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  Jimmy Mack (luke) 4-Laureate Username: luke Post Number: 101 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.198.48.201 |
Can anyone name all the Peaches'?Y have there been so many?? | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 518 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
Ok Jimmy, I'll give it a shot. The Original Peaches was Francine Barker of the Date girl group The Sweet Things.Around 1967, she stopped performing on shows & for live shows, Marlene Mack filled in for her. Herb Feem became a Policeman in 1970 & returned to music in 1975. The third Peaches was Linda Green. They were a team from 1975-1986, when Herb again, retired from music. The fourth Peaches was Patrice Hawthorne, who teamed up with Herb in 1992, when he again tried a comeback. So, here's the list: Francine Barker: 1966-1970 Marlene Mack: 1967-1970 (Live Performances Only) Linda Green: 1975-1986 Patrice Hawthorne: 1992-Present Juice | ||
Randy Russi (randy_russi) 3-Pundit Username: randy_russi Post Number: 40 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 169.139.180.100 |
I saw Peaches & Herb on a R&B package tour in the spring of 1968--Jackie Wilson, Impressions, Bar- bara Mason, 5 Stairsteps, Emory & Dynamics, MC was Gorgeous George. Many others were on this bill. It was Marlene Mack who performed with Herb and their set was really good. "Close Your Eyes" really brought the house down. | ||
Stonewall (stonewall) 3-Pundit Username: stonewall Post Number: 42 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.237.26.43 |
Why have there been so many PEACHES? Because HERB "canned" them! | ||
LoveChild (lovechild) 1-Arriviste Username: lovechild Post Number: 10 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 209.42.40.145 |
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!! ROTFL!!!!!!!!! U so crayzie! | ||
Tony Russi (tony_russi) 3-Pundit Username: tony_russi Post Number: 64 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.18.35.54 |
Stonewall, your too cool dude.Anyway, who was "Peaches" on the recent PBS show? | ||
Soul Sister (soul_sister) 5-Doyen Username: soul_sister Post Number: 397 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.43.147.99 |
I remember Herb's last name to be Fame, Juice. (?). Randy, I saw them live at a few shows in the 60's. I liked Francine Baker's voice the best. I remember them at the Apollo when they walked thru the backstage door, Herb stood out wearing a green suit with green allegator shoes (the Floresheim style) that was so popular back then. S.S. | ||
Nosey (nosey) 3-Pundit Username: nosey Post Number: 62 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.153.113.238 |
Hey Juice: I kinda know Patrice via her mom. I did a comedy skit at her mother's birthday party over this past winter. Patrice is performing with a top 40 type band and playing mostly hotels and cruise ships. She's a great performer. | ||
Nosey (nosey) 3-Pundit Username: nosey Post Number: 63 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.153.113.238 |
I thought Herb's last name was Feemster. Oh well, Fame, Feem, Feemster, same difference! LOL! | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 523 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
Hi Nosey! His name is Feemster. My bad Soul Sister, Fame is his stage name, don't'cha know. I guess that Peaches & Herb Feemster just doesn't have that ring to it, you know? (Message edited by Juicefree20 on May 04, 2004) | ||
Stonewall (stonewall) 3-Pundit Username: stonewall Post Number: 47 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.237.26.43 |
Oh, "Tony the R", U are a "Riot". I'll tell U what. I'll give U the last name of CANDY from THE KISSES. It's NELSON. The last PEACHES who I saw was young enough to be HERB's greatgrandaughter. By the way, old Herb's next Peaches should be the one... the only... the too tall... Miss RuPaul! "Shake Your Groove Thing". Won't Herb be surprised? Or, maybe he won't! ------------------------------ ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Reminder U all: Plz. do the "Countdown to M-45" survey. See the file! "Love Child" of SUPREMES fame chose -- no, not The Supremes but -- GLADYS KNIGHT & THE PIPS (a competing "girl group")! I like that in a way, that takes soul... and gutz! And, not to be outdone, our "Jimmy Mack" of M.R.V. fame chose "The Supremes". Go figure!.... I mean, go V-O-T-E! (Message edited by Stonewall on May 04, 2004) | ||
Vonnie (vonnie) 4-Laureate Username: vonnie Post Number: 79 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 151.205.179.131 |
Juice, Is Patrice Hawthorne, the Peaches that appeared with Herb on the PBS Special last year? | ||
Eli (phillysoulman) 5-Doyen Username: phillysoulman Post Number: 225 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.236.62.124 |
That was yet another Peaches. I know patrice and that wasnt her either. Woudnt it be a hoot if her surname were Cobbler! | ||
Tony Russi (tony_russi) 3-Pundit Username: tony_russi Post Number: 68 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.18.35.54 |
Yes, I didn't think the Peaches on the PBS special would have been Peaches in '92 as she looked to be about 21-22.I thought she was very good & cute too. | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 539 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
On the agency website that employs them make no mention of another singer other than Patrice. I'll try to dig up some info, as he was on a VH1 special a few years ago with yet another Peaches. If I can dig up the tape, we may learn the identity of the latest "Peaches". If I remember correctly, it might have been his daughter, unless I have my Disco show profiles mixed up. | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 540 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
Ok folks. The latest Peaches is Miriamm Wright. She joined in 2002. Here's a link to their website: http://www.peachesandherb.com/ index1.html (Message edited by Juicefree20 on May 04, 2004) | ||
Jimmy Mack (luke) 4-Laureate Username: luke Post Number: 103 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 64.12.116.138 |
I remember seeing Herb and the first Peaches-I think it was on American BAndstand and Peaches looked like she'd rather be anywhere but there-never a smile--it was very strange--no wonder she stopped performing. Did she keep singing on the records? | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 542 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
Yes, yes continued singing until their last hit, When He Touches Me, Nothing Else Matters. Marlene Mack filled in for live shows only. The original Peaches & Herb disbanded in 1970. | ||
Stonewall (stonewall) 3-Pundit Username: stonewall Post Number: 55 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.237.95.154 |
U know, originally I was gonna have "peaches" as dessert tonite; however, after reading this entire file, I switched to bananas -- rather than go it! | ||
Tony Russi (tony_russi) 3-Pundit Username: tony_russi Post Number: 70 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.83.152.221 |
Thanks Juice, the latest Peaches did a real good job on the PBS special. I thought Marlene Mack was a very good singer in person and looked good on stage.My favorite record by them is still "Lets Fall In Love" | ||
Vonnie (vonnie) 4-Laureate Username: vonnie Post Number: 86 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 64.12.116.138 |
When I saw the PBS Special with the present Peaches, she looked like she would rather be somewhere else. There was no chemistry between the two of them. The age difference definitly showed. When I see a duo between a male and female my mind imagines that they are really connected, and the song is about their connection(love). This pairing IMHO had no connection whatsoever; it appeared to be very platonic, almost fake. Marvin and Tammi had the connection that made you feel they really cared about each other. | ||
Tony Russi (tony_russi) 4-Laureate Username: tony_russi Post Number: 71 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.83.152.221 |
Vonnie, you are correct...however,I don't think Peaches & Herb were ever in the same league as Marvin & Mary, Marvin & Kim, or Marvin & Tammi.I did like some of Peaches & Herbs 45's.Actually, I thought the young lady was Herbs daughter but I thought she has a good voice(and looks) & did a good job on the PBS show. | ||
Moe (moe) 3-Pundit Username: moe Post Number: 70 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.140.73.33 |
In 1978 I saw Peaches & Herb. They opened for Barry White in Dayton, Ohio. So I guess it had to be Linda Green. They were great together!! | ||
Wonder B (wonder_b) 4-Laureate Username: wonder_b Post Number: 152 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.248.163.229 |
Me, I liked that one best...  Wonder B If you mess with the 'fro, you gotta go! | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 552 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
Looks like Wonder likes Linda Green  Tony R: anytime my friend! Yes, she did a superb job. I was too young to remember Marlene. I never saw them live, so I never saw her. No one seems to remember Francine Barkers solo recording. I hav an MP3 of it. I don't recall it's name off-hand. I believe that it's title has something to do with "DJ" something or other. Vonnie, personally speaking I thought that it was ridiculous. It looked like Father Time with his student! The age difference is too great & when I heard them sing, I'm thinking "re-united what" Not to be rude but, considering the age difference, the only thing that I can imagine them reuniting is him reuniting her with a bottle or rattle & her helping him reunite with his Doans Pills or his Ben Gay. It's simply not believable when it appears that you're singing to your niece, or worse, your daughter. Poor choice of Peaches Herbie old bean. In this case you must definitely, pardon the pun....cling to the Peaches! I guess that those royalties are still coming in, she sho iz a fine filly. Herbie, you's sho NAAAASTY!! My hero!!!!! | ||
Robb_K (robb_k) 4-Laureate Username: robb_k Post Number: 165 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.81.198.85 |
I only remember Francine Barker. She may not have had the "classic" good looks of the woman in the photo, but she was very good looking, too. But, more importantly, she had one of those naturally beautiful voices that can send you to Heaven. She also knew how to use her voice as an instrument. Of course, being such a great singer is a very good advantage, but she also had the good luck to work with one of the greatest writers and producers ever, Van McCoy. For a guy like me, who likes sweet melodies and solid, smooth but soulful voices, she was perfection (in a similar vein to Barbara Lewis, Barbara Green, Dee Dee Warwick, Erma Franklin, Gloria Lynne, and Valerie Simpson-very soulful, but also very smooth). I wished to have someone like her sing me to sleep every night. The best evidence of this great combination of sweetness, smoothness and a soulful enough vocal is heard on the following cuts: "Don't Come Looking For Me" (w/Sweet Things)-Date 1504 "Baby's Blue" (w/Sweet Things)-Date 1522 "Don't You Know Love When You See It"-Columbia 44614 I could have easily listed "Baby's Blue" as one of "My five all-time favourite records" in one of the alternate 5 combos. As all of those 80 others were, it is perfect. | ||
Robb_K (robb_k) 4-Laureate Username: robb_k Post Number: 166 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.81.198.85 |
I forgot to mention that Francine had one of the most beautiful and infectious smiles I've ever seen. | ||
Robb_K (robb_k) 4-Laureate Username: robb_k Post Number: 167 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.81.198.85 |
I think Van McCoy and Ed Kapralik were both looking for a love song duet team for Van's great songs such as he sang together with Kendra Spotswood and others ("Jack and Jill", etc.). Herb Fame and Francine Barker both worked for McCoy and Kapralik at Columbia/Date (Barker with The Sweet Things). They were both hand picked for that job because of their voices. They probably hadn't even known each other. Herb was far too old for Francine. She was just a kid. Herb had had a pretty good release on Date before they were teamed up ("You're Messin' Up My Mind"). When they broke up in 1970, Francine only had the one solo release on Columbia (as far as I know). | ||
Jimmy Mack (luke) 4-Laureate Username: luke Post Number: 108 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 64.12.116.138 |
Someone should have told Francine to smile on Bandstand because she looked miserable!I still remeber it all these years later it was so bizarre. Did she have stage fright?Is that y she left yet continued to record? | ||
Robb_K (robb_k) 4-Laureate Username: robb_k Post Number: 169 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.81.198.85 |
It must have been tough to pretend you're lovey-dovey with someone you hardly know and don't feel that way about. That, and being a young kid, who probably had some stage fright too, may have been the reason. From what I remember about the music business, I would bet that the innocent, nice young girl probably got turned off to a lot of elements of it. That might have led to her not having the stick-to-it-iveness to gut it out and make a career. I hope she had a family and nice life after she quit The Business. (Message edited by Robb_K on May 05, 2004) | ||
Stonewall (stonewall) 4-Laureate Username: stonewall Post Number: 79 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.237.95.154 |
Toni -- U don't wanna be "Out In The Streets", do ya? What's missing from your MARVIN duets list above, stating correctly that PEACHES (whichever #) & HERBIE were not in the league with MARVIN & MARY, MARVIN & KIM and MARVIN & TAMMI? What's missing is analagous to naming SANTA CLAUS' reindeers and leaving out RUDOLPH! Quick, who sang "Rudolph" on the "P.S." (I never spell out his naughty -- since the murder -- name any more) Xmas album? Was it DARLENE LOVE? Was it THE RONETTES? Was it BOB B. SOXX & THE BLUE JEANS? Was it THE CRYSTALS? Was it CANDY & THE KISSES? Or was it "P.S." himself (like he did on "Silent Night")? MARVIN & DIANA -- the biggest star by far of all the girls -- is who was missing from your list. I'm very surprised at U. Plus, right after Mary, MPG also dueted with that "unreleased" woman. Soon, Diana will be the only survivor of Mr. GAYE's recording partners. Stonewall.......... "(Not) A Quiet Guy" (Message edited by Stonewall on May 06, 2004) | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 559 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
I must say that those duets that Marvin did with Oma Page were horrible. Rilleh was really horrible & I can see why it was never released. Their duets were truly not worthy of his talent! | ||
Stonewall (stonewall) 4-Laureate Username: stonewall Post Number: 81 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.237.95.154 |
Title: No Juice for Oma! -- it's time to turn the Page. I never heard Juicey dish an artist like dis b/4! What's gotten into him lately? We won't throw Juice's name into the S.D.F. hat for the "Win Recording a Song with Oma Contest". Uma, Ama, Ema, Ima Goner! Juice Free has declared: "Oma, U are the weekest link". Goodbye! | ||
Tony Russi (tony_russi) 4-Laureate Username: tony_russi Post Number: 78 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 67.32.240.104 |
Those unreleased duets with Oma Page were after Mary left Motown.Stonewall, I'm sorry but I never cared for the duets between Marvin & Diana....they seemed "distant". I loved Peaches & Herbs version of "United". | ||
Nosey (nosey) 4-Laureate Username: nosey Post Number: 82 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.153.113.238 |
Juice you did it again! LOL! Didn't look at it the way you and Vonnie did. Makes sense now. | ||
Stonewall (stonewall) 4-Laureate Username: stonewall Post Number: 84 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.237.48.160 |
Topic: MARVIN GAYE's six singing partners. TONY "are"! The MARVIN & DIANA duets =were= "distant" -- they were recorded in two different states (CA & MI) about 2,000 miles apart and then mixed!! This technique is not unusual, as U know. How about the SINATRA duets? Hey, Ol' Blue Eyes! Nonetheless, M&D's "You Are Everything" and "Love Twins", as just two examples, are supreme. As far as that other MPG duet woman goes, we thought it was "After MARY" left in 1964 when the M&M two duets were simultaneously out on the charts but Marvin recorded his first duet w/ KIM in 1964! And Marvin also recorded w/ OMA UMA in 1964? Three different duet partners in one year! That is a music history 'record'. Wow!!! Plus, psychologically, WE (I actually consulted w/ 3 other Boarders via e-mail) were trying to put AMA as far in the past as possible. By the way, whereas Juice had a problem w/ EMA's voice, I had a problem w/ IMA's appearance vis-a-vis the sexually healing GAYE. It just looked unreal and unbelievable -- and it wuz. No wonder M&O had zero public appearances together. Personally, my favorite Marvin duets were with his first partner(s)... MARTHA REEVES & THE VANDELLAS, yielding three Top 10 singles. I especially luv "Hitch Hike" -- besides "Stubborn Kind Of Fella" and "Pride And Joy". There's no question that his best by far -- anyone's best -- were his legendary recordings w/ TAMMI TERRELL. As U know, T.R., "Ain't Nothing Like The Real Thing". At the time in 1964, I thought that "After Mary" exited stage left, Marvin should have been paired w/ Miss BRENDA HOLLOWAY. * * * * * 40 Years Ago Today: "What's The Matter With U Baby?", "My Guy" and "Once Upon A Time" -- all at the same time!!! At one point, ALL 3 in the Top 10 simultaneously. Sounds like some kind of record there. | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 586 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
Tony, you're right about that. The fact that they didn't even RECORD together shows in the feel of that LP. The closest to passion or chemistry they have on that LP is on My Mistake. The songs sounded so milquetoast & polite, totally devoid of passion. It was cool, no sparks overall. Actually, this LP was so boring & bland, it could have been a Richie-Ross LP. I hated Endless Love as well. If that song was a shoe, it would still have no soul (sole). They had pretty much a mutual dislike for one another. Most of us have read of Marvins' feelings toward Diana & the "Star" treatment. Marvin had an ample ego of his own & was a star in his own right, riding high off of the successes of What's Goin' On & Let's Get It On. He definitely wasn't feeling Dianas' "I'm A Star" routine & reportedly delighted in bustin her literal "balls". As I recall, she was pregant at the time & he enjoyed inhaling a certain all-natural product & blowing the smoke in the air, while they were in the recording studio. Due to this, it was arranged for them to record their parts separately. The most fitting description of this affair was the LP cover. They are posed facing back to back, facing away from one another. Pretty accurate description of the LP...180 degrees out of sync! Juice | ||
Tony Russi (tony_russi) 4-Laureate Username: tony_russi Post Number: 83 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.210.0.146 |
Juice, I hear ya about "Endless Love"...IMHO one of the worst records ever to be released by the "real" Motown.I think Diana Ross & Marvin Gaye truly loved each other as fellow original Motown artist but by the time they made the LP together they were both into their own "star" roles with their own quirks. | ||
Vonnie (vonnie) 4-Laureate Username: vonnie Post Number: 95 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 151.205.162.52 |
I agree with you Juice, there was no chemistry between Marvin and Diana on "Endless Love". There was more chemistry between Patti LaBelle and Michael McDonald singing "On My Own", even though they were videotaped in separate locations. Figure that one out. | ||
paulie3$hoes (paulie3hoes) 1-Arriviste Username: paulie3hoes Post Number: 9 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.236.47.122 |
eh, youse wanna know about sole, jus ask ol paulie (over here) i got t'ree times more sole den dem guise got (over dere), capice??#$%^&* my man sammy he got more sole den dat!!! geez wen he duz dat mister bojanglez he got lotsa sole in dem feet, catch my drift?#$ not fer nuttin but i hear dat he had t'ree shoes too, capice??#@$%^&*( | ||
Don (don) 4-Laureate Username: don Post Number: 128 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.78.26.48 |
I loved Peaches and Herb's single of "United". It sounded so Philly-ish that it gives me goose bumps when I hear it on the dusties stations. The song is so fresh, it's always like for me hearing it for the first time. Didn't The Intruders also recorded this great Philly inspired song? Don | ||
Robb_K (robb_k) 5-Doyen Username: robb_k Post Number: 218 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.81.19.92 |
Don: United by The Intruders is a different song. | ||
Don (don) 4-Laureate Username: don Post Number: 131 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.77.33.224 |
Thanks again Robb K. | ||
Don (don) 4-Laureate Username: don Post Number: 140 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.176.147 |
I must've been thinking about their The Intruders "Forever"? | ||
DyvaNaye (westside314) 5-Doyen Username: westside314 Post Number: 394 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 209.212.74.216 |
Juice: 'All Natural Product'...lol... | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 880 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
Hey Dyva!!! Now there you go!!! | ||
Nosey (nosey) 4-Laureate Username: nosey Post Number: 111 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.153.113.238 |
Hi Don. The song by Peaches and Herb is Reunited. | ||
Don (don) 4-Laureate Username: don Post Number: 156 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.174.68 |
Thank You Too Nosey, say where you been? | ||
Robb_K (robb_k) 5-Doyen Username: robb_k Post Number: 231 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 204.108.65.10 |
Don was correct. Peaches and Herb sang "United" first, and later did "Reunited" a few years later, as sort of an "answer" or "continued story" song. | ||
Tony Russi (tony_russi) 4-Laureate Username: tony_russi Post Number: 114 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.18.58.26 |
I thought "United" by Peaches & Herb on Date Records was the same song done by the Intruders on Gamble( I thought the Intruders did it first)My memory must be slipping.ELI, help! | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 908 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
Tony, it is the same record. The Intruders did it first. They charted on 7/9/66. P&H version didn't chart until 6/1/68. They did a "continuation of the story" Reunited in 1979. I hope this helps! (Message edited by Juicefree20 on May 18, 2004) |
