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Leo B (leo_b)
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Recently I was playing some cuts from Wilson's Philly record, and was struck with the need to find out who from the section ended up playing guitar and bass on Don't let the Green Grass Fool Ya and Engine #9.

These are both stellar examples of killer playing that REALLY move the song along without burying the vocalist. Stone cold grooves.
Bobby Eli ?

Leo B
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dvdmike (dvdmike)
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I believe Norman Harris played the octaves and Bobby did the other stuff. Well, I'm sure he'll come on to tell you. I always liked that LP and when it was released on CD, I grabbed one up.
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Eli (phillysoulman)
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Thats absolutely correct.
On Green Grass in was Norman playing the octaves and I was doing that "chugging" rhythm part.

On Enging #9 I played all of the wild stuff, ie the fuzz part and the wild lead part.

piclett

Heres a pic of Pickett at that very session.
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Phil (phil)
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Bobby, thanks for this nice pic ! "Don't let ..."is one of my favorite song by Wilson Pickett. Have you heard his version on the LP "Live in Japan" ?
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Leo B (leo_b)
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BOBBY:
Thanks for the Pic of the wicked one, you are the man!
ALL: "Grass" has one mother of a "chugging" rhythm part. Bobby makes it sound solid AND simple. HIGHLY recomended for guitar players.
I must now bow before the master,pick up the mantle and learn this part.
BTW Norman's hook with the octaves really sends chills. Pure icing over the percussion.
"Engine #9"
Brilliance is evident in the arrangement of the hook. A counterpoint succession of fuzz,clean triplets, congas and vibraslap ! Bobby wrings a psychedelic workout out of the fuzztone .. too cool.
Bobby: What can you tell us about the songwriting, production, arrangement and bass credits for these numbers ?

Humbly,

LEO B



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Eli (phillysoulman)
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Leo,

The bass player was the late Ronnie Baker.

The songs were produced by Gamble and Huff.

Green grass was written by Aikens, Turner, Drayton and Bellmon(the Formations) and Engine was written by G&H.

The Engine session was a head arangement done by all of us.

Green Grass, I believe was Bobby Martin.
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Erik T (erik_t)
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One of my favourite Pickett jams! In fact I played on the radio last night, mentioned the Embers project in relation to Bobby Eli's presence on the track... a few years ago when I payed it someone called to ask where he could get that killer James Brown cut! I let him know the cut was Wilson Pickett. He's playing Toronto in a couple of months, but that same listing I saw mentioned the Funk Bros whom are no longer listed for a July T.O. appearance, I sure hope it's still 'on'...
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Eli (phillysoulman)
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Erik,

If you go to the Pickett show, please tell him that you know me and welcome him to SD.

He's quite the character so be prepared!!
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Eli (phillysoulman)
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Erik,

PS..Thanks for mentioning the flaming Ember project.

That one will surprise a lot of folks!
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dvdmike (dvdmike)
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"Wilson Pickett In Philadelphia" arranger credits:

RUN, JOEY, RUN
HELP THE NEEDY
COME RIGHT HERE
GET ME BACK ON TIME, ENGINE NUMBER 9
DAYS GO BY
INTERNATIONAL PLAYBOY
AIN'T NO DOUBT ABOUT IT
Arranged by Bobby Martin

BUMBLE BEE (STING ME)
DON'T LET THE GREEN GRASS FOOL YOU
Arranged by Lenny Pakula
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Eli (phillysoulman)
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Help the needy was written by Carl Fisher(Vibrations) and myself and shown to Pickett directly with Carl singing it.
Pickett then proclaimed as only he could "lead me to the mike"!!! Lead me to the mike!!"
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Erik T (erik_t)
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Will do, Bobby! I know unreleased stuff is sometimes a touchy issue, but I want to mention it again- Wilson Pickett live in Stockholm February '69 is one of the hottest live performances I've heard! If only Wilson or someone could cut a deal with Swedish radio to release it from the original tapes, like so many rock n roll BBC sessions that came out over the 90's (Peel Sessions, live Gong, Blodwyn Pig, Jimi Hendrix, Fleetwood Mac when they were good, etc)

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