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lenny (lennytone)
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Post Number: 69
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 66.241.87.19
Posted on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 5:47 pm: ��Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I love that song by the Dolls, "This Is Our Day". Does anyone know anything about them?
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Phil (phil)
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Post Number: 66
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 212.129.40.148
Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 1:25 am: ��Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lenny, in the Osborne's book, "Rockin' Records", I saw that the song that you mention is on Maltese 100, from 1965, and also that Norma Jenkins was in the group. But I can't add nothing more, I've never heard of her !
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Robb_K (robb_k)
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Post Number: 249
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 66.81.25.49
Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 4:35 am: ��Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The Dolls were on George Kerr's Maltese label.

I have Maltese 100: "This Is Our Day"/"What's Next"

and 107: Norma Jenkins & Dolls "A Lover's Stand"/"The Airplane Song"

They are from the period immediately after Kerr left Motown, and are heavily Motown influenced. "This Is Our Day" is a Jobete song.

Norma Jenkins also had a solo record out on Joe Evans' Carnival Records: Carnival 528: "Me Myself And I"/"Need Someone To Love"

The Dolls had another release on Toy Records, another New York label, produced by Dale Hawkins: Toy 707 - "The Reason Why"/"And That Reminds Me". It was leased for national distribution to Warner Bros.' subsidiary, Loma Records.

I assume that the group is from the NY-New Jersey area.
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Davie Gordon (davie_gordon)
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Post Number: 62
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 212.219.250.4
Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 8:05 am: ��Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Norma Jenkins resurfaced in the seventies with
a George Kerr produced album on the Desert Moon
label. She also had a few releases on the Creative Funk label prior to the Desert Moon album.

Davie
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Davie Gordon (davie_gordon)
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Post Number: 63
Registered: 4-2004
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Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 8:07 am: ��Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The Dolls on Toy are supposedly a different group - from Texas where Dale Hawkins was based at the time. This group of Dolls also had, IIRC,
a release on the Kangaroo label - based in Houston
- I'd have to check.

Davie
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Robb_K (robb_k)
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Username: robb_k

Post Number: 257
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 66.81.198.181
Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 4:42 pm: ��Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks, Davie. Then, can we assume THAT Toy label is NOT the New York Toy label, which is also red?
I had heard both that it was the same group and that it was a different group, and also both that it WAS and WAS NOT the same NY label. I couldn't tell by the singing that they were different people.
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Flynny (anoraks_corner)
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Post Number: 58
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 213.122.109.44
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 4:59 am: ��Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've always assumed tha those two 'Toy' labels were different companies.
Whilst on the subject, can anyone fill in the missing couple of numbers on the label listing here, please:
http://capitolsoulclub.homeste ad.com/MidTownListing.html
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Davie Gordon (davie_gordon)
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Username: davie_gordon

Post Number: 73
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 212.219.250.2
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 10:54 am: ��Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ignore that bit about Norma jenkins having releases on Creative Funk - that was Diane
Jenkins. Apologies - temporary brain overload:-)

Re the Toy label - the Dolls was on Toy 707.
The Toy lable that was based in NY used a number
system that started at 101.
I've a feeling there's a third, late fifties,
label called Toy.

Given that The Toy / Loma group were produced by
Dale Hawkins who was Texas-based at that time
(he was A&R chief for the Dallas-based Abnak label) and that there's a group called the Toys
on another Texan label (Kangaroo) I think we can
take it that there's one group of Dolls from
Texas and another group of Dolls from the NY area.

Flynny, when my database is up and running again I'll check your label list and see if I can anything.

Davie

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