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dvdmike (dvdmike)
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Username: dvdmike
Post Number: 2
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.253.178.169
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 8:35 pm: �� |     ���  |
I burned a CD using tracks from CD's and vinyl. The next-to-last track came from vinyl and the last from a CD. All the tracks I burned I had earlier saved to the hard drive. The problem was that the last track, a CD track did not show up on the burned CD. Like I said before, the next-to-last track came from vinyl and did pick up, the last track, a CD track, did not. Can someone shed some light here? |
Leo B (leo_b)
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Username: leo_b
Post Number: 3
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.41.104.246
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 8:42 pm: �� | ��� |
DVDMIKE,
The source of your recordings (vinyl vs. CD) should have no bearing on the problem.
Once on the hard drive they were likely all in the same file format anyway (.wav .mp3 etc).
Therefore, your burning application could not have distinguished between the two tracks.
Is it possible you exceeded the 72 minute limit of run time and the last track was omitted for lack of space ?
Leo B
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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
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Username: juicefree20
Post Number: 5
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.161.20.57
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 10:02 pm: �� | ��� |
Hey Mike, another possibility could be the the CD file wasn't entered into your queue for burning. Did you have all of the files in the same folder or location. Also, what program are you using to burn CDs?
Juice |
dvdmike (dvdmike)
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Username: dvdmike
Post Number: 3
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.253.178.169
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 07, 2004 - 11:37 pm: �� | ��� |
The total time for the tracks before burning was 70:38 and yes, I checked to make sure all the files were present before I clicked the burn tab. I used Nero, IOmega Hot Burn Pro and Music Matcj Jukebox to burn the same lineup of songs, I got the same result on all three programs. |
Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
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Username: juicefree20
Post Number: 7
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.161.20.57
| | Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 12:01 am: �� | ��� |
Mike, is it possible that the CD file was encoded to MP3, as opposed to wav? Also, play back the final track on the CD as it appears on your hard drive. Sometimes, something goes wrong with the source. You used vinyl & CD. What did you use as to record your vinyl & what did you use to record the CD? Sometimes, if you use different inputs, say line in for recording vinyl & record CDs directly from you computers' CD Rom drive, you may have to make an change in your preferences. Let me know how you ripped your vinyl & CD track.
Juice |
Uptight (uptight)
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Username: uptight
Post Number: 1
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 69.161.239.218
| | Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 5:21 am: �� | ��� |
Hey, Mike. It is possible you burned the last track as a separate "session" from the rest of the disc? Of course, you want the entire playlist burned "at once"--meaning everything written as one complete disc.
I have often loaded CD tracks into the computer and placed them between analog vinyl tracks onto audio/music CDR's. Let's say a few tracks of an album made it onto a commercial CD. You could burn the CD version of the song(s) into the middle of the audio CDR (or wherever the original album song sequence required them be placed). This requires taking the unfinalized disc back and forth from computer burner to audio CD recorder.
Of course, there are other methods like recording the vinyl directly into your computer, skipping the audio CDR recording step (and saving some money using computer CDR's). Then edit the vinyl tracks & digital CD tracks entirely inside your computer before burning. This method is cheaper, faster & cleaner sounding (if you know what you're doing) than the audio CD recorder method. |
dvdmike (dvdmike)
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Username: dvdmike
Post Number: 4
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 65.208.234.61
| | Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 6:59 am: �� | ��� |
When I copied the CD tracks on to my hard drive, they were saved as MP3 files, the vinyl track was not. I burned 20 tracks onto the CD, it was only track 20 that did not take. The file I saved from vinyl (track 19) did make it onto the CD and track 20, a CD track is the one missing, even though there was enough space and time for it on the CD. I tried this three times with three different burners and got the exact same result each time. Should I have saved the vinyl track as an MP3 or the CD tracks as wave files? It is my understanding that unless you are specifically trying to make an MP3 disc that the burner will automatically convert the files, MP3 or not into wave files. I'm a bit stumped. |
Ritchie (ritchie)
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Username: ritchie
Post Number: 4
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 62.254.0.32
| | Posted on Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 7:38 am: �� | ��� |
Mike - if you're copying CD tracks onto the hard drive solely to make a new CD compilation, there is no advantage in having them saved as mp3s: they should ideally be saved as WAV files to preserve the quality. The loss of quality in the compression process (CD to mp3) is the price paid for a smaller file size, and has no advantage when all you're trying to do is make a "new" CD. My only thought about the 'missing' track is a long shot, I'll admit - perhaps that one track did not encode properly, and then could not be decoded to burn to CD. When a track is saved as an mp3, it's encoded and compressed, and your CD burning software has to decode and decompress it to convert to a format suitable for burning to an audio CD. If all the tracks are saved in the first instance as WAV files, there is no compression and no encoding or decoding necessary. Another long shot - have you checked the file size of the unco-operative mp3? If it's very small - say a few kilobytes - that might be the problem. If not, try playing that one mp3 in Media Player or Winamp - if it doesn't play, there may be some problem with the file itself. If it does play OK, then for some unknown reason, perhaps the file won't decompress for CD-burning. Suggestion - whatever software you're using to copy from CD, try re-setting it to save as WAV, not mp3 - (it's probably under the program's "options", "preferences" or "settings" somewhere.) That will at least avoid some of the problems, and might even produce better-sounding CDs  |
Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
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Username: juicefree20
Post Number: 11
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.161.34.190
| | Posted on Friday, April 09, 2004 - 5:08 pm: �� | ��� |
Mike, Your burning program will automatically decompress your MP3 files to wave. I would agree with Ritchie , it's possible that you've got a bad file.
Juice |
Destruction (destruction)
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Username: destruction
Post Number: 1
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 199.173.225.2
| | Posted on Friday, April 09, 2004 - 5:59 pm: �� | ��� |
DVDMike,
Have you tried re-ordering the song sequence? If it drops the last song, it could mean that there are bad tracks on the CD. Even though the full capacity may be 74 minutes, it could contain 5 or more minutes of bad tracks, thus preventing you from adding the last song. If the software recognizes your "problem" track at track 15 instead of track 20, then it could be a capacity problem. If however, it still doesn't recognize the track, then as was menitoned earlier, it could have been encoded with a defect.
Ritchie,
Excellent advice on saving music to be burned to a CD as .WAV(lossless, which means "you lose less") rather than .MP3 (lossy, "losing more"). |
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