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  mel(andthensome) (mel) 1-Arriviste Username: mel Post Number: 12 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.43.74.91 |
Over my 30 years or so of collecting many records it never ceases to amaze me the amount of detroit related 45's that have appeared over those years. 45'S recorded in detroit etc but appeared on different labels etc from other cities or whatever. I have personally a lot of 45's of this ilk so heres a few for starters and there are literally hundreds. Mighty joe young-I dont want to lose you-Jacklyn The Precisions-into my life-Atco Lollipops-I believe in love-uk Black Atlantic Act IV-Bless you-Cub Patti Jerome-no more tears/baby let me be your baby-A.Arts(duke browner) Esquires-girls in the city-Lamarr(T.Hestor/M.Terry) Sir Albert-for your love/Sir Albert-Rozan(detroit inst) Marva Whitney-saving my love for my baby-Federal Geraldine Hunt-I let myself go-Checker Eddie Wilson-just call on me(outstanding andthensome)-Tollie Lainey Allen-I just cant take it-J.W.J. Ambassadors-we got love/never get tired-Atlantic Gambrells-I'm in love again for the first time-Cub(penned I believe by the same writers of Jimmy Macks stompin' 'my world is on fire') Douglas Gibson-run for your life-TRC(another version to the superb Luther Ingrams and also by the Harrison brothers) Sean Taylor-too late to turn back now-Magic Touch(great 60's detroit) Pyramids-I'm the playboy-Cub(good detroit Correctone 60's dancer) Sylvia Thomas-at last-Bamboo(detroit ztsc) Reuben Jackson-(I can say)Baby-Wheel City Dynamic Walton-Automatic sissy-Big Hit and some more......... Willie Hatcher-head over heels-King(dancer) The Deans-no not now-Panik Sandra Richardson-Stay here with me-Inter Soul Herman Griffin-are you for me or against me-Magic Touch(detroit side with flip inst of Mel Huestons 'searchin') Theresa Lindsey-it's love/good idea-Correctone(ace double header) Eddie Hill-I cant help it-Ge Ge Herman Griffin-dreamgirl-Mercury Sam E Solo-tears keep falling-Ruby Woman-thats how it is/shock also CB Overton-Superstar lady Eddie Day-trust in me-B.B.(Detroit oldie) Geno Washington-I'll be around-Atac(Label before Mala released it) Fork in the road-cant turn around now-GM(yet another fine dancer) Jo Anne Garrett-can you deal with that-Duo Bernie Hayes-tribute to a black woman-Volt Marissa Gatti-Loves what you want-Poo Pan(stomps) Hal Trotter-think about it-Grandland(another like all above,forgotten dancer) thats just a few of the obscurer detroit related material that has at one time or another graced the turntables at various all-night venues from over the years. I have plenty more but once more I salute the superb music that has that unmistakeable detroit sound to it. detroit mel(andthensome) | ||
Robb_K (robb_k) 1-Arriviste Username: robb_k Post Number: 9 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 204.108.65.10 |
Mel-I believe the Eddie Daye record was a Washington D.C. record. Jo Ann Garrett on Duo was a Chicago record. Bamboo was a St. Louis label. ZTSC was the code for pressing in The Columbia Terre Haute, Indiana pressing plant, which serviced mainly Detroit and a much smaller percentage of Chicago (and a few other midwestern cities). I believe the mix was about 82% Detroit, 15% Chicago, and 3% other Midwest (St. Louis, Des Moines, Milwaukee, Toledo, Akron). Geno Washington, spelt with "E" was the US soldier stationed in Germany. The Gino Washington from Detroit was spelt with "I". The Ambassadors on Atlantic were a Philadelphia group. Did they sing a song by Detroit writers? Eddie Wilson was part of the L.A. Jobete (Motown) group, headed by Hal davis and Marc Gordon. I was told that even the tracks were recorded in L.A. (But, of course, it has the Motown connection). Geraldine Hunt's records were recorded in Chicago-but do have the Detroit connection, with Mike Hanks writing and/or producing. | ||
mel(andthensome) (mel) 1-Arriviste Username: mel Post Number: 13 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.43.74.91 |
Cheers Robb I thought the geraldine hunt was done the same time as her bombay recordings? The Philly Ambassadors as mentioned who cut for Arctic as far as I am aware cut recordings in detroit. Your correct in your answers but as far as I know so am I regards a detroit connection being involved somewhere down the line be it by a detroit writer/producer/singer or studio or Label or whatever. Regards the G/Washington probably a typo. The Eddie Day am not sure if this is the same Eddie Daye as you mention with an 'E' at the end of name.As the Eddie Daye and the 4 bars. This is an old 45 from years ago on the scene and have asked regards the name and label but to no avail. Anyway still say there all connected to detroit someway or another. mel | ||
Robb_K (robb_k) 1-Arriviste Username: robb_k Post Number: 10 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.81.178.132 |
I didn't know that the Ambassadors recorded Arctic records or Atlantic records in Detroit. I do remember them singing at least one, possibly two Motown (Jobete) songs on that label. If they recorded in Detroit, I'd be curious to know who produced the sessions, and who was the arranger and what session players were used, and which studio. Perhaps someone can provide that information. Yes, you are certainly correct, Mel-those records did have some connection with Detroit. You are also correct that Geraldine Hunt's Bombay recordings were made no more than several months apart from her Katron recordings. Both sessions were co-productions of Bob Catron and Mike Hanks. Hanks probably ran the sessions. The Bombays were probably mid to late 1962, and the Katron probably late 1962 or very early 1963. Also, many of the labels listed above were the original Detroit labels. | ||
Davie Gordon (davie_gordon) 1-Arriviste Username: davie_gordon Post Number: 3 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 213.18.222.34 |
Robb, The Lollipops on Atlantic seem to be a UK group unrelated to the group on Impact/VIP or any of the other groups called the Lollipops. Sean Taylor on Magic Touch is a Milwaukee artist - probably recorded in Chicago Bernie Hayes on Volt is from Chicago Eddie Wilson on Tollie is Motown writer/producer Frank Wilson. Davie | ||
Eli (phillysoulman) 1-Arriviste Username: phillysoulman Post Number: 4 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.236.62.71 |
The Ambassadors recorded some songs at Golden World with the "moonlighting" Funk Bros on hand. The Volcanos also recorded Ladies man and others there as well. Same with some Kenny Gamble's Do it baby. | ||
Robb_K (robb_k) 1-Arriviste Username: robb_k Post Number: 12 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 204.108.65.10 |
Thanks Davie. I'd been told that Eddie Wilson was Frank Wilson before, but it's nice to get confirmation, as the sound of his voice was similar to Franks, but I wasn't 100% certain. I assume then, that the Ambassadors' Detroit recordings were on Arctic, and NOT Atlantic? Is that correct? | ||
Davie Gordon (davie_gordon) 1-Arriviste Username: davie_gordon Post Number: 7 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 213.18.222.34 |
Hi Robb, the Ambassadors' Detroit tracks are on Atlantic. From memory their first two Atlantic singles were recorded in Philly (from Johnny Styles' production company) - the third was recorded in Detroit. The group signed to Arctic after the Atlantic deal expired. It looks as if all their Arctic material was recorded in Philly with Arctic's owner Jimmy Bishop in the producer's chair. | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 3-Pundit Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 40 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 151.205.185.230 |
Hey Mel! I've never heard 99% of the songs that you mentioned above. Are there any compilations that feature these songs? It would be great to hear some of these songs when trying to decide what is worthy of purchase. Juice | ||
mel(andthensome) (mel) 2-Debutant Username: mel Post Number: 23 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.153.210.178 |
Juice there will be some featured on some cds but am afraid I cant really help you as to which ones as all the above mentioned are from personal collection etc. cheers mel | ||
Kevin Goins - KevGo (kevgo) 1-Arriviste Username: kevgo Post Number: 15 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 64.115.136.66 |
Mel: The Dynamic Walton Brothers � Melvin (drums), James, Jr. (lead guitar), Clarence (rhythm guitar) and Myron (bass) - were a Detroit-based combo that was discovered by the legendary Johnnie Mae Matthews. "Automatic Sissy" was released on her Big Hit label. Kevin Goins - KevGo | ||
acooolcat (acooolcat) 2-Debutant Username: acooolcat Post Number: 18 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.200.105.225 |
There was a Detroit group called the Ambassadors that were with Johnnie Mae. They had a 45 on her Bon label - a great double sider it is too - "Power of Love" b/w "I Wonder Why." The label credits the lead singer as Ida Brenett and the disc was re-released on Johnnie Mae's Reel label. The group also had a 45 on the JR label which was arranged by Dale Warren: "It's a Lonely Town." If you look at the Johnnie Mae story here on soulfuldetroit you'll see a photo of this group. | ||
acooolcat (acooolcat) 2-Debutant Username: acooolcat Post Number: 19 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.200.105.225 |
Hi Mel The Pyramids' 45 on Cub was previously released on the Detroit based Sonbert label. The group also had a disc on the Chicago based Vee Jay label around the same time. | ||
Nikki (45rpmgal) 2-Debutant Username: 45rpmgal Post Number: 11 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.206.46.218 |
Hi Graham, You hit a "sad spot" with me above. I really miss Vern! http://members.aol.com/rnbtrai n/NEW1.htm  Nikki | ||
mel(andthensome) (mel) 2-Debutant Username: mel Post Number: 29 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.153.212.84 |
Regards my statement saying that BB Records is a detroit label is because........ also on BB Records is a 45 by the Soulset group. titled 'Mickeys funkey monkey' which is credited to Holland/Dozier/Holland. anything to add davie or Robb. I am probably mixed up as these are all old and forgotten about until I dig into my boxes etc. cheers anyway mel(in Little Walters 'crazy mixed up world' | ||
Robb_K (robb_k) 3-Pundit Username: robb_k Post Number: 33 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.81.197.33 |
Sorry Mel, I DID read the Eddie Day as "Eddie Daye". Another group singing a Jobete song is no more likely to be from Detroit than any other city, but I seem to remember B.B. records being from Detroit (but not completely sure). So, you may well be correct that the Eddie Day is from Detroit. | ||
Davie Gordon (davie_gordon) 2-Debutant Username: davie_gordon Post Number: 18 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 213.18.222.34 |
Hi Mel, I'm pretty sure the BB label is not from Detroit. This is speculation but I've a feeling that it was set up, maybe in Philadelphia, soon after Swan went bankrupt. BB was probably named for Swan owner Bernie Binnick. Detroit group The Buena Vistas had a single released on BB (they'd also been on Swan) - the other releases may well have been masters picked up from independent producers. My computer at home's out of action so I can't access my data base but from memory the Buena Vistas is the only Detroit-related release on the label. Davie | ||
mel(andthensome) (mel) 3-Pundit Username: mel Post Number: 63 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.43.74.72 |
Cheers Davie appreciate all the info mate regards mel | ||
mel(andthensome) (mel) 3-Pundit Username: mel Post Number: 66 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.43.74.72 |
Davie your bang on again mate have just found a philadelphia various labels list of mine which includes the B.B. record label. Cheers MEL |
