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Jimmy Mack (luke)
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Post Number: 130
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I listened to this song today and Im fairly convinved there is a moment where Jean starts to sing but stops herself and the record keeps moving along with this mistake in. I will listen again to pinpoint the exact spot--has anyone else heard this?Of course I could b wrong and its a guitar not Jean but Ive always "heard" it as word she starts to sing and then stops.
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LoveChild (lovechild)
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Really.....thats interesting...im pullout that baby and give it a listen myself.
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Stonewall (stonewall)
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Post Number: 138
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Look at those close-up confident, smilin' SUPREMES in 1970. That's when things were really Supreme again. Actually, at that point, they had never been un-Supreme. They had the great aura of the post-DIANA Supremes, the 100% Motown support (at that time), the public adoration and they surely had the talent, the looks and the unity to keep the balls rolling right "Up The Ladder To The Roof". Of course, there was no Pedro, either.

What a great album cover photo! It's one of my all-time favourites. Plus, it opened up to reveal a full-length photo. Great gowns, too! Inside, there was a separate, full-length, suitable-for-framing, hard-stock, colorful photo. Fast forward to today! Too bad that those three Supremes -- JEAN, MARI & CINDY -- were not =all= three performing on "M-45" exactly one week from today, only the latter two. The fallout from that has yet to hit the street. It will, trust me, once the show airs. WE, the public, still don't have an explanation for why only 2/3's of the internationally famous Supremes were on stage? Even members of several other girl groups at the "M-45" filming thought it was sad!

Love Child, it is really nice that U placed this Supremes pic up here for us all to enjoy. "Right On!" (Notice they were smart enough to put the exclamation mark in the title!) For me, and I'm sure for many others, like "Bobby and Marsha and..." Juice and Spookie, too, it brings back great -- and hot -- memories. After all, "Everybody's Got The Right To Love".



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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
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Post Number: 651
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STONEWALL! I have to say that Everybody's Got The Right To Love was my favorite "Post-Diana Ross" song. I was 10 when that song came out & the vocals seem to sway along. That song brings back some truly wonderful memories of being a carefree kid.

My next favorite would be the '76 Disco classic: Let My Heart Do The Walking. Damn, '76 had some great music & this is one of the most underrated songs of that era.

I will say this: if Diana never appears with Mary & Cindy again, I'd be more than happy to see Ms Terrell, center stage!!! What do you think STONEWALL, Love Child, Jimmy????
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ladylove (ladylove)
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Hi Juice!

As stated on the other thread I will pop an email off to you!

I LOVE up the ladder to the roof! I didn't know there was a mistake in it! I can't catch it!!

Oh well!
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jrlo (jrlo)
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Post Number: 68
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Ladylove (cuz)

I SENT JUICE AN EMAIL ALREADY...NAH NAH NAH NAH NAH....YOU ARE JUST TOO SLOW....NAH NAH NAH NAH NAH...:-)
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Stonewall (stonewall)
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Post Number: 143
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I'm glad that U are revealing THE SUPREMES side of U, Juicey. A lot of real butch HE-men luv The Supes -- especially with DIANA ROSS. It's the ones who might deny that they luv The Supes that U have to wonder about.

To answer your question, J-Man, look at THE TEMPTATIONS. I always did, trust me, and then some in one case. The point is that 5 out of 6 of the original Tempts (counting ELDRIDGE) are dead! We are lucky that we have a whopping 7 out of 8 Supremes alive! So, of course, I, like most everyone, except perhaps paid-up members of the Klan, would luv to see any combination of Supes perform. On "M-45", bi the way, U will see the outcry when people realize they didn't get what they rightfully assumed: 3 Supremes!!!

Re: "Up The Ladder To The Roof" (it's leak-proof; needs no repairs).
Jimma Mac is hearing things -- or should I say, not hearing things.
His real name is not Smith or Jones, boy;
but must be the one and only "Floy Joy".



(Message edited by STONEWALL on May 10, 2004)
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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
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Post Number: 665
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WHat's up jrlo??? What you been in Witness Protection???? I haven't seen you here, how have you been? BTW: Happy Mother's Day to both you & ladylove! If it doesn't apply then Happy Sunday, Monday & Tuesday!

Are you girls having a Pajama Party??? Ok, who's visiting who? Y'all are sure tag-teaming up on a brother this morning!

One last question...................... ..
SPOCK?????

:-)
Juice
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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
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Post Number: 666
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Whoa there STONEWALL!!! I'd hazard a guess that the good old fellas of the Klan love The Supremes. Some things are Klan-proof. I think that the soothing tones of The Supremes would melt their Kold Kold Hearts!

As to the outcry, I hope that it's not too horrific. That would be a shame. Perhaps one day they'll get it right.

As for The Supremes, who could deny either their greatness, or their historical significance? They were great & were huge!

Juice
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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
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jrlo, ooh, you storying, you storying bad! You know you ain't sending nothing, my name ain't Spock :-)
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jrlo (jrlo)
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Post Number: 69
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Posted on Monday, May 10, 2004 - 11:58 am: ��Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey there!!!!!

My cuz and her family live me me and my family! :-)

I sent you an email!! You are at juicefree23@hotmail.com right? Maybe I typed something else! if so...MY BAD!!! :-)
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Randy Russi (randy_russi)
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I love those gowns! They were worn by Diana, Mary
& Cindy on the Hollywood Palace and then I saw
them in person wearing them on April 3, 1969.
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dvdmike (dvdmike)
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I loved Jerry Long's orchestration on "Touch"
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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
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Post Number: 672
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jrlo......juicefree23????? Well that's half right, after all I am 23 :-) It's juicefree@, etc. etc. See, I told you you were storying!!!!

:-)
juicefree...no 23!!!!

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LoveChild (lovechild)
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I will never understand why the powers-that-be didn't at least get Jean Terrell to join Mary and Cindy on "Motown 45".

I get the feeling the only grouping of Supremes they care to acknowledge is the 1960s grouping(s) of Diana, Mary, Flo and Cindy.

I haven't to this day seen any mention of any other Supremes groupings on any of the other Motown Anniversary specials, let alone any clips.
It's as if they never existed.

LOL @ Stoney...I'm curious as to which TEMPTATION you were "looking" at...LOL
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Stonewall (stonewall)
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Post Number: 151
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"Love Child, I'll Always Love U-whoooo, U-whoooo, U-whoooo, U-whoooo"... calma downa, that's song lyrics, Ho! -- ooops, I mean, Poppie!

Re: 2/3s of THE SUPREMES on Motown 45!!

At "M-45", all they had to do from the stage was say: Oh, Miss SCHERRIE PAYNE (in the audience), the =last= lead singer of THE SUPREMES, will U please join two other real Supremes on stage -- MARI & CINDY -- for the "Motown 45" anniversary show so that we don't look ridiculous up here? Scherrie could have answered in the affirmative in song as she slowly and sexily strutted to the stage: "And, now, let me tell U a story about love...."

When Scherrie did "Stoned Love" less than four years ago to over 20,000 cheering, dressed-to-the-nines, on-their-feet fans at the famed Madison Square Garden, I was concerned only that the huge roof would fall in from the sound blast-off and the notes hit and the roar of the crowd. What did super S.P. receive after her powerhouse knock-out rendition of "S.L."? A rocking standing ovation! Not incidentally, she was preceded solo by lovely LYNDA LAURENCE taking us "Up The Ladder To The Roof". Honeys -- and U dudes, too -- I ain't never heard that song sang better and stronger. U felt like U were really going through the roof. L.L. sang it like it just came out last week and was #1 with a purple bullet! And what did Supreme L.L. get? That old Go-GLADYS song result: "Standing Ovation". After those Supreme performers, the invisible announcer declared to tumultuous S.O. applause (paraphrasing): "Now, Miss DIANA, the stage is yours and thanx to the lovely Supremes...." Oh, it was like a massive musical orgasm. I was shocked to realize how many people there were familiar with that line and apparently where it came from! And it was one huge Supremes family who came for the great Motown music and to see 1-2-3 real Supremes (3 of the living 7). I saw Park Avenue dowagers and butch-ass pimps goin' nutz as Diva ROSS' first six musical words sung were "Upside Down, BOY U turn me". Bi the way, among the 20,000* in the audience, in the front row were loyal, admiring, starstruck fans such as Bette Midler, Nick Ashford, Valerie Simpson, Luther Vandross (who joined Diana on stage for the "Endless Love" duet), and so on and so forth, et al., etc. Total: 37 Supreme songs!

Now, fast-forward to "M-45" on May 17th. It's no wonder that our S.D.F. "Count-down to MO-TOWN 45" favorite-artist-to-see-poll is being supremely led by the girlz themselves -- "Stop!": Miss MARTHA "Dancing In The Street" REEVES & THE "Come And Get These Memories" VANDELLAS.


Vizit a listing of all the single-release songs of THE MARVELETTES at: www.STONEWALLvets.org/songsofStonewall-8.htm


------------------------------ --------------------------------- --------------------------

P.S. To ans. the curious "?": Trust me, CL, it wasn't Melvin!








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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
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What's up STONEWALL

Was that a true story about the concert? It sounds like what many have been dreaming of!
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Stonewall (stonewall)
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No, allegedly Free of Juice, it was a totally false story about the concert. Me and the other 20,000+ just dreamed it up. We're "Dream Girls -- and Boys". It was all imaginary. Ask LUTHER, for starters. U live in New York City, U should have been there. Then, after U reported on it, I could have asked U on the internet the bizarre "?": "Was that a true story about the concert?"

In your absence and the presence of 20,000+ others, being in N.Y.C., didn't U see any of the television news shows that evening and night on any of the channels #1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 9, 11 or 13?
Why, included in the big DIANA ROSS & THE SUPREMES news story, they had plenty of action clips from the concert. As people -- including some folks from Bedford-Stuyvesant -- came out of MSG, they interviewed many. Some of the reporters even asked: "What was your favorite Supremes' song that the girls sang tonite"? U didn't see or hear about any of it? Absolutely incredible! And the next day, Juicey, U didn't read about it in The New York Times or the New York Daily News or the New York Post or U.S.A. Today or Newsday or The Amsterdam News or so many others and a few days later in The Village Voice or The Brooklyn Courier or nowhere? People magazine? No? US magazine? No, huh? Amazing! Wait a minute, JF... maybe U weren't in New York City or in America the first week of July in 2000, especially on Thursday evening, July 6th?



U had "egg on your face" (your self-describing quote) as recently as late last night at 3 a.m. when U posted and labeled PAULA ABDUL in a photo (no less) as "MARIAH CAREY"!? -- and I caught it. So, really, what's a whole omelet?



[Note: On this "New Forum" there is now an 'edit' feature. U, Juice, oughta go use yours now!]








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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
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Well STONEWALL, I must admit one thing. Although I do appreciate the music of The Supremes, I can't stand the soap opera that The Supremes have become. As such, I have become quite bored with their entire situation. I never bother to see them. I'd rather listen to their music occassionally. That seems to be the only way to hear the girls in harmony.

The only reason that I asked is because it seems that everyone talks about how disasterous the tour was. However, I would have preffered Mary, Cindy & Jean getting some props up in there, know what I mean???

Hey, don't hate me cause I didn't know about this! Keep the info flowing, keep it flowing. I'm playing catch up here, to paraphrase Mathis & Williams: 4 years, too little, too late. I stand accused!
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Jimmy Mack (luke)
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Oh come now--everbody loves a good drama. Look at Pete Rose and baseball, John Fogerty and CCR, Yoko and the Beatles(Paul said his conflict with John created better music, Keith and Mick the same--did u read Keith's recent comments about Mick and they still perform together!)Dave and Ray of the Kinks etc etc etc--its passion boys and girls and high theater--dont take it too seriously--we all do our jobs and live life!(PS for the current chapt--one person who shall remain nameless is responsible for the all the drama ulitmatley-hmmm could it be DR?)
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motownboy (motownboy)
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The Supremes "Right On" is available at iTunes for download. It is part of a special Motown 45 promotion at the website.

Also, I wouldn't be the least bit surpsised if an expanded version of "Right On" is among the first batch of Hip-O/Motown Select releases this summer.....
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Jimmy Mack (luke)
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Thanks Mb--I have Right On on cd from when it was frist released and it's a smashing record--an expanded one gives me chills.
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Stonewall (stonewall)
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"The Stonewall Juice Show" -- currently #1 on the Soulful Dee Board!

Since when is reporting on a sold-out, standing-room-only, historic DIANA ROSS & THE SUPREMES "Return To Love Concert" a "soap opera"? Since never! And if it were, so what? Now if someone here reported -- the inside scoop -- on a concert by some more obscure group like TOP SHELF or some hapless has-been like SOUPEY SALES, U wouldn't think it was a "soap opera", would U? What I'm saying is that too many people have double standards -- especially when it comes to anything Supremes (past, present or future). In this matter, Juicey, U are simply mixed-up and I'm not. At least U have the gutz to bring it to the surface. However, U know more about softball and fishing; I know more about hardball and the Girl Groups -- ALL Of them! That includes THE ANDREWS SISTERS, before I was born! Perhaps the evening I was at the D.R.S. concert with over 20,000+ others and ALL of the news media, U may have been e-mailing several women telling them how fine they were, even if they look like they escaped from "Return to the Planet of the Apes" and how women are the best thing that God ever created. Actually, HE didn't create "women", HE created females (check the birth certificate). To use your expression, "I don't play that". In any case, HE first created males and, I agree with God, that is my "First Choice". [Another great female group!] Butt, I don't flaunt it all over the Board like U do -- in each and every file each and every day! How would U like to see file titles that read: "Stonewall, here's MICHAEL's number".

Back to the D.R.S. concert, U, Juicey, are mixing pineapples and bananas (pun intended). U are talking about several planned "RTL" tour locations where the ticket prices were too high, thus enough seats were not sold and they cancelled those particular venue locations. All dat is not the fault of Miss ROSS or the Easter Bunny. In case anyone doesn't know, Di does not set the ticket prices. So, when U have a lower personal spending budget city, IMO, like Houston, Texas, where they are more used to a concert "reunion" like ARCHIE BELL & THE DRELLS for $12 not THE GLAMOUR GIRLZ for $60. (or more). Please don't anyone do "The Twist"! I like A.B.D. Anyway, that was not the case in New York City, Philadelphia, Toronto, etc. Thus, D.R.S.'s show in NYC was not "devastating". On the contrary! I can even still smell the herb smoke! U didn't have to lite-up. U just had to be there. In brief, it was "The Happening".


U also stated that U "don't bother to go see them anymore". Well, no kidding! Is there anyone on this Board or, for that matter, in the whole wide world who goes to see THE SUPREMES? Juice, they didn't have a concert for nearly a quarter-of-a-century from 1976 until the next century in 2000! And guess what? U missed it! Knock! Knock! What are U talkn' about? What U said is equivalent to declaring that U don't go to see The Beatles concerts anymore. Think about it!

Funny Juice: U wrote that U are "bored with the entire SUPREMES situation". Ha-ha-ho-hum. It's quite obvious that U are not "bored". Anyone on this Board think that JF is "bored" with The Supes? Juice, I don't even know any drag queens more interested in The Supremes than U. Amen go rite there, "J". That's not bad; it's good. That's why I'm communicating with U and not them.

Wasn't that cute.... uh, oh, U won't like dat word. Tough! "Don't hate U". I don't hate U and U know it, so don't try for the sympathy ploy here. We're confusing some people enough aready. U did give a real mouthful when U acknowledged up above that U are "playing catch-up here". I agree and I am helping U.




P.S. Thanx for your e-mail. Some things can't be "posted".


P.P.S. Guess who I s/w this eve? That's rite! Oh, yes, she did!







(Message edited by STONEWALL on May 11, 2004)
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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
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Hey STONEWALL!!! I just want to go on record as saying that I liked Soupy Sales.

Now, if there was a thread that offered you Michael's number, I would read it, because I know that it's going to be quite funny & I would enjoy watching the verbal sparring that would transpire. I believe that it would be great entertainment & I'd laugh like crazy!

Now to address the soap opera: It wasn't the concert that was a soap opera. That must have been a great experience. It's the other 20 years of bullshit that I'm speaking of. Star or no star, Diva or no diva, I'm simply tired of the cat fights, the shoving of people on stage & the rest of the nonsense that's been transpiring over the last 20 years. It's tired, it's boring & it's beneath all of them.

That's the soap opera that I'm referring to & any true Supremes fan should be tired of all of the in-fighting as well. Frankly, I am bored with it all. Life & music has gone forward. I didn't say that either have moved on for the better, but moved on it has. They need to move on as well.

They need to put aside the pettiness & the egos. This type of behavior annoys me in a child, it disgusts me when adults display this type of behavior. Yes, I find it boring & as far as drag queens are concerned, I can't speak for them. However, I can say that as far as I'm concerned, I'm far more interested in The Supremes' past, than I am in their present!



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Stonewall (stonewall)
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"The STONEWALL JUICE Show" -- still at the top of the SDF Charts! And, soon to open their own file!

Regarding SOUPY SALES, so did I like him, Juice. Were U insinuating that I didn't? Don't go there! As kids, I remember that he was crayzee-er than us. Plus, I did "The Mouse" all around the house. Seemingly, U did too, Juice, eh?! And the pie in the face. How funny was that, huh?

Regarding "MUSIC, MICHAEL & ME", there wouldn't be any "sparring" unless sparring to U is...........! Besides, "Michael & Me" wouldn't be on the boards, if U know what I mean! U know, maybe U don't know what I mean because you're on them constantly. That's kool, it's better than booze or drugs, though some probably can handle all 3 -- or 4.

Juice, no vulgarity when discussing D.R.S. is permitted, so "Stop!"

As I objectively observed in a prior post directed to U, Juicey, U are not tired of nor bored with the vast and interesting subject of DIANA ROSS and/or THE SUPREMES. U just want me to repeat my line, so here it goes to make U happy: U, Juice, are into D.R.S. even more than any Draq Queen that I know. And U are (into it, not a D/Q)! Oh, glad U reminded me. There were plenty of great looking, classy Drag Queens at the D.R.S. concert, too. Several even came as Diana look-a-likes. There were also a few sets of D/Q trios all wearing the same gown, like The Supremes. Very clever and wild!!! This show was going as people first arrived. The show started out on Seventh Avenue, trust me. In case I haven't said it: D.R.S.'s "RTL" was by far the best concert I ever attended. It had me high for the entire Summer of 2000 -- and obviously with a "(Return To) Love Hangover". And I don't wanna get over it. Don't want a doctor. A nurse is worse. Say that one again. A nurse is worse.

What "in-fighting"? How can people be in- fighting if they don't even speak? Think about it. U remember the MARY WELLS post-Motown hit, "Use Your Head". And "shoving"? Whatchu talkin' bout, Ju? U talkin' about a little momentary gesture from over 20 years ago? C'mon, Juice, you're can't be all that bad. Why, U describe the non-incident and her as if it were the fatal "Reverend" GAY scene.

Don't think, Juicey, that U don't once-in-a-great-while make me laugh, too. When U just wrote above that U "can't speak for drag queens", that is funny! :-)

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I personally am looking forward to seeing the Original Supreme Mary Wilson, along with Ms.Cindy Birdsong and yep Kelly Rowland do their thing on Motown 45. I loved Scherrie Payne, but the public does not know her so her non-appearance is inconsequential. This will be the first time we'll see Mary and Cindy performing together since Motown 25 (over 20 years ago) so it will be a historic moment in my opinion. Go Mary!!!
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Regarding RTL, I remember when they announced that it would not be playing here on Long Island, that it had been cancelled the night before right after the Madison Square Garden show.

Ticket prices aside,hardly anyone wanted to see this show if Mary Wilson and Cindy Birdsong were not performing with Diana.
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Stonewall (stonewall)
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Marv...

Perhaps re-read, or internet search engine, the news stories from the "RTL-2000" in NYC! It is un-Supreme-like, inaccurate and unfair to state that "hardly anyone wanted to see this show" when the facts prove otherwise. At just this one fabulous show on July 6, 2000, there was a "sold-out", loaded 20,000+. I was raised in Long Island -- elementary school, high school, clubs, college, graduate school, etc. -- and I was embarrassed that in 125 miles of very big Long Island, where D.R.S. reigned Supreme, that they couldn't fill all the seats at the Jones Beach Theatre. We know the tickets were pricey; not the fault of the girlz. The majority who had tickets were most devasted with disappointment. They have my continued supreme sympathy. Obviously, U didn't purchase a ticket to see DIANA ROSS & THE SUPREMES.

We sure agree that we are all looking forward to see both Supreme MARI and Supreme CINDY. U seem to cut off in 1969 your interest in Supremes on stage. As U know, no =new= Supreme of the 1970s is a "houshold name". That is unrelated to quality performers. The "public" couldn't currently name any of THE TEMPTATIONS, THE FOUR TOPS, BOYZ II MEN, et al. Therefore, U are totally wrong in writing that Supreme SCHERRIE's non-appearnce on "M-45" is "inconsequential". Actually, she "appeared" at "M-45" as she was, of course, invited. We're talking about performing on stage to complete the group. On the contrary, the glaring absence of a third Supreme is very consequential. It's like missing a wheel on a car! Everyone will see that grossly mistaken ommision on Monday eve on the Motown 45 show and read all about it throughout America, and far beyond, on Monday night on the internet and Tuesday morning in the newspapers. Also, if U think "the public knows Little Girl Kellie Whatsherbname", U are kidding yourself. However, U sound smart enough not to believe that. U want to see 2 Supremes. We'll up ya one. Everyone else would have much preferred to see 3, then they could have been properly and accurately billed as THE SUPREMES. Now, its "2 former Supremes and a girl".


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U said it Marv perfectly. Hartford show cancelled as well---after an expected big start it collapsed.(An industrty expert said it was the biggest tour disaster in the history of SFX at least). It was amazing how many people were calling in radio stations to complain about Cindy and Mary missing(I heard it for myself on a NYC station-ktu I beleive-it was incredible). I dont know of any big drama besides Diana pushing Mary and RTL. Relax all--its just theater ultimately.
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Thanks Jimmy Mack, I know I am right. I have been a fan of The Supremes and all of Motown since growing up in the Detroit area in the early sixties. He may have been embarassed by the lack of support on Long Island for RTL, but I was proud of Long Island and the show of integrity! They can blame it on ticket prices, buth heck this is NY and if it's something we really want to see, prices are not the overall determining factor. One of the ladies that works for ticketmaster was interview on the local news here during the time of the cancellation. Her response was typically "New York". She responded "serves them right, they should have gave Mary Wilson the money she wanted"!!! LOL


That same month RTL was cancelled I attended Mary Wilson's "Dare To Dream" lecture here on Long Island. I spoke privately with Mary about the tour situation and she seemed to take it all in stride. The public however, was not having it.

Later that summer, Mary performed at an outdoor concert here on L.I. and if you could only have heard the comments coming for the audience in support of Mary and her stance and the total disgust with the way that tour was arranged you would have been shocked that everyday Long Islanders even cared enough to follow the story.
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Any way, "Up The Ladder To The Roof" is a great song. A classic and one of my all time favorites by The Supremes!
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Marv, you are so right! Had RTL been making oney, it would never have cancelled. People can say all they want that plenty of tickets were sold, and it was cancelled just to make Diana look bad... but that is so patently ridiculous, there is NO WAY a promoter is going to sacrifice millions of dollars in profit by cancelling a money making show just to make someone LOOK BAD... in the greedy world of the music, honey, that's one thing that never happens. The tour was hemorraging cash, it's a matter of cutting your losses before you lose any more.
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Stonewall (stonewall)
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Topic: Stonewall & Juice (a very unlikely duo) discuss DIANA ROSS & THE SUPREMES -- this is part of the lead up to fast-approaching "M-45".

Hey, Juicey J, I'll continue with U. At least U now know the difference between a particular concert vs. an entire tour. Some must think that if one state has the "Purple People Eater's Disease" that all of America must have it. So, I'll respond to a couple more of your unanswered "?"s. U stated that U would have preferred to see "JEAN, MARI and CINDY" up there on stage at Madison Square Garden getting props. Well, number one, U didn't have a ticket to see anybody. Number two, JEan & The Supremes could not have filled M.S.G. in 1970 much less 30 years later in 2000. And, number two, part of what U still don't get, no "Girl Group" in the world could fill the ultimate Madison Square Garden except for DIANA ROSS & THE SUPREMES. Perhaps some may think it could have been filled by CANDY & THE KISSES or others, but the reality (something missing in parts of some other posts) is that is why M.S.G. -- and hundreds of other arenas and the largest theatres -- never booked any other pop or soul girl group but Diana Ross & The Supremes.

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I agree that RTL was cancelled because it wasn't making money, BUTT "not making money" is not the same as "no one wanted to see it". Fact is, if Diana had done a corporate sponsorship/partnership for the tour (which she hasn't done for any of her tours since leaving Motown), it would have been a piece of cake to make money. Most major stars partner with either Coca-Cola or Pepsi-Cola or Target, or some other big company to promote a tour. The star (Tina Turner or whoever) does commercials for the product or chain, and lets the big "Coke" sign be displayed prominently at the concert, and in exchange, Coke puts money into the tour. Diana has stated repeatedly throughout the years that she does not want to do tours this way. Remember at Central Park, she stated in "Secrets of a Sparrow" that she in effect wants to be the only product being sold at her concerts! Now, 20 years ago, you could do a tour that way - it's like how Motown was the last of the great indie labels, but in the 90s and today, you can't start up an indie label and expect to be able to compete, and with tours a star of ANY magnitude needs a corporate sponsor. That's just how business is done nowadays - it has become bigger and bigger. I think Diana has made a mistake in not partnering up with corporate sponsors. This is what has worked for Tina Turner (Hanes, Pepsi, Target) and if Diana had done RTL this way, she and Supremes Scherrie and Lynda would have had a long and profitable tour, so much so that many people would have been like "Who were those other two girls Diana Ross used to sing with in the 60s???" (scratching their head)!!

Personally, my opinion, for what it's worth, is that Diana needs to quickly and permanently get over her distaste for corporate sponsorship. So what if there is a big neon bottle of Coca-Cola lit up above her head? As she once sang (with Mari and Flo in the background) "Things go better with Coke!!!!"

Imagine if RTL had any or all of the following corporate tie-ins:

Coca-Cola: 'Nuff said!
Hanes: Di's gams can compete with Tina's any day of the week!
MAC Cosmetics: If RuPaul can do it, honey, so can her idol, Queen Di!
Copa: The hair care product for black hair - she could kick butt over Debbie Allen any day!
FuBu...
DisneyWorld...
The Bible...
I Can't Believe It's Not Butter! (aka "I Can't Believe It's Not Mari and Cindy!"

Supremely Yours,

Bless You ;o)
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AlphanGuy: An imbecile knows that if something doesn't make money, it folds. That includes a lemonade stand. No one here said otherwise. U wrote like U discovered a cure for cancer. And Marvin (at least I have the courtesy to say his name not write "He") is "soooooooo right"? About what? That Long Island had "integrity" for not buying enuf tix to D.R.S.? How crayzee is that? Does that mean the over 20,000+ at M.S.G. -- and elsewhere -- had "no integrity"? What about LUTHER? He was on stage dueting with his Queen DI! That must make him a master criminal based on Marvin's "thinking". Anyway, IMO, Marvin is "absurd" in his non-statement. A few of U clealy are glad that the entire tour was not a success and cancelled. Sounds awfully demented to me. None of the performances were criticized, they were praised to the sky. Butt U-3 oddly don't menetion that. I don't have to wonder why and neither does anyone reading this.

How crayzee was Marvy's statement? Well, U out did him in bizarreness, Afghan. I never heard the lunacy U related that "they" (who are "they") cancelled the tour to make DIANA look bad? Nobody could make Miss ROSS look bad, certainly not even U 3. It's very unclear as to exactly who U are all criticizing except to be criticizing. Sadly, for some poeple that's a way of life. Save your criticisms for M-45 when 2 former Supremes and an unknown girl appear.


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Tony Russi (tony_russi)
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I saw the RTL show at an almost sold out concert in Tampa, Fl.and I thought it was great!!I was NEVER a big Supremes fan, especially after Florence was out of the group but at this concert Diana was absolutley GREAT...Scherrie Payne was always a great singer and she fit the Supremes image. Yes, its too bad that Mary Wilson & Cindy Birdsong were not a part of this as it then would have been an historical event. I blame the collapse of the tour on the promoters and not having the proper sponsorship but also Mary & Cindy missed a great promotional opportunity.Diana Ross has always been a hard worker and why wouldn't she have been the star?I was always a bigger fan of Martha Reeves & The Vandellas & the Marvelettes (my brother Randy loved the Supremes).I loved the early Supremes 3 part harmony.
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Vonnie (vonnie)
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I have a copy of the Diana Ross and the Supremes Greatest Hits Album, it is a 2 album set with 3 individually autographed colored photos of the Supremes. I will try to post the photos. Florence Ballard
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Here is a picture of Diana Ross from the album.Diana Ross
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Vonnie (vonnie)
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And at last but not least, my favorite Supreme of all, Mary Wilson. Mary Wilson
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Stonewall (stonewall)
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Greetings Tony with an R. --
U are "right on" the money. I know at least a dozen people at that very show U were at in Tampa -- including my Mother, God Bless her. I said if U don't go see DIANA ROSS & THE SUPREMES right there on the West Coast of Florida then I'll never come to Florida again to visit U! Tony, everyone described the super Supreme concert exactly as U did, Supreme -- and then some! To read some people's posts -- none of whom went -- U'd wrongly thing that all the concert dates were cancelled. They surely were not. Glad U heard the group and solo singing of SCHERRIE and LYNDA, too. Those are two powerful Supremes!! Next stop: Philadelphia y'all.

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Dear Vonnie --
U come with the recommendations of The Juice Man and I see why! That is great. FLORENCE! One of the 3 suitable-for framing portraits included in the DIANA ROSS & THE SUPREMES "Greatest Hits" album. We're lookin' for DIANA and MARY. Anyone who wanted to hear the Supremes songs that Flo sang on had the great oppotunity to hear them. D>R>S> sand each and every single-realeased recor including "Who's Lovin' U?" and then everyone on from "LOvelight". Of course, Diana mentioned Flo and did a moving tribute to her. And now, we're gonna do Flo's favorite....

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Victorious Vonnie -- now all 3 (D/M/F) are up and in time for M-45!

Now, the Supreme SUPREMES trilogy is complete. Lookin' at those pix: "U Bring Back Memories". U look at those wonderful portraits and U can picture D.R.S. singing "My World Is Empty Without U", for example, as well as the flip, "Everything's Good About U".


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Thanks Stonewall,

I'm glad you liked the pics. IMHO the Supremes were the first true Divas.
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What was truly idiotic was SFX investing millions into a product (Diana Ross and The Supremes Tour) and not taking the time to research and understand the importance of key ingredients(i.e. Mary Wilson and Cindy Birdsong).

What business have you heard of that would invest that kind of money and not really know and understand what they are getting. In the case of RTL, they got Diana Ross and two women she had never performed or recorded with EVER.

Ironically, the sole person that Diana Ross, Scherrie Payne and Lynda Lawrence had in common, was missing... Ms. Mary Wilson. If you recall Diane, Lynda or Scherrie had never been in the group The Supremes together at any time, in any combination.
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Thanks Vonnie for posting those memorable paintings of the girls.
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I think I know where you are talking about...I think it is on my 45...I will have to listen to it.
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"Merv" -- Who's "DIANE"? U must know someone we don't?

P.S. The fact that 3 particular SUPREMES had not been a particular line-up together prior is totally immaterial and irrelevant. It's an absolute non-issue. U mean that with THE TEMPTATIONS that DENNIS EDWARDS couldn't.... Oh, fahgedaboudit! It's a pathetic waste of time talking to U! Like a song on the 1st album of D.R.S.: "Never Again". The bottom line is: Those 3 Supremes have performed together now big time: DIANA, LYNDA & SCHERRIE.



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Oh it is totally relevant when the promoters and Diane went out to public originally characterizing this tour as a REUNION TOUR of the Supremes. They later changed their ploy once Mary and Cindy were not accepted/declined etc to "Return To Love" and it's about the Musssicc bull. LOL How can you have a reunion of people that have never been together before? Strange but true...... We all know what happened and as they say, the rest is history.

I am finished now.
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Michael/Cleoharvey (cleoharvey)
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This argument has been fought all over the internet for the last few years. We should release and let go and move on. Diana Ross, Mary Wilson, and Cindy Birdsong were Diana Ross and the Supremes... no argument, just fact. Diana Ross with any other ladies is not a reunion of Diana Ross and the Supremes but Diana with two back-up singers. The public spoke loudly and the tour failed. The fact that there were a couple of sold-out shows does not make a successful tour.
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I dont unserstand what the big deal is if people want to talk about it if they want(tho I agree with your facts per the tour). If people dont want to discuss it just to dont/and dont read it. Beatles fans do it; baseball etc fans discuss similar stuff;horse races from years ago are still discussed as is history--and some people are into Motown,Surpemes etc history. Relax everyone-its just a hobby. People still debate historical stuff,then there are revisonist theories etc. Lets just share with civility.
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Hi, again, Michael.... on a different subject from our last (which was nicely about "Mother's Day, and the derivation of your name in tribute to your mom). That's why I'm surprised and very disappointed in U now....

Too many words are being stuffed in other people's mouths, not just mine.

> Firstly, this DIANA ROSS & THE SUPREMES subject is gonna be talked about for many, many years to come, long after all of us are dead, so get over that. Be realistic! We're not gonna ever release the subject -- especially on your orders. People should stop lying; it's that simple. As long a there are liars to lie, there will be a 100 more to tell the truth and correct the lies.

> As I keep saying over and over and over, we all know the 2004 D.R.S. tour was cancelled. No one said it wasn't. But why gleefully keep repeating it over and over and over. Many tours get cancelled, It even happened years ago to MICHAEL JACKSON. For me, the fact is it wasn't canclled where I saw it! It was the best show we ever saw by anyone ever.

> Some alleged Supremes fans who are not-too-nice seem to relish in the fact the the tour was canclled. IMO, that is stupid and nasty. I think OTIS REDDING's fate and that of his bandmembers was a tad worse, eh?

> Any other girls, other than DIANA/MARI/FLORENCE, who were/are in The Supremes are Supremes. For U to say that JEAN TERRELL wasn't/isn't a Supreme is ludicrous. Likewise for Supremes LYNDA, SCHERRIE and SUSAYE. That's ridiculous. What group do U think Jean was lead singer of? The Dairy Queens? It's false for U to say that Supremes are not Supremes. A personnel change does not negate the group. It is on-going. LEVI has a stroke and with an instant, MCH tells them they are no longer THE FOUR TOPS. That's really sic (pun intended). What group do U know that has ALL original members? No doubt, none!People do change career options and as U also know, they die.

> Why minimize and inaccurately say there were only a "couple" of sold out D.R.S. concerts? That's a patent lie. There were many. If U want to exaggerate, do it in the other direction and say there were a hundred instead of ridiculing the legendary Supremes' legacy.

> Again, no one said that several successful concert dates makes for a total successful tour. Likewise, it does not make for a total "disaster" either -- especially when U know that very well from the media then and even people on ths Board now.

> The public sure did "speak loud": at the D.R.S. concerts I was at in Manhattan, Tony Russi was at in Tampa, Foxworth was at in Philadelphia, Baby Love was at in Toronto, etc., etc.... the public spoke loudly and roared, Mr. M.C., with applause and standing ovations and so on and so forth. If U hate the post-Diana Supremes, stop`attempting -- and failing -- to ruin it for the rest of us on SDF? It won't work. That negative crap has not worked in 35 years as of this yaear! Like a bridge, get ooooooooover it.



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Stonewall,

The answer to your question, "What group do you know that has ALL original members"?

The Dells and The Flaming Embers
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Stonewall (stonewall)
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Alllrite, Miss VONNIE VEE. "There Is!" U answered the question. Wait until I tell Juicey that it was U who solved this historical music question. Right now, he's too involved with that "Idol" posting file, which I reluctantly posted on once but "Never Again" (D.R.S.). It is so off track and, as M.J. sang, "Off The Wall". Thanx mucho for the 411, Miss V.

By the way, speaking of musical history, one of THE DELLS' songs was actually at the now famous Stonewall Club in 1969. Appropriately, it was: "I Can Sing A Rainbow"!






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Vonnie (vonnie)
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Stonewall,

The song "I Can Sing A Rainbow" is awesome and indeed one of my favorites.

Hooray for the Rainbow Coalition!
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Stonewall (stonewall)
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SDF: U like fresh, supreme news, folks? Well, here it is:

Congratulations to SUPREMES lovely LYNDA LAURENCE and super SCHERRIE PAYNE. Both of these legendary Supremes -- they ALL are -- have won the legal right to use the name "SUPREMES", which they, of course, are. Hopefully, they will get a third Supreme, namely MARI WILSON, and resume recording, television appearances and, most of all, touring! This is yet another golden opportunity to reunite The Supremes and it is more non-sense that has been wiped like crumbs off the table. "Oh, by the way, pass the biscuits, please". Again..... Congratz to ALL of The Supremes. "Amen".

We can hopefully once again go "Up The Ladder To The Roof"!



To view the single-release songs of D.R.S.:
www.STONEWALLvetsorg/songsofSt onewall-6.htm



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alphanguy (alphanguy)
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Stonewall, who said that the tour was selling enough tickets and it was cancelled to make Diana look bad? SCHERRIE PAYNE said it, in interview on WOMR last year, so that's where that was coming from. And the performances weren't criticized? MSG was such a flawless, fabulous show? Were you in the ladies room when Diane forgot the lyrics to the entire last half of "The Happening" and kept singing after the orchestra had stopped? How unprofesional, certainly not the high caliber of performance she gave when I saw her in 1991, now THAT was a flawless performance, something I'd expect from a musical LEGEND. She performed in RTL as if she were tipsy, and now as we all know, she was... tequila shots to get her nerve up to go onstage, how sad... if it had come to that for me, I'd simply retire.

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Bless You (bless_you)
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I love "A Heart Is A House For Love" from the film 'The 5 Heartbeats'. It hit in '91 and it was great to see a veteran soul group - with yes all the original members - receive their props!

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Stonewall (stonewall)
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"Bless U, Bless Me" [End of sentence!]

Are U on the wrong file at this magic moment? What do the 5 HEARTBEATS have to do with "Up The Ladder To The Roof (So We Can Be Closer To Heaven)"? Or, maybe it was just a ploy to keep garbage at bay.

Where's the well-deserved congratz for THE SUPREMES? For lovely LYNDA and super SCHERRIE -- the two best back-up Supremes ever?! Anyone whoever heard them -- especially see and hear them as in the "RTL" tour -- knows that. With MARI hopefully singing "Surrender" soon, the three of them =S/M/L= can get back on track ALL aboard the "Love Train"!!!

"It's a shame" that it all wasn't done before "M-45". Maybe the segment with two legendary Supremes -- MARI and CINDY -- trashed by an interfering, barely-talented, barely-dressed, slutty-looking ho-ish "Baby Girl" will be labeled as "Ho-town 45" so as not to destroy the image of the rest of the two-hour special. U know, if they had gotten BEYONCE (very Diana-ish) who is a real great-looking, highly-talented, sexy, successful lead singer, the public could deal with it as a 'combining of then and now'. They'd get the connection! It was done years ago between THE ANDREWS SISTERS & THE SUPREMES singing each other's songs. And all 3 women from each group were on stage. Meanwhile, now, The Supremes are supposed to sing "Love Child", not ludicrously have one in their group!





(Message edited by STONEWALL on May 15, 2004)
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Weldon A. Mc Dougal III (weldon)
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The Supremes, getting down
the Supremes
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Wonder B (wonder_b)
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Some 70's promo pics...
70's01
or this one
supremes26
or
Sup70's01
How about some drawin'n'shootin'??? LOL
Sup17

Hope you like those...

Wonder B
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John Lester (theboyfromxtown)
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That last pic...

Do not forsake me oh my darling...on this our wedding day-ay..Do not forsake me Oh my darling...wait, wait a little while.....

Oh how I loved that version of the song....I have seen it being performed (on TV) just the one time and I would do anything to see it again.

It was a from a TV show with Bing Crosby and I think Jose Felicano...at the end, those acts all sang songs together. An RCA acetate exists of that song but I recorded it on a tape to tape machine back in the day when it was first shown on British TV. It was so rare that we got to see the Supremes on TV so any time they were on TV was special.

Thank you for posting all those pictures but especially the last one..simply because of the wonderful memories it holds for me.
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Wonder B (wonder_b)
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John you are luckier than I am cos' I never even saw that program... I was happy with my little pic, but now that I know there's much more where that came from, I am about to cry!!! LOL LOL LOL

Why is there so few vintage programs available on DVD today... so much immortal stuff that is just sitting on the shelves... starting with all the Soul Train programs...
We have talked about it at lengths on the old forum, and I know the video rights are harder to get than almost anything else, but I hope some day people will think about us old time fans and put something on the market...

Just like that French program with the Four Tops recently available on DVD... I got it a few days ago and yes the sound is not excellent, and the picture could be better, but still I enjoy those moments because there's almost nothing available where you can see these guys at the top of their art...

Wonder B
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Uptight (uptight)
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Jimmy, I remember the part in Up The Ladder to The Roof you are talking about. At the 1:23 point in the song, it sounds as if Jean is starting to sing the chorus prematurely and waits for the proper time to continue. "If...if... if you'll come...up the ladder to the roof."

Meanwhile there was a guitar with a wah-wah effect ad-libbing throughout the song. At the point in question, she and this guitar sound alike! I would lean toward it being the guitar because it would seem unlikely Terrell would stutter or sound unrehearsed in the middle of a recording session.
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Stonewall (stonewall)
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The leader of THE SUPREMES repeats the "If... if... if" quite deliberately, sort of like "Wait... wait.... wait a minute...." Repetition is usually quite effective in lyrics. I always thought that brief part was quite obvious in "The Ladder" and never gave it a second thought. Quite frankly, my dear, I'm surprised that would even somehow enter anyone's mind. What next, counting grains of sand? Jima-39, are U on any mind benders, perhaps? Also, before U question the repetition of a word in SHIRLEY & COMPANY's song, let us assure U, our tortured creature, that it is quite intentional: "Shame, Shame, Shame" -- and that's in the title! Want another, Gyma? Allrite, let's have one by DIANA ROSS & THE SUPREMES: "Run, Run, Run" -- and that's what I gotta do! "Bye, Bye Baby". Oh, MARY, U repeated!


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marv (marv)
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Hey thanks Weldon and Wonder B. for the great pics of the girls. Brings back so many nice memories for me.
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Stonewall (stonewall)
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Uptight's gotta be so right, allright!

It was ludicrous for Jimma Mac to think that the pros at the Almighty Motown would have let that go by -- they wouldn't. And, it was ridiculous to herein start an entire file on the word "if". Surely, we must have better things to discuss, such as M-45, than "if". Anyway, I, for one, regarding this file, am "Over and OUT"!

Meanwhile, we'll all to get to see 2 of the 3 SUPREMES from that "Up The Ladder To The Roof" song tmo eve on M-45. Wonder why no explanation as to why JEAN (the "if" girl) isn't w/ MARI & CINDY??





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Wonder B (wonder_b)
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Huh... hum... Stonewall... I don't want to sound rude, but Weldon DID provide a pic... LOL It's just in the post before mine with the pics... LOL
L-OO-K!

Wonder B
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Stonewall (stonewall)
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Wonder Bee,

U know I enjoy 411 and a sense of humor! U sho 'nuff ain't "rude" for pointing out something wrongly stated. One of my SDF palz (not even someone who posts) said there was a message from U so I came back to see it. Thanx for letting me know. I somehow thought that was part of your display. Your pix grabbed my eyes! Anyway, that middle pic of THE SUPREMES is my favorite and "somewhere" in my house storage, I have it! It's very Supreme!

I'll have to give a shout out to Weldon, too. Pix are swell!



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Wonder B (wonder_b)
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Yeah Stonewall... I knew it was funny!!!! LOL
Yes just like you I love pictures...
Almost as much as the records!
Here's another of the SUpremes with Berry G

Sup+BG

Wonder B
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marv (marv)
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Mary and Cindy were GREAT tonight! So were Smokey, Gladys and Thelma Houston

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