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  Vonnie (vonnie) 4-Laureate Username: vonnie Post Number: 129 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 152.163.252.200 |
Can you name those acts that have spawned spin-off acts, I will start with a few that I remember. (Message edited by Vonnie on May 13, 2004) | ||
DyvaNaye (westside314) 5-Doyen Username: westside314 Post Number: 356 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 209.212.74.216 |
Issac Hayes - Bar Kays - Kay Gees NiteLiters - New Birth Five Stairsteps - Invisible Man's Band Black Ivory - The Aleem thinking....thinking....good one Vonnie! | ||
Eli (phillysoulman) 5-Doyen Username: phillysoulman Post Number: 340 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.236.62.144 |
The Kay Gees were a Kool and the gang spinoff. | ||
Stonewall (stonewall) 5-Doyen Username: stonewall Post Number: 210 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.237.113.74 |
THE PRIMETTES: The Supremes Diana Ross & The Supremes Florence Ballard (solo) Diana Ross & The Supremes and The Temptations The 1970s Supremes Diana Ross (solo) The Supremes & The Four Tops Jean Terrell (solo) Marvin Gaye & Diana Ross (duo) Diana Ross & Michael Jackson ("The Wiz") Mary Wilson (solo) Former Ladies of The Supremes (FLOS) Scherrie & Susaye (duo) Diana Ross & Lionel Richie (duo) Susaye Green (solo) Sounds of The Supremes (SOS) THE PRIMES: The Temptations David Ruffin (solo) Eddie Kendricks (solo) Dennis Edwards (solo) The Ruffin Brothers (duo) Hall & Oates with Ruffin & Kendricks (2 duos) Richard Street (solo) Dennis Edwards & His Temptations THE BEATLES: Paul McCartney (solo) John Lennon (solo) George Harrison (solo) Ringo Starr (solo) Mary Hopkins Wings Plastic Ono Band THE JACKSON 5: Michael Jax (solo) Jermaine (solo) The Jacksons Rebe Jackson Jackie Jackson (solo) Marlon Jackson (solo) Rockwell with Michael (duo) Janet Jackson Paul McCartney & Michael Jax LaToya Jackson(!) MARVIN GAYE: Marvun Gaye with The Vandellas Marvin Gaye with The Supremes Marvin & Mary Wells Marvin & Uma Page Marvin & Kim Weston Marvin & Tammi Terrell Diana Ross & Marvin Gaye Frankie Gaye Tamla Gaye THE BLUEBELLES: Patti LaBelle & The Bluebelles LaBelle (group) Patti LaBelle (solo) Nona Hendryx (solo) Sarah Dash (solo) LOVE UNLIMITED: Love Unlimited Orchestra Love Unlimited (Girl Group) Barry White PRINCE: Apollonia Sheila E. Vanity THE RONETTES: Veronica Bonnie & The Treasures Ronnie Spector HAROLD MELVIN & THE BLUENOTES: Teddy Pendergrass Harold Melvin's Bluenotes The Bluenotes THE MARVELETTES: The Darnells Ann Bogan/New Birth Wanda Rogers & The Andantes BETTE MIDLER: The Harlettes Barry Manilow Former Ladies of The Harlettes RICK JAMES: Stone City Band Mary Janes Girls Teena Marie DESTINY'S CHILDREN: Beyonce Knowles (solo) Kellie Whatshername (solo?) Michelle Something (solo!) GLADYS KNIGHT & THE PIPS: Gladys Knight (solo) The Pips (solo) THE SPINNERS: Philippe Wynne G. C. Cameron THE ISLEY BROTHERS: Ron Isley Burt Bacharach & Ron Isley THE FOUR SEASONS: Frankie Valle The Guess Who THE GUMM SISTERS: Judy Garland MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS Martha Reeves (solo) BIG BROTHER & THE HOLDING COMPANY: Janis Joplin THE MIRACLES: Smokey Robinson THE LOVIN' SPOONFUL: John Sebastian THE STYLISTICS: Russell Thompkins, Jr. SISTER SLEDGE: Kathy Sledge THE COMMODORES: Lionel Richie THE RIGHTEOUS BROTHERS: Bill Medley THE BLOSSOMS: Darlene Love GENISIS: Phil Collins THE SHIRELLES: Shirley Alston (Message edited by STONEWALL on May 13, 2004) (Message edited by STONEWALL on May 13, 2004) | ||
DyvaNaye (westside314) 5-Doyen Username: westside314 Post Number: 358 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 209.212.74.216 |
Thank you Eli...and didnt some of those members come from the Bar Kays? | ||
SDF (handsome) 4-Laureate Username: handsome Post Number: 79 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 170.118.158.14 |
The Drinkard Family Singers (also with adopted member Judy Clay) The Gospelaires (featured sisters Dionne & Dee Dee Warwick & cousin Myrna Smith) Dionne Warwick-Solo Dee Dee Warwick-Solo The Sweet Inspirations Cissy Houston Whitney Houston Handsome | ||
Manny (manny) 4-Laureate Username: manny Post Number: 109 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.124.10.42 |
Hi again, soulful brothers & sisters! Hello, Vonnie, very good thread for refreshing the memorie! BTW, I think that The Monster Orchestra is only owned by John Davis without other MFSB members (?) Also, I think Ritchie family is only arranger Richard Rome as PIR personnel member (?) Here's some other (if i'm not wrong): -IKE TURNER: Ikettes -STEVIE WONDER: Wonderlove -MFSB: Dexter Wansel, Norman Harris, H-B-Y, Michael Pedicin Jr., Salsoul Orchestra, Vincent Montana Sextet, Montana -FANIA ALL-STARS: Roberto Roena, Ray Barreto, Johnny Pacheco, Arturo Sandoval -IRAKERE: Chucho Bald�s -AIRTO MOREIRA: Airto & Flora, Fourth World, Flora Purim -EARTH WIND & FIRE: Phillip Bailey -CHICK COREA: Return To Forever -HERBIE HANCOCK: Headhunters -DONALD BYRD: Blackbyrds, Kevin Toney -WAR: Lee Oskar -SLY & THE FAMILY STONE: Larry Graham, Graham Central Station -ISAAC HAYES: Isaac Hayes Movement -WEATHER REPORT: Joe Zawinul, Sadao Watanabe -MAHAVISHNU ORCH.: Jacko Pastorius -POLICE: Sting -GENESIS: Phil Colins I think i consult my bibilography and discography and come on again later (perhaps i should make this before!) Peace & Soul Food | ||
Eli (phillysoulman) 5-Doyen Username: phillysoulman Post Number: 342 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.236.62.144 |
Manny, The Ritchie Family, in its ORIGINAL incarnation, was to be an ORCHESTRA much in the vain of MFSB with female singers ala the Three Degrees. ALL the musicians from MFSB were the musicians on those records. In fact, I got the call first, so it could have been the Eli family or something like that. It was the "brain child" of thelate Jacques Morali.(thats another story) Soon after because of the cost of showcasing such a large group, it was whittled down to the three girls. The Sweeties were the session singers. The Monster Orchestra was only a name. The musicians were MFSB and the girls were the Sweeties. I know these things because I was there! | ||
douglasm (douglasm) 3-Pundit Username: douglasm Post Number: 69 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.113.12.67 |
Did Bootsie Collins spin out of the Famous Flames, or did he spin into the Parla-Funkedelic Thang before the Rubber Band? | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 757 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
Bootsy & Catfish Collins were in a group called The Pacesetters. When James' band walked out on him in a dispute before a concert, he brought the boys on board. As he found James to be abit restrictive, he fell in line with George Cs Parliament/Funkadelice Thang, where he posed as Casper. From there, he morphed into Bootsy's Rubberband. | ||
Manny (manny) 4-Laureate Username: manny Post Number: 110 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.124.10.167 |
Hey, Mr. Electronic! Pardon me, please and, as always, many thanks for your precious info "by first hand"!. I only have a doubt because i have read that Richard Rome formed Ritchie Family and John Davis The Monster Orch. and in the disco music website where i read this don't says nothing about other members (except the name of the three Ritchie's girls). Some other spin-off acts (if i'm no wrong!): -CRUSADERS: Joe Sample (solo act); Wilton Felder (solo act); Wayne Henderson (solo act); Larry Carlton (solo act) -DRAMATICS: L. J. Reynolds (solo act); Ron Banks (solo act) -JONES GIRLS: Shirley Jones (solo act) -(As a tribute to John Whitehead) EPSILONS-TALK OF THE TOWN: McFaden & Whitehead; John Whitehead (solo act; i see a review of a John's solo album) -BRECKER BROTHERS: Randy (solo act); Michael (solo act) -IMPRESSIONS: Curtis (solo act); Jerry Butler (solo act) -CHI-LITES: Eugene Record (solo act) -SPINNERS: G.C. Cameron (solo act); Philippe Winne (solo act) -OS CATEDR�TICOS: Eumir Deodato (solo act; Dom Um Romao (solo act) -LIGHT OF THE WORLD: Beggar & Co; Incognito -ROTARY CONNECTION: Minnie Ripperton (solo act) -THE METERS: The Neville Brothers; Aaron Neville (solo act) -STAPLE SINGERS: Mavis Staples (solo act) Peace & Soul Food | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 767 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
Prince also had many spin off acts from his camp: Apollonia 6 Vanity 6 Andre Cymone Brownmark Wendy & Lisa Morris Day & The Time Rosie Gaines | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 768 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
The Commodores also spun off Thomas McClary, who released a solo LP when he left the group. Rick James also spun off The Stone City Band & Teena Marie. The Pips also spun off from Gladys & recorded for Casablanca. | ||
DyvaNaye (westside314) 5-Doyen Username: westside314 Post Number: 368 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 209.212.74.216 |
The Jackson 5 - Jermaine Jackson - Jackie Jackson - The Real Michael Jackson-The Jacksons - Plastic Surgery Michael Jackson- Randy Jackson and his group - Marlon Jackson- Janet Jackson-Rebbie Jackson- Latoya Jackson- The Three T's. | ||
DyvaNaye (westside314) 5-Doyen Username: westside314 Post Number: 369 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 209.212.74.216 |
Sylvester and Two Tons of Fun to The Weather Girls | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 773 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
I also forgot to add Mazerati to spinoff acts of Prince. | ||
Vonnie (vonnie) 4-Laureate Username: vonnie Post Number: 134 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 149.174.164.24 |
DyvaNaye, LMAO, Plastic Surgery Michael Jackson.  | ||
Stonewall (stonewall) 5-Doyen Username: stonewall Post Number: 217 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.237.113.74 |
Vonnie Vee: How could U overlook BETTE's tres gaye piano player? New ads show him with a big double deluxe "live" c.d., Honey. Maybe re-read my revised and expanded "Spin Offs" list. It's fab! ------------------------------ ------------------------------ ------ Voting Alert: Dyva Naye P.S. I was wondering who would mention Miss Sylvester (RIP), Two Tons of Fun & The Weather Girls... and even then: Martha Wash! Well, Dyva Naye, "You're The One" (know who sings that?). Now, Miss Naye, U go vote on "Countdown: M-45", which U kept sayin' U voted on and I still say U didn't coz U di'nt. U only stated U wondering what MICHELLE JAX & THE BOYZ would be doin'? And I nicely commented on that. Hold the boat! Here comes Dyva's vote! "I'll meet U there". Hurry! | ||
Jimmy Mack (luke) 4-Laureate Username: luke Post Number: 157 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.198.48.201 |
Patti La Belle and the Bluebelles started out as the Bluebelles,preceeded by the Ordettes and the Del Capris. | ||
Stonewall (stonewall) 5-Doyen Username: stonewall Post Number: 219 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.237.113.74 |
THE BLUEBELLES, yes, but I believe the other two are a little murky on whether they were really The Bluebelles? Do U have more 411? Were they the same group members? I doubt it. Clearly, no spin-offs from THE MARVELETTES, eh, Jimma? Wow! That Patti has been around singin' a long, long, long time yet looks and is great! | ||
Jimmy Mack (luke) 4-Laureate Username: luke Post Number: 161 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.198.48.201 |
U got that mr stone...Patti is the Empress. She and Cindy were in the Ordettes and NOna and Sara were in the Del Capris. | ||
Jimmy Mack (luke) 4-Laureate Username: luke Post Number: 162 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.198.48.201 |
Marvelettes/Anne Bogan/New Birth | ||
Stonewall (stonewall) 5-Doyen Username: stonewall Post Number: 220 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.237.113.74 |
It's "Stone" with a capital "S", mr. mackey as in Bob! U brought back quick-sand memories. So, let's recap. ORDETTES + DEL CAPRIS = BLUEBELLES That's what came back to me. So, I'm starting with THE BLUEBELLES as the other 2 lil' girl groups preceded it. Thus, we are both correct as we are starting at different points. Besides, I am not having a heading that says: The Odettes. What a name! Ugh. We like strong "ETTES" like THE VELVELETTES, THE RONETTES and, of course, THE MARVELETTES. | ||
Jimmy Mack (luke) 4-Laureate Username: luke Post Number: 164 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.198.48.201 |
Hmmmmmmm ok--the geneis is what we r talking about.As well as the tangents. Marvelettes/Anne Bogan/New Birth;;;;;;;;;;Mr/Stone/Wall/h is highnie. | ||
Stonewall (stonewall) 5-Doyen Username: stonewall Post Number: 222 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.237.113.74 |
MackMan -- I agree! Go see revised list Thanx -- 2 U. P.s. - Smarty Pants -- U left out The Darnells as in "Too........., Too.........." (Message edited by STONEWALL on May 13, 2004) | ||
roger (roger) 3-Pundit Username: roger Post Number: 57 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.35.87.17 |
Hello Everyone. Mr Stonewall ( with a capital "S" ), I can add a couple of other "strong ETTES" to your list .. the MIRETTES and THE IKETTES .. and weren't THE MIRETTES former IKETTES themselves? Roger | ||
Wonder B (wonder_b) 5-Doyen Username: wonder_b Post Number: 212 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.50.37.83 |
Juice, your comment on the Pacesetters and Bootsy was absolutely right but before joining P-Funk after leaving James Brown they mutated into two groups Bootsey, Phelps & the Complete Strangers, and then the House Guests... And by the way on the subject of P-Funk spin-offs acts, we could also add to Vonnie's initial list which was : GEORGE CLINTON Parliament P-Funk All-Stars Parlet Brides of Funkenstein Funkadelics Bootsy's Rubber Band Parliament-Funkadelic Then we can also add (acts who had albums of their own) ... : Eddie Hazel Fuzzy Haskins Sweat Band Philippe Wynne Godmoma Mutiny (w/ Jerome Brailey) Jimmy G & the Tackheads Otis Day & the Nights OG Funk (Billy Bass Nelson) Tal Ross (Funkadelic early guitarist who issued one CD in the 90's) Andr� Foxxe Quazar (Glen Goins) Space Cadets Fred Wesley & the Horny Horns Dawn Silva Mallia Franklin Drugs (Clip Payne) Incorporated Thang Band (Lige Curry & Andr� Foxxe) and on and on and on..., cos' I am sure I must be missing a few...! Wonder B If you mess with the 'fro, you gotta go! | ||
Heikki (heikki) 3-Pundit Username: heikki Post Number: 57 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.17.199.27 |
Hi, Bootsy gave me this oder: - the Pacemakers (first the Pacesetters, but they had to change the name, as there already existed another recording group by that name)in '68 - '69 -> with the Godfather as the J.B.'s - back to Cincinnati as the Houseguests in '71 -> Funkadelic -> after Funkadelic the Complete Stragers in '73; Bootsy: "after leaving Funkadelic in 1973 I felt we had been all over the world with James Brown and George Clinton and we're still 'complete strangers', so that's what I called the group." -> back to George Best regards Heikki | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 816 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
Wonder. George's camp was just too big to keep up with. Those brothers rolled deep! | ||
Wonder B (wonder_b) 5-Doyen Username: wonder_b Post Number: 221 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.248.162.71 |
You're right Juice... I am still trying to find a few of the 45's he produced in the 60's... Wonder B If you mess with the 'fro, you gotta go! | ||
Don (don) 4-Laureate Username: don Post Number: 121 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.78.26.48 |
Rick James' younger brother had a group that recorded 2 LP'S for Columbia. The vocalgroup's name was Process and The DooRags. I had their first LP once. The first single, I think?, was the Lamont Dozier (Rarely, heard and played) classic "FOREVER". Prince's Camp had Jill Jones Eric Leeds and Madhouse | ||
Don (don) 4-Laureate Username: don Post Number: 124 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.78.26.48 |
Cameo Cashflow Charlie Singleton (solo) Prince The 3 O'Clock Dale The Family | ||
Stonewall (stonewall) 5-Doyen Username: stonewall Post Number: 259 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.237.10.142 |
Yesss! IKE & TINA's IKETTES -- after they got off Mr. TURNER's rollercoaster -- became THE MIRETTES as, rather expectedly, Ikey refused to let them use the name "The Ikettes" (no doubt w/ threats of.... if they did). And, let's not forget THE ROYALETTES.... and even THE CHARMETTES.... oh, and those BOBETTES. "Roger and OUT!" | ||
Manny (manny) 4-Laureate Username: manny Post Number: 130 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.124.10.212 |
Hi again, soulful folks! Some other spin-off acts: -Chairmen Of The Board: General Johnson (solo act) -LTD: Steve Arrington (solo act) -City Limits: Terri Welles (solo act) -Trammps: Robert Upchurch (solo act) -Five Stairteps: Keni Burke (solo act) Peace & Soul Food | ||
Don (don) 4-Laureate Username: don Post Number: 126 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.78.26.48 |
Hi Stonewall, I loved their Mr. Lee song a lot. | ||
Wonder B (wonder_b) 5-Doyen Username: wonder_b Post Number: 235 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.48.89.196 |
Manny if you mention the 5 Stairsteps and Keni, you oughta mention Cubie Burke who did a magnificent dance 12" on Rissa Chrissa Records ('Down For Double') in the early 80's and also the INVISIBLE MAN's BAND... they had two LP's (in fact it was Kenny BUrke behind the whole thang) and one hit with 'All Night Thing' on Mango (the second LP was on Boardwalk if I remember correctly) Wonder B If you mess with the 'fro, you gotta go! | ||
Manny (manny) 4-Laureate Username: manny Post Number: 133 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.124.10.155 |
Hi again, Cornelius Brothers & Sister Rose! Hey, Wonder B! your knowledge (and your discography) is very envoyable! Thanks for your info. Some other spin-off acts: -LEVERT: Gerald Levert (solo act) -INNER LIFE: Jocelyn Brown (solo act) -DEBARGE: El DeBarge (solo act) -SALTIN' PEPA: Carmen Lundy (solo act) -SOUL STIRRERS: Sam Cooke, Johnny Taylor and Lou Rawls solo acts -THE COASTERS: Clyde McPhatter (solo act) Peace & Soul Food! | ||
roger (roger) 3-Pundit Username: roger Post Number: 63 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.35.87.17 |
Manny .. Greetings from sunny London .. 23 degrees at 9.15 this morning ( thats 73 for those of you who stick to Fahrenheit measurements!! ). I've just seen your post from Saturday, and I have a correction to make. STEVE ARRINGTON was involved with SLAVE. It was JEFFREY OSBOURNE who was the lead singer with LTD. Oh yes .. and CLYDE McPHATTER was an original member of THE DRIFTERS .. not the COASTERS. Roger | ||
Manny (manny) 4-Laureate Username: manny Post Number: 134 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.124.10.108 |
Hi Roger! I'm glad for this hot temperature in your hometown (yesterday I suffered cold in the Pyrenees Mountains, in the "supoused" most sunny country in Europe!) Fortunatelly, here in SD have persons like you with a great knowledge for to correct who is wrong (as, frequently, myself). Effectively, Clyde was the lead with The Drifters (I always have confusion betwen Coasters and Drifters, I says "Drifters" when I wanna says "Coasters" and viceversa; ignore the reason why!) About Steve Arrington, simply i'm confused. Also, some spin-off acts like Trammps - Robert Upchurch, I knows it grace to you (for a previous trhead). Thanks you, friend. (Hope you have many more sunny days like today) Peace & Soul Food |
