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  Satipe (satipe) 1-Arriviste Username: satipe Post Number: 3 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.50.137.38 |
I just heard a great song by the Black Eyed Peas called "Where is the Love?" and as much as new music gets criticised here, it is a good message song. No artist will get close to Marvin asking "What's Going On?" but this is a nice song with a strong message. Message songs were popular at one time with Marvin Gaye (most of his What's Going On album), Freda Payne (Bring the Boys Home), Edwin Starr (War), Chi-Lites (There Will Never Be Any Peace Until God Sits at the Conference Table), etc. Now they get banned or do not fit into airplay which is sad as we get to listen to what (put rapper's name here) did to his ho, made his bling bling and can swear a few times. I may be old but something in my eyes seems wrong when a message song gets beaten by bling bling. | ||
ralph (ralph) Moderator Username: ralph Post Number: 175 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 209.240.205.61 |
I like this song, believe it or not gang! | ||
Eli (phillysoulman) 5-Doyen Username: phillysoulman Post Number: 333 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.236.42.212 |
GREAT song !! It hit when it first came out about a year ago. Other great message songs: Wake up everybody--RIP JW Backstabbers RIP JW When the worlds at peace RIP JW Ill always love my mama RIP JW War- RIP Edwin For the love of money Smiling faces Message in the music Shady shiftles people | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 744 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
Hey Ralph!!! Guess what??? I just heard a pretty good song about eyes!!! Would you know anything about it??? The young lady has a nice clear tone & sounds nice! It even sounds like Johnny Bristol is doing a call & response on it!!! So Ralph, what can you tell us about this lovely song????  Juice | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 745 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
Satipe: I hear you & understand completely. Music has almost always been a reflection of its time. Todays music is but a mere reflection of the ills of the world today. The primary difference is that our era dreamed of a better world, of a brighter day. We believed in hope & dreams that might come true. Today, they have no hope. They don't expect to be here long, so, they want as much as they can get, as quickly as they can. It's all about now, not tomorrow & it's reflected in everything that they say & do! | ||
Satipe (satipe) 1-Arriviste Username: satipe Post Number: 5 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.50.137.38 |
Juicefree20: Your note says it all! I am a high school teacher who is trying to do the best for 'my kids' but I lose a few each weekend. I HATE weekends but know a few will mess up. I wish that more message songs would come out so that teachers can help. "Where is the Love?" by Black Eyed Peas is great! Their other songs about being retarded or shutting up are not good. So, we can choose what songs are helpful and leave out the others... | ||
Stonewall (stonewall) 5-Doyen Username: stonewall Post Number: 186 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.237.113.74 |
***** Dr. STONEWALL's "TOP 100" M-E-S-S-A-G-E Songs: DIANA ROSS: "I'm Coming O-U-T" McFADDEN & WHITEHEAD: "Ain't No Stopping Us Now" DONNA SUMMER: "Rumor Has It" ELVIS PRESLEY: "Suspicious Minds" THE SPINNERS: "Message From A Black Man" BRENDA HOLLOWAY: "When I'm Gone" THE FOUR TOPS: "Don't Bring Back Memories" DUSTY SPRINGFIELD: "The Windmills Of My Mind" THE O'JAYS: "Ship Ahoy" DIANA ROSS & THE SUPREMES: "Love Child" CHERYL LYNN: "Got To Be Real" THE BEATLES: "Let It Be" MARVIN GAYE: "What's Going On?" SHIRLEY BASSEY: "I Am What I Am" THE TEMPTATIONS: "Ball of Confusion" BOB DYLAN: "Blowin' In The Wind" MARTHA REEVES & THE VANDELLAS: "I Should Be Proud" EDWIN STARR: "Stop The War Now" THE MARVELETTES: "Too Many Fish In The Sea" JACKIE de SHANNON: "What The World Needs Now (Is Love)" SLY & THE FAMILY STONE: "Everybody Is A Star" DIANA ROSS: "Reach Out, I'll Be There" STEVIE WONDER: "Superstition" THE RASCALS: "People Gotta Be Free" ARETHA: "The Weight" THE SUPREMES: "Everybody's Got The Right To Love" BRENDA HOLLOWAY: "U Can Cry On My Shouder" THE SHANGRI-LAS: "Give Us Your Blessings" THE TEMPTATIONS: "Runaway Child, Running Wild" DIONNE WARWICK: "Message To Michael" MARVIN GAYE & TAMMI TERRELL: "Ain't Nothing Like The Real Thing" PETER, PAUL & MARY: "Puff The Magic Dragon" MARIAH CAREY: "I'll Be There" TEDDY PENDERGRASS: "Wake Up Everybody" DIANA ROSS & THE SUPREMES: "The Young Folks" DION: "Abraham, Martin & John" THE TEMPTATIONS: "Cloud Nine" ARETHA: "Respect" THE O'JAYS: "For The Love Of Money" THE BEATLES: "Hey, Jude" DIANA ROSS: "Remember Me" MARVIN GAYE: "Inner City Blues (Make Me Wanna Holer)" THE VELVELETTES: "A Bird In The Hand Is Worth Two In The Bush" JACKIE deSHANNON: "Put A Little Love In Your Heart" MICHAEL JACKSON: "Black Or White" THE TEMPATIONS: "Don't Let The Joneses Get U Down" JIMMY RUFFIN: "What Becomes Of The Broken-Hearted?" TOMMY JAMES & THE SHONDELLS: "Crystal Blue Persuasion" GLORIA GAYNOR: "I Will Survive" LAMONT DOZIER: "Fish Ain't Bitin'" BOB B. SOXX & THE BLUEJEANS featuring DARLENE LOVE: "Not Too Young To Get Married" RAY STEVENS: "Everything Is Beautiful" MARTHA REEVES & THE VANDELLAS: "Forget Me Not" THE SPINNERS: "Games People Play" DIONNE WARWICK: "A House Is Not A Home" JOHN LENNON: "Imagine" DIANA ROSS/THE SUPREMES: "Keep An Eye On Your Close Friends" MARVIN GAYE: "Mercy, Mercy Me" THE CRYSTALS: "He's A Rebel" MADONNA: "Justify Your Love" DIANA ROSS & THE SUPREMES and THE TEMPTATIONS: "A House Is Not A Home" THE O'JAYS: "Back Stabbers" DIONNE WARWICK: "The Windows Of The World" THE BEATLES: "All U Need Is Love" STEVIE WONDER: "Blowin' In The Wind" THE CHI-LITES: "Give More Power To The People" DIANA ROSS & THE SUPREMES: "There's No Stoppin' Us Now" NILLSON: "Everybody's Talkin'" THE MARVELETTES: "Message To Michael" THE JACKSON 5: "I'll Be There" EDWIN STARR: "War" THE SHANGRI-LAS: "Long Live Our Love!" SLY & THE FAMILY STONE: "Stand!" GLADYS KNIGHT & THE PIPS: "Friendship Train" THE BEE GEES: "I've Gotta Get A Message To U" THE CHIFFONS: "Sweet Talkin' Guy" MARVIN GAYE & TAMMI TERRELL: "You're All I Need To Get By" LUTHER VANDROSS: "A House Is Not A Home" THE ROLLING STONES: "(Hey, U) Get Off Of My Cloud" FIRST CHOICE: "Armed And Extremely Dangerous" SMOKEY ROBINSON & THE MIRACLES: "Abraham, Martin and John (and Bobby)" DIANA ROSS: "Do U Know Where You're Going To?" PAUL McCARTNEY: "Silly Love Songs" M.F.S.B.: "Music Is The Message" FREDA PAYNE: "Bring The Boys Home" THE FOUR TOPS: "Reach Out, I'll Be There" LESLEY GORE: "U Don't Own Me" THE O'JAYS: "Love Train" FRANK SINATRA: "The House I Live In" PATTI LaBELLE & THE BLUEBELLES: "All Or Nothing" EDDIE KENDRICKS: "Keep On Truckin'" THE SUPREMES: "Up The Ladder To The Roof" SIMON & GARFUNKLE: "Bridge Over Troubled Water" MAXINE BROWN: "One Step At A Time, Boy" THE TEMPTATIONS: "Plastic People" MARTHA REEVES & THE VANDELLAS: "Dancing In The Street" THE BYRDS: "Turn, Turn, Turn" SHIRLEY BASSEY: "This Is My Life (And I Don't Give A Damn For Lost Emotion)!" MICHAEL JACKSON: "Leave Me Alone" DIANA ROSS: "Reach Out And Touch (Somebody's Hand)" Suggestion: "It's Your Turn"; add your "message" songs! (Message edited by STONEWALL on May 13, 2004) | ||
Bless You (bless_you) 2-Debutant Username: bless_you Post Number: 13 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 66.41.19.9 |
B.Y.'s message song faves, a Supreme dozen: 1) It's My Turn * Diana Ross 2) If I Ruled The World * Diana Ross & The Supremes 3) God Bless The USA * Lee Greenwood 4) Grandpa (Tell Me 'Bout The Good Old Days) * The Judds, Wynonna & Naomi 5) Take a Look * Natalie Cole (Aretha Franklin) 6) Miracle * Whitney Houston 7) If I Could * Regina Belle (Nancy Wilson) 8) Somewhere * Barbra Streisand/DRS 9) Little Miracles Happen Every Day * Loofah Vandross 10) Coat of Many Colors * Dolly Parton 11) The House I Live In * Frank Sinatra 12) Silent Legacy * Melissa Etheridge And 2 more: Great Expectations * Steven Curtis Chapman Heaven * BeBe and CeCe Winans | ||
Lady Mystique (ladymystique) 5-Doyen Username: ladymystique Post Number: 328 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 216.37.228.106 |
Stonewall...I agree with your list...especially THIS IS MY LIFE by Shirley Bassey! I love all of the songs posted here...but BE FOR REAL IMO is right up there...I mean, talk about a song that gives a message about being true to yourself. | ||
SDF (handsome) 3-Pundit Username: handsome Post Number: 69 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 170.118.158.14 |
Hi. How about: Harvest For The World-The Isley Brothers The Onion Song-Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell What The World Needs Now-Various Artists The World Will Sing Our Song-The Jones Girls Yes We Can Can-The Pointer Sisters We Are The World-Various Artists Reach Out & Touch (Somebody's Hand)-Diana Ross Keep An Eye-Diana Ross (w/ The Supremes too) Where Peaceful Waters Flow-Gladys Knight & The Pips Someday We'll All Be Free-Donny Hathaway People Get Ready-Curtis Mayfield Peace On Earth-Rachelle Ferrell When Will It Be-Anita Baker & Howard Hewitt Up The Ladder To The Roof/Everybody's Got The Right To Love/Stoned Love-The Supremes Dancing In The Street-Martha Reeves & The Vandellas Handsome | ||
ralph (ralph) Moderator Username: ralph Post Number: 181 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 209.240.205.61 |
Hey Juice, Glad you like the song. That's Teddie Morrow in the background. I guess I did that as my own little tribute to Johnny Bristol. He had just died when we were doing the vocals to the song. | ||
Stonewall (stonewall) 5-Doyen Username: stonewall Post Number: 203 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.237.113.74 |
The "m-e-s-s-a-g-e" songs are so interesting and memorable and so much intellectual fun, that I added (thanx for the "add-iting" feature) another baker's dozen of songs! Check out Dr. Stonewall's listing up above. Some will be sung on "M-45"! | ||
Manny (manny) 4-Laureate Username: manny Post Number: 107 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.124.11.144 |
hello again, soulful brothers & sisters! Many coincidences with many songs you all have mentioned as practically all by Curtis and Marvin in the seventies. In Spain, when the "message songs" was not longer in vogue, (in the 80's), a very good spanish group Golpes Bajos, resumed this situation with a song called �Malos Tiempos Para La L�rica� (�Bad Times For The Lyricism��. The most sad is this was in early 80's and the situation today is exactly the same. The seventies is the decade of the music with message (pop, folk, rock & roll, symphonic and experimental rock, funk and soul). Some (IMHO) masterpieces of soul with a message: -All the album "There's No Place Like America Today" - Curtis Mayfield -"Don't Call Me Brother" - O'Jays -"Ship Ahoy" - O'Jays -"When The World Is At Peace" - O'Jays -"Rich Get Richer" - O'Jays -"Give The People What They Want" - O'jays -"We Need Order" - Chi-Lites -"Let's Clean Up The Ghetto" - Philly Int. All-Stars -"Save The Children" - Gil Scott-Heron / Intruders -"You Can't Hide From Yourself" - Teddy Pendergrass -"Wake Up Everybody" - Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes -"Ain't No Stoppin' Us Now" - Gene McFadden & JOHN WHITEHEAD! (RIP) (I believe the lyrics are about the civil rights) -"To Be True Is To Be Who We Are" - Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes -"Let'Em In" - Paul McCartney / Billy Paul -"Man Of War" / The Jacksons -"The Revolution Will Not Televised" - Gil Scott-Heron -"New day new Word Coming" - Billy Paul And many others Peace & Soul Food | ||
Robb_K (robb_k) 5-Doyen Username: robb_k Post Number: 205 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 204.108.65.10 |
Play It Cool (Stay In School)-Brenda Holloway Don't Be A Dropout-James Brown Don't Take Drugs-James Brown Color Him Father-Winstons Let Me Be The Man My Daddy Was-Chi-Lites Stop The War-Edwin Starr War-Edwin Starr Mercy, Mercy Me (The Ecology)-Marvin Gaye People Got To Be Free-Rascals What The World Needs Now is Love-Jackie DeShannon | ||
Satipe (satipe) 1-Arriviste Username: satipe Post Number: 6 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.50.137.38 |
Why is it that the music labels used to love message songs but now shy away from them? Music is a positive way of expressing society's ills and it used to be acceptable but sadly not so much anymore. We need a new Marvin and Curtis as right now there is the rapper 50 Cent is is way short of the almighty dollar. I thank you all for your interest and responses to my note. | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 770 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
Satipe, Kool & The Gang used to say, "Music Is Thwe Message", Gamble & Huff used to say, "There's A Message In The Music". Today, there's a message alright.... the message is money & whatever it takes to get it. | ||
DyvaNaye (westside314) 5-Doyen Username: westside314 Post Number: 367 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 209.212.74.216 |
Interestingly enough Juice...there is not a song, at least not very many that use the word MUSIC in it's title these days...that is because they know they are not making any. LOL. | ||
Satipe (satipe) 1-Arriviste Username: satipe Post Number: 7 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.50.137.38 |
A note to Juicefree You wrote, "They have no hope..." and I agree but also disagree. I am an inner city teacher and I know they want hope but do not know where to find it. I think it is up to us as adults to help. Thankfully, I have music and those who helped "pave the way" to speak with 'my kids'. A lot of famous names but it is people like you and me who can make the true difference. I hope you get to read this note my friend. | ||
Satipe (satipe) 1-Arriviste Username: satipe Post Number: 8 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.50.137.38 |
...sorry Juicefree...I forgot to add my e-mail address as I would like to write further about your note. TSkinner0623@Rogers.Com | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 774 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
Hi Satipe. I'm glad that you get to see the good side. I should ammend my statement to reflect that I'm referring to kids aged 17-21. I thank God that the younger ones are still a bit young to have formed such deep rooted negativity. They are clay that if put into the correct hands, can be molded & formed into incredible adults. That's a good thing & byou are to be commended for taking on a job that's full of minefields & difficult to say the least. My email address is juicefree@hotmail.com. Your comments will be most welcome. Thanks for the ray of hope! We all need it. (Message edited by Juicefree20 on May 13, 2004) | ||
Stonewall (stonewall) 5-Doyen Username: stonewall Post Number: 218 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.237.113.74 |
THE O'JAYS' #1 song message: "I Love Music". M*U*S*I*C Advisory: 96 hours until M-45. | ||
Stonewall (stonewall) 5-Doyen Username: stonewall Post Number: 248 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.237.94.114 |
SDF: This file is too informative, interesting and unique to lose! Plenty new has been added throughout. My posting, for example, has now hit its max of 100 songs -- message songs! | ||
Kdubya (paladin) 2-Debutant Username: paladin Post Number: 21 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 206.185.64.23 |
Uh excuse me, Stonewall but I think Message from a Black Man was by the Temptations.......not the Spinners. Great ,great songs everyone. Did anyone mention King Heroin by the Godfather ???? | ||
Lady Mystique (ladymystique) 5-Doyen Username: ladymystique Post Number: 357 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 198.26.122.13 |
No, but I was about to KDUBYA...you beat me to it! MESSAGE FROM A BLACK MAN is by the Temptations...I think it is on the PSYCHEDELIC SOUL album (if not correct me), unless Motown also cut it on the Spinners as the label were famous for cutting the same songs on different artists. Also, may I mention WAR by the late great Edwin Starr. | ||
Stonewall (stonewall) 5-Doyen Username: stonewall Post Number: 321 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.237.10.142 |
Miss Mystique, isn't this a swell, worthwhile SDF file? "Message From A Black Man" surprises a lot of people that it was originally recorded and released as a single on Motown's VIP Records, prior to "It's A Shame", in 1970 by....... (drumroll) .......: THE SPINNERS. I possess the single. "War" by EDWIN STARR was already mentioned on my list of "100 Message Songs". An incredible message song and powerfully-delivered record. | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 983 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
My favorite version of Message To A Black Man is by The Whatnauts. Brother sounds exactly like Eddie K. If you haven't heard this version, you're missing something good!!! | ||
Manny (manny) 4-Laureate Username: manny Post Number: 163 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.124.11.124 |
Hi again, Pazant Brothers & Clark Sisters! I have forget some good message songs by Billy Paul in my previous posts: �Am I Black Enough For You� �People Power� �America (We Need The Light)� �Let's The Dollar Circulate� Peace & Soul Food |
