!...ACTUALLY, WHEN I FIRST MOVED TO LA, I WAS WAS DOING TRAFFIC REPORTING FOR A RADIO TRAFFIC SERVICE...AND WAS SENT TO SANTA ANITA (HORSE...THATS ALL ABOUT YOU) TO COVER THE EQUESTRIAN EVENTS FOR THE 84 OLYMPICS!!!...THE ONLY THING CLOSE TO THAT ON MY MAP WAS SANTA ANA...SO I FIGURED THAT WAS WHAT THEY MEANT!!!...45 MINUTES LATER...I'M IN ORANGE COUNTY APPROACHING SANTA ANA, WHEN THEY RADIO ME WONDERING WHERE THE HELL I WAS AT!!!...I TOLD THEM THAT I WAS 5 MILES AWAY FROM SANTA ANA!!!...IMAGINE THE EGG ON MY FACE WHEN THEY TOLD ME THAT SANTA ANITA WAS IN ARCADIA IN LA COUNTY...AND I HAD DRIVEN ALMOST AN HOUR IN THE WRONG DIRECTION!!!...AND MY JOB WAS TO BROADCAST TO PEOPLE HOW TO GET WHERE THEY WERE GOING!!!...SANTA ANA WINDS ACTUALLY REFER TO THE MOVEMENT OF THE WIND OFF THE OCEAN WHICH BLOWS INLAND...BOUNCES OFF THE INLAND MOUNTAINS...PICKS UP SPEED...AND BLASTS THIS WARM FEROCIOUS WIND BACK TOWADS THE OCEAN LEAVING POOR SOULS LIKE VICKIE IN IT'S WAKE!!!...HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND!!!...AS FOR MIKIE...WE'RE ALL LOOKING FOR HIM!!!...STU

By Vickie (64.236.243.31) on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 03:22 pm:

Stu - LOL

By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 03:46 pm:

LOL, I thought that was a county in the area near LA. (LOL) I was worried that he was in trouble Thanks.

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Tuesday, January 07, 2003 - 04:16 pm:

OR PERHAPS A BAR IN HOLLYWOOD!!!...

By Horse (159.53.238.243) on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 12:44 pm:

Stu,

It's the vicious cycle starting all over again. I played a benifit for the fire fighters after the hugh Calabasas/Malibu fires in the early 90's. What a great feeling I received from trying to give back something to those guys that gave it all they had day after day. I still have a LODI Fire Dept. tee shirt which they presented me with after the show. I wouldn't trade it for the world. I hope things work out with this fire. I noticed your bro lives out that way. Hope all is well with him.

Horse

By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 01:28 pm:

THANKS HORSE: WE DID GET A LITTLE DOUSING OF RAIN OVERNIGHT, AND THE WINDS HAVE SUBSTANTIALLY DIED DOWN, SO THE FIRE APPEARS PRETTY WELL UNDER CONTROL!!!...I SPOKE TO MY BROTHER YESTERDAY OR THE DAY BEFORE, AND HE DIDN'T SEEM TOO CONCERNED!!!...I ALSO WORK OUT THAT WAY, BUT NO PROBLEMS IN SIGHT!!!...HAVING LIVED OUT HERE...YOU KNOW HOW THOSE FIRES CAN TAKE ON A LIFE OF THEIR OWN...BUT CONDITIONS ARE DEFINITLY IMPROVING!!!...TEMPERATURES ARE DROPPING A BIT...BUT I GUESS THE HIGH 60'S WILL BE OK FOR MY NEXT THREE DAYS OFF STARTING ON FRIDAY!!!...NOTE TO MEL: HEY...THOSE BUNKERS ARE CERTAINLY PREFERABLE TO THE DEEP ROUGH...ERRRR... RUFFIN!!!...STU

By Nancy (24.101.72.243) on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 02:56 pm:

Hey Stu
weather update from Toronto, finally a day with no snowstorms, and the cold snap seems to have disappeared everyone up here including yours truly is sick with the flu, how about sending some of that LA sunshine up this way

By STUBASS (205.188.209.38) on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 03:02 pm:

OK NANCY: YOU'VE GOT IT!!!...JUST DON'T SEND THAT FLU BUG DOWN HERE...I FORGOT TO GET THE SHOT THIS YEAR AND MY FINGERS ARE CROSSED!!!...FEEL BETTER...STU

By Ritchie (62.254.0.7) on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 03:20 pm:

Update from this side of the pond... we still have snow on the ground, and the local council say they won't grit the roads until it's "serious". (So driving on ice is humorous..?) This morning, I was setting off in the car and two penguins flagged me down, and asked for a lift to the North Pole. They said they were too cold to stay in Lincoln.

By R&B (138.238.41.118) on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 10:35 am:

HEY STU,YOU TRYIN TO MAKE ME CRY OR WHAT,IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY DREAM TO SEE CA.AND THERE YOU ARE SITTING OUTTHERE SOAKING UP THE SUNSHINE THAT I SHOULD BE GETTING,UNFAIR,UNFAIR,UNFAIR!!!!BUT ON A SERIOUS NOTE HAVE A GREAT TIME AND GET SOME SUN FOR ME TOO.YOUR PAL R&B.

By john dixon (63.101.17.207) on Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 10:59 am:

we may not be the glam land of hope and dreams but don't write off the distaff side of the coast! It's a beautiful sunny day in Charleston, SC, with highs near 70 degrees--a short sleeve shirt day!

By Nancy (66.185.85.72) on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 07:24 am:

Hey Stu:
With all that sunshine and warmth down there it would be impossible for it to survive

By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 01:33 pm:

NANCY: SORRY TO INFORM YOU...BUT WE DON'T LIVE IN AN "AUTOCLAVE" DOWN HERE...GERMS DO IN FACT SPREAD!!!...IF IT MAKES ANY OF YOU FEEL BETTER...IT'S CLOUDY TODAY AND TEMPERATURES ARE ON THE COOL SIDE...ABOUT 55-60!!!...BUT MORE SUNSHINE IN THE FORCAST FOR TOMORROW AND TEMPS SHOULD GET UP INTO THE 60'S...AND STU SHOULD GET OUT TO THE GOLF COURSE!!!...STU

By Nancy (24.101.72.243) on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 11:04 pm:

I apologize Stu I only met it as a joke

By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 11:31 pm:

JUST HAVING SOME FUN NANCY!!!...ACTUALLY, THE WAY I FIGURE IT!!!...HAVE YOU EVER SEEN MEAT LEFT OUT IN THE SUN FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS, VERSUS A FRESHLY FRESHLY THAWED STEAK???...I THINK THAT COLD WEATHER PEOPLE ACTUALLY PRESERVE BETTER...AS LONG AS THEY DON'T SUFFER A HEART ATTACK SHOVELING SNOW!!!...AND PLEASE FORGIVE MY DAHMERESQUE EXAMPLE!!!,,,I KNOW IT'S IN BAD TASTE!!!... UGHRRRR...I GIVE UP...STU

By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 11:37 pm:

OFF TO THE BAR AFTER *THAT* LAST POST!!!...STU

By Nancy (24.101.72.243) on Friday, January 10, 2003 - 11:38 pm:

No problem , I am glad it is all sorted, and Stu thanks for starting the ball rolling on trying to get the Funk Brothers that Life time Achievement award. I used to work for a local Politician up here before I started to teach and as he said it just takes "ONE VOICE TO GET THE BALL ROLLING" I know it sound hokey but thanks .

By Jay (24.55.210.61) on Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 05:10 am:

On the way to work today in LA, I clicked on the button that said external temp. At 2PM it was 88 degrees!!

Now that is hot... The same kind of hot as on Jan17 1994... the day of the Northridge earthquake.
Hmm...

By Lynn Bruce (65.60.200.153) on Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 09:55 am:

I've been through two 6.2 earthquakes in Greece,and I hope to God I never go through another one!!
The temp in Detroit this fine, sunny day in Detroit is 7 degrees,with a wind chill of two below.
I think the earth is to frozen here for earthquakes right now,but we do have to worry about our faces freezing ,cracking, and falling off.
You know it's cold when the snot freezes before you can wipe your nose.
Is that graphic enough for you Southern calif. sissy-pants? Don't forget your sun-screen out on the courses today.
Am I envious? You bet your ass! Now's when that heated seat option in my car is really worth it,speaking of frozen asses.Or was I speaking of myself for not getting out of Dodge till the spring thaw.
Lynn(Icicle nose)

By Allen (24.165.80.12) on Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 10:47 am:

I did my share and a few other peoples, of cold weather living. Plus I had Detroit Free Press routes at 4:30am in the winters. Froze my ass off on Schoolcraft. One time so bad, my hands stayed in the shape of handle bars till my mom thawed em out.

OUCH!!!!

Allen

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 10:51 am:

Geeze Lynn that sounds rough. Yesterday my good friend Darlene ( who happens to be a Detroiter ) went down to the beach to watch the sunset. We commnted on how different it was out here as the soft 70 degree ocean breeze danced around us and the sky lit up in varying shades of reds and crimsons.

By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 11:06 am:

AND JUST THINK GUYS...ONE WARDROBE BASICALLY RUNS YOU THROUGH THE ENTIRE YEAR!!!...SORRY ABOUT YOUR SUB-FREEZING TEMPS BACK THERE AS WELL AS YOUR "FROZEN ASSETS" LYNN, AS WELL AS YOUR HANDLEBARS...ER...HANDS... ALLEN!!!...RALPH IS RIGHT...THE SUNSETS HAVE BEEN AWESOME THE PAST FEW DAYS...AND THE MOON FULL ON CLEAR EVENINGS!!!...JAY: ENOUGH WITH THE (EQ) STUFF...LETS JUST PRETEND THAT WE HAVE OUR OWN LITTLE SUNNY AND WARM CORNER OF THE EARTH GOING ON HERE...AND IF WE'RE GOOD AND REAL QUIET...PERHAPS THE (EQ) GODS WON'T NOTICE US!!!...NANCY: THANKS FOR YOUR KIND WORDS, AND STAY WARM UP THERE!!!...STU

By Lynn Bruce (65.60.200.153) on Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 02:05 pm:

OK you guys,reading your statements I see I'm going to have to dig out my vomit bucket.Cold weather is nice if your in the upper penninsula of Michigan,but not so nice in the Detroit area.
Earthquakes and all,this time of the year Southern Cal. sounds like a nice place to be.
After going thru some horrible things in earthquakes, I tended to freeze when ever a truck would rumble by,or someone worked near with a jack-hammer.
Let see, I could freeze for a moment under a palm tree, or freeze my ass off here for the next two or three months.Hmmm???

By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 04:05 pm:

I had to come into this thread because of the warm weather. I only have two things to post.
1. Hello Mikie whereever you are.

2. RIP David Ruffin on this day which would have been your birthday. (I thought I would sneak this into this thread since it's warm.)

By Nancy (24.101.72.243) on Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 05:26 pm:

Checking in from Toronto, it is minus 3o degrees celsius and that is not with the windchill so it is even colder, so cold that we were not allowed to take the kids out at school yesterday, I could really go for some warm sunshine about now

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 05:36 pm:

LYNN, NANCY, AND SIS: SORRY TO REPORT...BUT AT 2:30 PM PST; THE TEMPERATURE HERE IN THOUSAND OAKS IS RAPIDLY APPROACHING 90 DEGREES!!!...SORRY YOU CAN'T BE HERE WHILE THE GROUND IS STILL!!!...STU

By Allen (24.165.80.12) on Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 05:40 pm:

That's cold Stu,

: )

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 05:41 pm:

NOT SO ALLEN: ACTUALLY...IT'S QUITE WARM!!!...STU

By Vickie (152.163.188.68) on Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 05:46 pm:

I was napping and had to get up to turn on the AC...
It's hot here in The Valley...

Vickie

By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 05:47 pm:

LOL - Just rub it in Stu.

By Allen (24.165.80.12) on Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 05:52 pm:

Vickie, where in the valley? I'm in Granada Hills.

By Vickie (152.163.188.68) on Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 05:58 pm:

Hey Allen,

Tarzana/Reseda
we're almost neighbors...

V.

By Vickie (152.163.188.68) on Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 06:05 pm:

yeah...where is Mikie?

By Lynn Bruce (65.60.200.153) on Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 06:07 pm:

More whale blubber anyone? Now where did I put those damn mukluks at. Anyone know when the cariboo migration begins?
I can see the president{who didn't really win) coming to Detroit and stating;"What global warming"

By dvdmike (12.84.10.236) on Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 06:08 pm:

Here in Chicago, it's snowing with temps in the low 20s. I got invited to the annual Chicago Cubs convention today, but I didn't feel like coming back out.

By Nancy (24.101.72.243) on Saturday, January 18, 2003 - 11:16 pm:

Checking back in from Toronto, just to let you guys know that by Thursday the temperature supposed to be minus 34 degrees before it starts to warm up, so it looks like we will be stuck in doors with 12 pre-schoolers at the daycare this week lots of fun. I agree with you Lynn what global warming???

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 01:06 pm:

NANCY: IF YOU CHECK...I BELIEVE YOU WILL FIND THAT "GLOBAL WARMING" AND THE DEPLETION OF THE OZONE LAYER ACCELERATED DURING THE DECADE OF THE 60'S!!!...IS IT MORE THAN JUST COINCIDENECE THAT THIS PHENOMONON OCCURED DURING THE SAME DECADE THAT THE "FUNK BROTHERS" WERE TURNING OUT SMOKIN TRACK AFTER SMOKIN TRACK OVER AT HITSVILLE!!!...COULD IT BE POSSIBLE THAT THE "GLOBAL WARMING" TREND COULD BE TRACED BACK TO THE "FUNKS" AND ALL THE SMOKE THEY LAID INTO THE ATMOSPHERE???...JUST WONDERING!!!...STU

By Nancy (24.101.72.243) on Sunday, January 19, 2003 - 02:49 pm:

Hey Stu: very interesting thought, with all the tracks that they turned out no wonder things got a little hot out.

By thecount (65.60.201.174) on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 09:56 am:

HEY STUBASS,man you got that right about the one wardrobe all year.Especially the women,no matter if it's in the malls or on the beach's,
two bandaids and a cork.
"COUNT"

By douglasm (68.113.15.28) on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 10:55 am:

I work in an all year tourist area, and am doing a scientific study on...well, which looks more attractive, two bandaids and a cork, or a tight fitting ski bunny outfit?

By STUBASS (152.163.188.68) on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 11:42 am:

TWO BANDAIDS AND A CORK...TWO BANDAIDS AND A CORK!!!...JUST TRYING TO GRASP THE CONCEPT COUNT!!!...ARE WE TALKING "BARBIE DOLLS" HERE???...IF SO...WHAT IS "KEN" WEARING...TWO RUBBER BANDS AND A PEANUT SHELL???...OK...NOW I GET IT!!!...STU

By STUBASS (205.188.209.38) on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 01:21 pm:

PS...IT'S BAAAAAAACK...TEMPERATURES WELL INTO THE 70'S WITH SUNNY SKIES...HELL, EVEN MY DOG DOESN'T QUITE KNOW WHAT TO MAKE OF IT!!!...JUST SO YOU DON'T ALL THINK THAT THIS IS A TYPICAL WINTER... OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEARLY 20 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN OUT HERE!!!...I CAN CLEARLY REMEMBER WINTERS...PARTICULARLY STARTING AT ABOUT THIS TIME IN JANUARY, WHERE THE COLD AND BLUSTERY TEMPERATURES WERE ONLY OVERSHADOWED BY DAYS ON END OF POURING RAIN...REMEMBER THE SONG..."IT NEVER RAINS IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA"???...THE NEXT LINE IS..."IT POURS"!!!...PERHAPS THAT SONG BELONGS ON THE EERRRRRG THREAD!!!...ANYWAYS, I CAN REMEMBER ATTEMPTING TO DRIVE THROUGH LAUREL CANYON WITH THREE FOOT RAGING FLOODS POURING OUT OF THE CANYONS...MANHOLE COVERS FLOATING RIGHT PAST THE DOOR OF MY CAR!!!...WHEN I WAS RUNNING THE HONDA-ACURA DEALERSHIP IN BEVERLY HILLS...ONE YEAR WE GOT OVER 50 TOTALLY FLOODED CARS INTO OUR SERVICE DEPARTMENT IN A THREE DAY PERIOD!!!...SO, HEY GUYS...PLEASE UNDERSTAND AND BE HAPPY FOR US OUT HERE, AS YOU CONTINUE TO FREEZE YOUR ASSETS OFF THROUGHOUT MOST OF THE REST OF THE WORLD!!!... HECK...WE DON'T EVEN HAVE "CONEY ISLAND" HOT DOGS OUT HERE!!...STU

By douglasm (68.113.15.28) on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 01:31 pm:

Ah, but you have eggplant pizzas. "Pepperoni? What's that?" Excuse me, I've got to get the snow shovel out.

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 01:38 pm:

And damned if I can get e REAL corned beef sandwich here in Monterey.

By Allen (24.165.80.12) on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 01:47 pm:

Ralph, I bet you miss Esquire, huh?

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 01:50 pm:

Allen,
What'e Esquire? A deli?

By Allen (24.165.80.12) on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 01:58 pm:

Yep, It was on Dexter. Around the corner from Golden World/Motown Studio B.

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 02:03 pm:

Allen,
I don't remember that one, but if it is a typical Detroit deli then I miss it also. I remember the Stage Deli and Lou's. Also one down from the Donovan Building I used to frequent on a regular basis.

Now don't get me started on the cannoli out here.

By STUBASS (205.188.209.38) on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 02:31 pm:

AHHH: THE ESQUIRE DELI...BIG OL CORNED BEEF SANDWITCHES ON AN ONION ROLL!!!...ALSO..."MODERN DELI"...FENKELL NEAR LIVERNOIS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE ORIGINAL HONEY BAKED HAM"...RALPH...YOU'VE GOT TO REMEMBER THAT ONE!!!...ALSO "FREDSONS"..."DARBYS"..."BILLY'S" ON LIVERNOIS NEAR 7 MILE!!!...OUT HERE, WE'VE GOT" NATE & AL'S" IN BEVERLY HILLS...ONLY PROBLEM...LAST TIME I ATE THERE, I HAD TO CHECK OUT RE-FI RATES TO AFFORD ONE OF THEIR SANDWITCHES...ALSO "ARTS" IN STUDIO CITY!!!...

By STUBASS (205.188.209.38) on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 02:36 pm:

PS..."JERRYS FAMOUS DELI" IS PROBABLY THE MOST WELL KNOWN OUT HERE...BUT I NEVER FIGURED THAT IT WAS WORTH THE "GAGGING" ON THEIR DRECK, JUST TO SEE A FEW CELEBRITIES THAT COME WALKING THROUGH THE DOOR!!!...STU

By Blondie (64.236.243.31) on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 02:41 pm:

Fromans Deli in Encino is a close runner up to Jerry's..


I am off to make some spagetti and cannolis to send to my friend Ralph..
sounds like he misses good Italian cooking

Blondie

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 02:53 pm:

Stu,
Yeah...Modern...and Darbys....I have a question for a fellow Californian. If so many of us are trasplanted from the East Coast, how come the cuisine didn't follow?
I did go to a place in Woodland Hills to meet Harry Balk a few years back. I think it was called Nates. Harry and John Brooks and I had a great lunch that day boy.

Blondie,
Bless you sweetheart. you're touching my heart here.

By thecount (65.60.201.174) on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 03:18 pm:

HEY (WHYO)RALPH,last year we were in woodland hills doing a FO.MO.CO. commercial and went with the cast and crew to MILANO'S,it was close to MAMA'S cooking,not bad at all.They were on OXNARD
STREET I think."COUNT"

By Gary Rosen (12.234.25.217) on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 03:28 pm:

I'm in NorCal not far from Ralph and can confirm that it is deli hell - you cannot beg, borrow or steal a good sandwich. There are some good Italian restaurants but they are more expensive and not "home style".

Stu, didn't there used to be a place in LA/Hollywood called Cantor's that had good sandwiches?

By Vickie (64.236.243.31) on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 03:39 pm:

oh Yeah Gary

Cantor's- YUMMY!
it's still there.

By larry (216.23.183.2) on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 03:40 pm:

Gary,

Cantors is a 7x24 deli on Fairfax. It's still hoppin', but, the Matza Brei is better than the corned beef. Local fave of mine is Toi Thai on Sunset; great food open til 4am.

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 03:59 pm:

OK GUYS...SORRY TO BURST YOUR BUBBLE ON "CANTORS"...BUT JUST ASK MY BROTHER BRUCE ABOUT THAT PLACE AND THEIR "PET FRIENDLY" POLICY!!! BY THAT I MEAN THE FOOT LONG RAT THAT RAN UNDER HIS TABLE JUST AS HE WAS ABOUT TO BITE INTO ONE OF THEIR DELECTABLE CORNED BEEF SANDWITCHES!!!...SORRY IF I GROSSED ANYBODY OUT WITH THAT ONE!!!...STU

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 04:01 pm:

PS TO RALPH...I WAS INFORMED BY A VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE RESTAURANTEER FROM NEW YOUK THAT IT'S "ALL IN THE WATER" THEY COOK WITH OUT HERE!!!...DOESN'T COMPARE WITH THE WATER BACK EAST!!!...STU

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 04:16 pm:

Stu,
AAH....now I know. Well why can't they ship out some damn water then. Gary Rosin nailed it. Deli Hell! When I first moved out here I went into a local restaurant for lunch and noticed corn beef sandwich on the menu. YUM! I ordered it. Soon the waitress brought me this thin little sandwhich on whole wheat. ( Gary is starting to smile knowingly ) I said..." Oh miss there must be some mistake. I ordered the corned beef ". She told me that is what it was And what "IT" was, was one piece of some sort of processed corned beef about a quarter of an inch thick, that was FRIED on a %#%&^%$ Grill and shoved between two pieces of mother%$%&% whole wheat bread. I'm sure at that exact moment that the realization of the absurdity of this hit me, every decent food lovng Jew in the U.S. shuddered involintarily and uttered an " Oy Vey " and wondered what just went through them.

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 04:31 pm:

RALPH...I'LL BET THAT WHOLE WHEAT BREAD WAS SMOTHERED IN MAYO AS WELL!!!...STU

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 04:42 pm:

A lunch to behold Stu my man.

By Blondie (64.236.243.31) on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 04:49 pm:

Mulberry Street Pizza has the water shipped in from the east coast for the pizza crust - so I heard from a reliable source that knew Cathy Moriarty who owns Mulberry Street Pizzaria on Ventura Blvd. in Encino

Blondie

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 04:59 pm:

Wow Blondie. And I thought I was joking.

By Lynn Bruce (65.60.200.153) on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 05:13 pm:

Ralph,man that was a funny story. I can just picture your pissoffisness.
Once when I was on the road in Louisiana,we stopped at this little place in the country. I asked where the mens room was and they said thru the kitchen. It was an outhouse and someone was in it. I waited in the kitchen and out comes this guy straight back to the kitchen and digs his hands into the meatloaf mixture and starts mixing. We paid for our cokes and got the hell out.

By dvdmike (12.84.11.115) on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 05:34 pm:

I remember going to a restaurant in Los Alamitos called The Claim Jumper. Have any of you Californians ever heard of it or know if it's still open? Speaking of pizza, everybody knows Chicago has the best outside of Italy. Places like Giordano's, Gino's East, Italian Fiesta, Rinaldi's and Edwardo's. During my time in L.A. in the mid-to-late eighties, I tried pizza Califoria style, but it wasn't too great. California Pizza Kitchen, New York Pizza Express on Hollywood & Vine and Spago's on Sunset & Horn ($30 for a pizza?). Putting pineapples and papaya on a pizza is absolutely sacreligeous.

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Tuesday, January 21, 2003 - 05:43 pm:

DVD: THEY HAVE A "CLAIM JUMPER" RIGHT NEAR MY HOUSE IN STEVENSON RANCH!!!...HUGE PORTIONS...AND IT IS NOW A LARGE CHAIN!!!...YOU CAN EVEN BUY SOME OF THEIR STUFF IN THE FROZEN FOOD DEPT. AT THE SUPERMARKET!!!...IF ANYONE IS IN THE VALENCIA AREA...TRY TOMASSO'S PIZZA...AWESOME...AND THESE LITTLE GARLIC ROLLS THEY THROW IN...THE BEST FORM OF "BIRTH CONTROL" ON THE MARKET!!!...STU

By heartattack candidate douglasm (68.113.15.28) on Wednesday, January 22, 2003 - 11:36 am:

6" of snow last night, 6 more coming today. Stubass, I don't know if i should feel sorry for you because you're missing the beauty of it, or envious because you don't have to shovel it.
Hope the snowblower starts.

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Wednesday, January 22, 2003 - 11:57 am:

YOU THINK YOU'VE GOT IT BAD DOUG!!!...WE'VE GOT SOME OF THOSE DAMN CLOUDS IN THE SKY HERE IN L.A.!!!...NOW THATS A BUMMER!!!...STU

By Sue (63.85.105.20) on Wednesday, January 22, 2003 - 12:00 pm:

Doug,
It's too cold to snow in Detroit ...but we're hardy, I love seeing everybody in ugly hats and their biggest coats -- all Detroiters now look like, with our wool caps pulled down to our noses.

Plus someone said, the pickpockets are off the streets ...LOL

By douglasm (68.113.15.28) on Wednesday, January 22, 2003 - 12:12 pm:

Out here, like Detroit, we put on our boots and soldier on. Not enough snow to keep me from the damn dentist. If this were Seattle, it would stop 'em for 6 weeks. The blower started, by the way.

By Allen (24.165.80.12) on Wednesday, January 22, 2003 - 12:47 pm:

I just had a Detroit flashback. Inevitably every winter, someone exiting the bus would take that first step onto the pavement and slip and fall. Ala Buster Keaton. With their feet flying up in the air, eventually landing on their rear. While all the people who watched this happen, try to hold in the most spontaneous type of laughter I know.

That�s Classic Detroit!

Allen

By Allen (24.165.80.12) on Wednesday, January 22, 2003 - 12:52 pm:

I could really use some Murder Burgers about now. aka...White Castles. ... aka sliders. aka "them funky little hambugers".

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Wednesday, January 22, 2003 - 12:53 pm:

OR THAT CLASSIC SCENE IN "GROUNDHOG DAY" ALLEN!!!...MISSING THE CURB AND STEPPING SMACK INTO A FOOT OF SLUSHY WATER THAT YOU THOUGHT WAS ONLY AN INCH OR TWO DEEP!!!...STU

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Wednesday, January 22, 2003 - 12:56 pm:

ALLEN: "MURDER BURGERS" AND "MANSLAUGHTER MALTS"...WHAT A CULINARY COMBO!!!...PS...CHECK THE FROZEN FOOD CASE AT YOUR LOCAL SUPERMARKET...YOU'RE LIKELY TO FIND EM!!!...STU...PS...BE SURE TO MICROWAVE THEM FIRST...OR YOU WILL BE PAYING A VISIT TO THE DENTIST!!!

By Allen (24.165.80.12) on Wednesday, January 22, 2003 - 01:02 pm:

STU,
I've tried those.It just ain't the same without them funky diced up little mystery morstles maquerading as onions.

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Wednesday, January 22, 2003 - 01:06 pm:

HEY DOES ANYONE REMEMBER THE OLD "TOP HAT" 12-CENT BURGERS LIKE THE WHITE CASTLES!!!...THE HAD A FEW TOP HATS ALONG EIGHT MILE ROAD...AND USED THAT RED CATSUP SQUEEZE CONTAINER WITH A YELLOW CAP...THE OLD CATSUP-MUSTARD SHAKE IT UP COMBO!!!...I ACTUALLY LIKED THE "TOP HATS" BETTER THAN WHITE CASTLE...10 FOR A DOLLAR!!!...STU

By douglasm (68.113.15.28) on Wednesday, January 22, 2003 - 01:13 pm:

Does the one still exist on Livernois and 8 Mile?

By Allen (24.165.80.12) on Wednesday, January 22, 2003 - 01:14 pm:

I remember Top Hat very well. Colors were red and white, instead of the castle's blue and white. They were the more sophisticated version of muder burgers.

"You'd like to have a side order of class with your death on a bun sir?"

By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Wednesday, January 22, 2003 - 01:51 pm:

There was a Top Hat also on Puritan, corner of James Cousin's Service Drive.

By Lynn Bruce (65.60.200.153) on Wednesday, January 22, 2003 - 05:01 pm:

There was a Top Hat on Van Born rd. and Telegraph in Taylor,Michigan that used to get a lot of us munchie crazed musicians about 2:30 or 3 a.m.. Between those places and the Mexican resturants,the musicians of Detroit spent a lot of time after the bars closed. Anybody remember when the Mexican Village on Bagley and the Greecian Gardens in Greek-town were the places to go after the gigs?

By Ralph (209.240.198.62) on Wednesday, January 22, 2003 - 05:55 pm:

Lynn,
Every once in a while I would take myself down to the Grecian Gardens after the gig. I'd get a plate of lamb chops ( about 6 or 7 thin ones to a plate...absolutely delicious ) and a Greek salad ( the greatest ) and enjoy myself watching the wiseguys coming in with their arm candy. What a trip.

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Wednesday, January 22, 2003 - 06:02 pm:

DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER THE BIG POLICE RAID AT THE GRECIAN GARDENS WHERE THEY GOT THE LIST OF COPS ON THE TAKE...AND NEXT THING...THE DETROIT WISE GUYS SHOW UP ON THE FBI ORGANIZED CRIME LIST???...I THINK IT WAS ABOUT IN 1962!!!...STU

By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Wednesday, January 22, 2003 - 06:05 pm:

Lynn - I still try to get to that area when I can to eat some of that delicious Mexican food. The best in the City.

What about the Chinese restaurant, I think it was on Baltimore near Woodward. Extremely popular and always crowded. I can't think of the name of it. The guy also opened up a restaurant on 8 mile. Someone accused him of having a cat farm, and his business went down hill.

By Lynn Bruce (65.60.200.153) on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 08:20 am:

Sis,was that Stanleys Manna Cafe or resturant? I remember a big chinese resturant on the east side of Woodward down a side street that was really nice,everyone even dressed sharp in there.

We have a HIGH of 8 degrees in Detroit today with wind-chills of below twenty degrees.

Remember the Laborfest with 90 and 95 degrees in Sept.? They'll be back this El-Nino summer!!!
Talk about temperature extremes!!!

By Larry (12.141.160.25) on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 11:33 am:

Lynn,

Top Hat brings back memories. I never told this story to anyone, but, it must have been the seed that put me on a track toward Frederick Douglas, Booker T. Washington, W. E. B. Du Bois and Sydney Poitier.

I was 4 years old. My father took me to Top Hat. It was the first time I saw a black man. I was amazed and intrigued and walked up to him. He looked down at me and I said "Hi Mr. Chocolate Man"! Ahh the innocence of children.

He and my Pop proceeded to laugh and chat. Great memory.

By SisDetroit (68.42.209.170) on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 11:57 am:

Lynn - You are right, that was Stanleys, it was on either Baltimore, or Milwaukee between Woodward and John R.

Larry - That was funny. When I first saw a white person, I was about four years old. They were on an army base not far from where I lived. As I looked across the field I could see all those people who were white. But I never asked my parents about them. I just assumed they lived in another world.

By STUBASS (64.12.97.7) on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 08:33 pm:

WORLDWIDE FRIENDS: JUST HOME FROM THE GOLF COURSE WHERE IT WAS ABOUT 76 -78 DEGREES IN FILLMORE,CA...SUNNY...COULDA BEEN WEARING SHORTS...BUT I THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT JOE TEX SAID!!!...SHOT AN 84...BUT I NEED TO GET MY GAME INTO THE 70'S!!!...HERE IN CALIFORNIA...I CAN PRACTICE AND PLAY YEAR ROUND...SO WHO KNOWS!!!...GOT INTO A PISSIN MATCH WITH MY GOLF BUDDY IN THE CAR...WHEN HE SAID THAT CHET ATKINS WAS THE "GREATEST GUITARIST" OF ALL TIME!!!...OK...TOUGH ONE TO ARGUE,,,DEPENDING ON YOUR GENRE OF PREFERENCE (THIS GUY PRODUCED COUNTRY MUSIC ACTS IN SEATTLE FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS)...BUT WHEN HE THREW IN ROY CLARKS NAME...I WENT "NUTS"!!!...ANYWAY...I MUST HAVE UNNERVED HIM...BECAUSE I TOOK ABOUT 70 BUCKS OFF HIM AT THE GOLF COURSE!!!...ANOTHER BEAUTIFUL SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA DAY!!!...STU

By Sue (205.188.209.38) on Thursday, January 23, 2003 - 08:41 pm:

The old original Hunter House in Birmingham is still there on Woodward, in the white tile building that's an exact replica of the "White Castle/Top Hat" look ...they haven't changed one thing in that building.

Expatriate Detroiters may not know; Hunter House opened a downtown Detroit location that is much chic-er, has a liquor license but offers the tiny burgers in the same old black-and-white bag.

By thecount (65.60.201.174) on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 04:44 pm:

There was also a TOP HAT at TELEGRAPH and WEST CHICAGO.We used to hang out across the stree at E.J.KORVETTES on SAT.nites and street race down Telegraph,to many drag racing tickets to buy a BIG BOY or DALY BURGER,back then,62--65 a drag race ticket was $100.00,so we would run across TELEGRAPH and load up on 10 in a bag for a buck at TOP HATS.I almost s--t when I first seen them weigh the french fries at top hats,they would even remove one if it were over weight.But,I prefered T.P. over W.C.My glove box was so full of tickets,once I asked the cop for a folder after issuing me the ticket.Then I sped off and he had the nerve to try to catch me."COUNT"

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 05:15 pm:

HEY ALL: IT'S A BEAUTIFUL 82 RIGHT NOW IN THOUSAND OAKS...2:15 PM PST!!!...EAT YOUR HEARTS OUT...OR "YOU CAN TAKE A TRAIN"...AND GET OUT OF THAT "SEVEN ROOMS OF GLOOM"!!!...STU

By R&B (138.238.41.118) on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 05:28 pm:

YEAH STU,JUST KEEP RUBBIN IT IN BUT WE'LL SEE WHO HAS THE LAST LAUGH WHEN CA.FALLS INTO THE SEA,SOMETHING ABOUT THE FAULTLINE...GOT CHA!!BESIDES,WHO NEEDS PALMTREES WHEN THEY CAN GO OUTSIDE AND HANG WITH THE PENQUINS{THE BIRDS,NOT THE SINGING GROUP}AND YOU KNOW THEY'RE ALWAYS DRESSED FOR DINNER!!!

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 06:00 pm:

R&B: WHEN WE FALL INTO THE SEA...I'LL HAVE MY OWN ISLAND...AND YOU'LL HAVE BEACHFRONT PROPERTY!!!...SOUNDS LIKE A "DOUBLE UPGRADE"!!!...STU

By Nancy (66.185.85.72) on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 06:25 pm:

Checking in from the great white north, we finally warmed up to a tropical 8 below zero. I am up for a job in Bermuda if i get it I am gone

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 06:31 pm:

NANCY: TROPICAL???...OR DID YOU MEAN *TOPICAL*???...BERMUDA???...IS THAT WHERE THEY INVENTED THOSE SHORTS???...SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA!!!...GOOD LUCK!!!...YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO THAW OUT IN A WEEK OR TWO!!!...STU

By Nancy (66.185.85.72) on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 07:38 pm:

Stu I met tropical !!!!!!compared to what it has been like the past two weeks it was very tropical
today
Thanks for the good wishes re Bermuda, it is a good opportunity the problem is money , I am still negotiateing with them

By Allen (24.165.80.12) on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 04:49 am:

STU, Stop teasing them before we fall off...
you know that kind of stuff always happens to the taunter sp.

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 11:53 am:

BUT ALLEN: JUST LOOK OUTSIDE...HOW CAN I RESIST???...STU

By Bob Olhsson (68.32.96.67) on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 02:52 pm:

One of our biggest surprises about Nashville was the high quality of the meat and chicken compared to San Francisco. There isn't much in the way of an Italian or Jewish deli but the chicken, pork and beef is pure heaven.

By The English Bull Dog (195.219.7.2) on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 03:17 pm:

Hey Stu,
I hope your stuck in a bunker,
in a rain storm.
Come and visit dear old blighty mate,
we'll knock that fine summery smirk from ya buddy.
The English BULL DOG
OF OLD LONDINIUM TOWN.
Were singin'in the rain!!!!!!!

By STUBASS (206.135.204.2) on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 03:25 pm:

LIKE I'VE SAID BEFORE MEL...BUNKERS ARE NOT ALL BAD...EXCEPT MAYBE THOSE "POT BUNKERS" ON THE ROAD HOLE AT OLD ST. ANDREWS!!!...AS FOR RAIN...HAVEN'T SEEN THAT STUFF FOR WEEKS!!!...JUST SUNNY SKIES AND TEMPS UP AROUND 73 RIGHT NOW!!!...AS FOR THAT SMIRK OF MINE...I THINK IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THOSE "POT BUNKERS"...YOUR BUDDY...STU

By MEL&THEN SOME (195.219.7.2) on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 03:28 pm:

Now wait a minute Stu,
how the hell did you know that was me?
you old son of a gun.
check your e.mail matey.
Mel(well sussed).

By douglasm (68.113.15.28) on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 04:47 pm:

Stu...
A song has come to mind

Day after day
More people come to LA
susshhhh..better not tell 'em
The whole things slippin' away

Where will we go
When there's no San Diego
Better get ready
To tie up the boat In Idaho.

That's why I keep the Cascades between me and the ocean.
(45 and sunny in Central Washington. I may get the motorcycle out)

By douglasm (68.113.15.28) on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 12:40 pm:

Stu....
....we actually agreed on something (Nancy's thread)!!
By the way, I did get the bike out. It's snowing now. My fault.

By STUBASS (64.12.97.7) on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 09:30 pm:

HEY DOUG: I DIDN'T KNOW WE *DISAGREED* ABOUT ANYTHING!!!...JUST BECAUSE I SAID THAT IT WASN'T NICE TO TRIP OLD LADIES, AND YOU THOUGHT IT WAS QUITE THE KICK...I'M ACTUALLY COMING AROUND TO YOUR WAY OF THINKING ON THAT!!!...BUT THE ONLY BIKE THAT I'M RIDING IN 45 DEGREE TEMPERATURES IS A STATIONARY ONE AT THE GYM...INDOORS!!!...BY THE WAY ALL...IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL AND SUNNY 80 DEGREES ON THE GOLF COURSE IN SYLMAR TODAY...AND EVEN THOUGH MY GAME STUNK...IT WAS BETTER THAN THAWING OUT FREEZING PIPES...OR WORKING FOR THAT MATTER!!!...MORE WARM TEMPS IN STORE, AND IT'S BACK TO THE GOLF COURSE TOMORROW!!!...STU

By dvdmike (65.208.234.61) on Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 07:08 am:

Is there still an SIR rehearsal studio on Santa Monica Blvd near the cemetary? It's been quite a while since I've been there.

By RT (209.240.198.62) on Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 09:26 am:

Moving to L.A. 2