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Wonder B (wonder_b)
5-Doyen
Username: wonder_b
Post Number: 257
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 217.128.156.244
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 1:08 am: �� |     ���  |
This is another great and not so well known group...
I have their only LP on UNI but there was a CD which came out on a Chicago local label I believe... I am still looking for it... I am posting both scans here... if anyone can direct me on how to get that elusive CD.... I would really appreciate.
The LP :
And the CD I am looking for... :
Wonder B
If you mess with the 'fro, you gotta go! |
Cool Ju (cool_ju)
2-Debutant
Username: cool_ju
Post Number: 27
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 64.12.116.138
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 2:13 am: �� | ��� |
Hey Wonder, I am looking for that cd on UNI also. You are right it is very elusive. Someone promised it to me once but he was just bull-ing. If you find it let me know. |
Brother Love (brother_love)
3-Pundit
Username: brother_love
Post Number: 38
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.120.44.45
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 3:56 am: �� | ��� |
This is the cover of the Japanese CD which was issued by P-Vine in 1994. |
Mike Sku (mike_sku)
2-Debutant
Username: mike_sku
Post Number: 18
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 64.9.11.62
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 7:42 am: �� | ��� |
Try dustygroove.com
That's where I got my copy. |
Phil (phil)
3-Pundit
Username: phil
Post Number: 58
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 212.129.36.136
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 8:42 am: �� | ��� |
Yes, Mike, it's still there, at $ 11.99.But, I've never heard them. How do they sound ? |
Don (don)
4-Laureate
Username: don
Post Number: 153
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.75.174.68
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 11:04 am: �� | ��� |
Phil,
They sound great, and you won't be disappointed either. Believe you me. Group name also known herein Chicago as Patti & The Lovelites, still the same group. Chicago deejay P.J. Willis of WKKC 89.3 FM still keeps in touch with Patti and does keep listeners up to date of her and the groups whereabouts, and interview Patti periodicaly. I'll be listening to his show tonite from 8-2 Chicago time. He'll be spining all Chi Town sides tonite this around. He sure knows how to spin the dusty's. |
Boynextdoor (boynextdoor)
3-Pundit
Username: boynextdoor
Post Number: 39
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 4.165.96.8
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 12:29 pm: �� | ��� |
I got my copy of The Lovelite Years at discol.com. If you don't see it in their listing, email them. Bet they got it! good luck |
Phil (phil)
3-Pundit
Username: phil
Post Number: 60
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 213.36.137.50
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 2:20 pm: �� | ��� |
Thanks, Don, though, you didn't give me much details ! Is there another group in the same style ? I saw that their LP was from 1970, but that's all I know about them. |
Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
6-Zenith
Username: juicefree20
Post Number: 902
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 24.46.184.162
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 2:44 pm: �� | ��� |
Wonder B: That CD also contains some early sides by Denise Chandler, who grew up to become Deniece Williams. I don't have any of the CDs, I have just about all of their output on MP3.
Phil: think of that smooth Chi-Town sound of the late 60s to early 70s, or, Chess. Think of The Gems or Jo Ann Garrett Soprano type sound. Think The Fuzz or Barbara & The Uniques. Besides How Can I Tell My Mom & Dad, they have another real winner called It's My Conscience. It's one of those mid-tempo grooves with a touch of a swing. The kind of song you snap your fingers to while sipping a cold one.....REAL SMOOTH!!! |
Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
6-Zenith
Username: juicefree20
Post Number: 903
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 24.46.184.162
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 2:45 pm: �� | ��� |
By the way, you can expect to find the LPS priced between $20-$30. Plug their names into Google, I'm sure that you'll find something. |
Phil (phil)
3-Pundit
Username: phil
Post Number: 62
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 212.129.43.198
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 3:03 pm: �� | ��� |
Thanks, Juice, I'll try to get the LP, on ebay or elsewhere. I have the Jo Ann Garrett LP, and it has some good tracks, though I find it a little uneven. |
Robb_K (robb_k)
5-Doyen
Username: robb_k
Post Number: 232
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 204.108.65.10
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 3:06 pm: �� | ��� |
Before they were on Uni/Revue and Lovelite, Patti and The Lovelights cut a record on local Chicago label, Bandera in 1965 or 1966. Those cuts are great. I wonder if they also got onto the CD? |
LaBrenda (dotchain)
4-Laureate
Username: dotchain
Post Number: 81
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 166.68.134.174
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 3:40 pm: �� | ��� |
I have the cd . I have never seen the lps. I got the cd from the soulusicsite of david nathan's I believe.FYI there was a cd I ordered from amazon.com. several months back. Deniece williams the chicago years...i was on the waiting list for quite sometime.i kept resubmitting request but to no avail. I've never received it.I also saw it catalogued at backbeat records in amsterdam but that also never showed up. I did however get that lovelites cd. i enjoyed it especially as I just love JUNE DENIECE.I will find it and provide the tracks for those interested. I had never heard of them (the lovelites)prior....The Gems and quiet elegance and the LOVELITES were discoveries long after they were current. Thank God for this rediscovered 'new'(to me) ear candy cos I find it so hard to listen to a complete cd of the newer stuff. I don't even know the categories!I'm like a sad ole troll scanning the bins seeing no names I recognize , no songs I know...tissue pleez! |
Randy Russi (randy_russi)
3-Pundit
Username: randy_russi
Post Number: 69
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 169.139.180.100
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 3:42 pm: �� | ��� |
Is this the group that recorded "How Can I Tell
Mom & Dad?" |
Kdubya (paladin)
1-Arriviste
Username: paladin
Post Number: 7
Registered: 5-2004
Posted From: 206.185.64.23
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 4:24 pm: �� | ��� |
yes and I have the CD, picked it up from a little store in Chicago called dusty grooves on north ashland, think I paid 11 bucks...and yes Ms. Denice Williams is on the CD....great for collectors.... |
Wonder B (wonder_b)
5-Doyen
Username: wonder_b
Post Number: 258
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 81.50.39.33
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 4:39 pm: �� | ��� |
Thanks a lot for all the answers...
I must add some things...
Cool Ju, the UNI release is NOT a CD but an LP and I HAVE it! LOL
I am looking for the CD The LOVELITE YEARS (which is not on UNI but on a label for which I do not have the reference)
Juice thanks for the info, this is precisely why I am looking for that CD because I know about the extra sides included on that CD... and I love Deniece Williams!
I will try your leads... even though I was in Chicago quite a few times last year I was never able to find this CD... I also usually go to the record shops on N.Clark (good shops by the way for vinyl hunters like me... it's very seldom that I look for a CD like I am looking for this particular one... I am a vinyl freak and it makes up for 99.99% of what spins in this house of mine! LOL)
And by the way Juice, if you see that Lovelites original LP for $20 or even $40 or even $60, jump on it cos' I have never seen it go for less than a cool $100 (and I am still way below LOL) on Ebay...
Thanks again everybody
Wonder B
If you mess with the 'fro, you gotta go!
(Message edited by Wonder B on May 18, 2004) |
Robb_K (robb_k)
5-Doyen
Username: robb_k
Post Number: 233
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 204.108.65.10
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 4:55 pm: �� | ��� |
The "Lovelite Years" refers to the time they were on the Lovelite label, after Uni/Revue. Yes, Patti Hamilton and her Lovelites group did sing "How Can I Tell My Mom and Dad?" Lovelite was an independent Chicago label distributed by Chess at one time and also by Master Key Records. I believe Patti had some participation in the label. |
Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
6-Zenith
Username: juicefree20
Post Number: 921
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 24.46.184.162
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 8:08 pm: �� | ��� |
Wonder B: There's a guy named Craig Moorer who is a dealer. His stuff can be a little pricey & he doesn't seem to know what's truly rare. I paid $20 for The Delfonics Return LP, which should've been a $5 cut-out LP at best. I believe that the Deniece Chandler sides were those that she recorded for the Toddlin' Town & Lock labels from '67-'69. However, check Craig Moorer records by mail. Also, a subscription to Goldmine or DISCoveries may lead you to lesser known dealers. I've gotten many bargains that way. |
Brother Love (brother_love)
3-Pundit
Username: brother_love
Post Number: 40
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 64.169.116.169
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 10:09 pm: �� | ��� |
THE LOVELITES (Left to right: Joni, Patti and Dell)
UNI Records publicity picture, 1969 |
Wonder B (wonder_b)
5-Doyen
Username: wonder_b
Post Number: 270
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 81.48.89.178
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 1:44 am: �� | ��� |
Oh Brother Love you are killing me with that one, I have been looking to get a promo pic of the Lovelites for ages!!!!
Thanks Juice I know Craig too... Since the stuff I am missing is kind of rare, he IS a bit pricey for me although like you said you never know... maybe you can spot the elusive mispriced rare gem sometimes...
As for other dealers, I have been reading Goldmine and DISCoveries for years now and I have pretty much tried them all! I look all day long on the net too... but spending has it's limits and my wife makes sure that I keep this in mind EVERY day! She's right too!
If it wasn't for her, I'd be bankrupt!
Wonder B
If you mess with the 'fro, you gotta go! |
Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
6-Zenith
Username: juicefree20
Post Number: 951
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 24.46.184.162
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 1:50 am: �� | ��� |
Brother, I thought that I had a bit of a collection. Your collection puts me to shame. I've never seen half of the stuff you post. I'm in awe, simply in awe!!! |
Brother Love (brother_love)
3-Pundit
Username: brother_love
Post Number: 43
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 67.113.217.36
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 2:36 pm: �� | ��� |
The Lovelites (Left to right: Joni, Dell and Patti)
Photography: Joey Fisher |
stillsoulin (rob_hurcomb)
1-Arriviste
Username: rob_hurcomb
Post Number: 5
Registered: 5-2004
Posted From: 81.152.201.15
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 2:37 pm: �� | ��� |
nice to see a post on the lovelites, patti hamilton is one of my favorite singers of all time, check out their version of "my baby loves me" the martha song. absalutely gorgeous.
rob. |
Brother Love (brother_love)
3-Pundit
Username: brother_love
Post Number: 44
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 67.113.217.36
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 2:46 pm: �� | ��� |
I've always thought this was such a cool looking label. |
Brother Love (brother_love)
3-Pundit
Username: brother_love
Post Number: 45
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 67.113.217.36
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 3:02 pm: �� | ��� |
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Brother Love (brother_love)
3-Pundit
Username: brother_love
Post Number: 46
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 67.113.217.36
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 3:18 pm: �� | ��� |
I remember this record being a bit controversial because of its subject matter. |
Don (don)
4-Laureate
Username: don
Post Number: 161
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.77.34.127
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 8:11 pm: �� | ��� |
Hi Brother Love,
The flip side to "My Conscience" is "Man In My Life" the Bside. There is another single I have by Patti & the Lovelites is "Oh My Love" b/w "Love So Strong". At one time many moons ago I had all The Lovelites and/or Patti & The Lovelites singles, even their "How Can I Tell My Mom & Dad, cause this 45 single sold like wildfire that it was hard to find, not even at the stores anymore, cause I remember so. I kinda do remember a couple of releases on Cotillon i once had. I never owned any LP's of this group.
I'm hoping my favorite DJ PJ that spins alot of classic dusty's on his tuesday nite show will hopefully be coming on board soon. I've told him all about SD. I hope he is so he'll get registered. |
Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
6-Zenith
Username: juicefree20
Post Number: 972
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 24.46.184.162
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 9:32 pm: �� | ��� |
I always wondered why they recorded the songs My Conscience & It's Your Conscience, with such similar titles. Although different songs, I imagine that there was some confusion regarding these songs. I always preferred It's Your Conscience. What a song!! |
Don (don)
4-Laureate
Username: don
Post Number: 168
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.77.34.127
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 9:55 pm: �� | ��� |
Another DJ friend of mine said to me once That Patti Still has control of her business and songs and that she controls the way her records are distributed and marketed. Maybe that's why many of the releases are hard to come by, with the exception of a few avenues that someone can get their hands on these rare of a gem collector items.
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Don (don)
5-Doyen
Username: don
Post Number: 171
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.75.189.175
| | Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 2:15 pm: �� | ��� |
Hi Robb,
The singles that Patti and group recorded for the Bandera label, I remember having. I never gotten a chance to play the single. Didn't the group cut 4 sides for Bandera? Also wasn't it a personel change within The Lovelites afer the Bandera releases. I seem to have read that somewhere. |
Robb_K (robb_k)
5-Doyen
Username: robb_k
Post Number: 238
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 66.81.183.150
| | Posted on Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 8:52 pm: �� | ��� |
Don: I have seen only one Bandera single by The Lovelights. So if they had released 2 singles, or recorded 2 cuts that went unreleased, I'd love to hear them (as their Bandera cuts were, by far, my favourites of their work). I have Bandera 2515- "You Better Stop It"/b/w "I Found Me A Lover"-both fantastic A-side material. They were both written by Patti and Rosena (Rosey) Hamilton and Ernie Hines. They were produced by "W.N.". Anyone know who that could be? I think I remember hearing that there were four members when they were on Bandera. Maybe Patti's sister Rosey was also a member then, and she dropped out before they became popular? Or, if there were always only three, her sister left and was replaced? |
Brother Love (brother_love)
3-Pundit
Username: brother_love
Post Number: 49
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 67.113.218.239
| | Posted on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 3:59 pm: �� | ��� |
The Lovelites - Discography
Singles
I Found Me A Lover/You Better Stop It - Bandera 2515
How Can I Tell My Mom And Dad/Hey! Stars Of Tomorrow (inst.) - Lock 723
My Conscience/Man In My Life - Lovelite 01, 1970
Bumpy Road Ahead/Love Is Pretty - Lovelite 02, 1970
My Baby Loves Me/The Way That You Treat Me Baby - Lovelite 03, 1970
Love So Strong/Oh My Love - Lovelite 1008, 1970
How Can I Tell My Mom And Dad/Hey! Stars Of Tomorrow (inst.) - UNI 55181, 1969
Who You Gonna Hurt Now/Oh My Love - UNI 55222, 1969
This Love Is Real/Oh My Love - UNI 55242, 1969
I'm The One That You Need/Love Bandit - Cotillion 44145, 1972
Is This Lovin' In Your Heart/We've Got The Real Thing - Cotillion 44161, 1972
Get It Off My Conscience/Oh What A Day - Lovelite 1500, 1975
Albums & CD's
With Love From The Lovelites - UNI 73081, 1969
This Love Is Real - P-Vine 2904, 1994 (Japan only)
The Lovelite Years - Lovelite 1021, 1999
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Don (don)
5-Doyen
Username: don
Post Number: 176
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.75.180.238
| | Posted on Friday, May 21, 2004 - 10:08 pm: �� | ��� |
A Nice Discography Brother Love. I did have their whole singles on 45 except for "Get It Off My Conscience" b/w "Oh What A Day".
Hey Robb K, sorry for the mix up. I mistaken the groups Bandera sides with the Lock sides. Because they seem to have come out similarly around the same time? I know after looking at Brother Love's discography it does ring a bell. Although "How Can I Tell...." I remember it sounded different at an slower pace, though the idea was there. I may be wrong or it's the very same track? |