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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
6-Zenith
Username: juicefree20

Post Number: 420
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 24.46.184.162
Posted on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 7:30 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The latest case of classic song murder, finds Lenny Williams Cause I Love You being mangled. BET was on & on Spring Break, Twista has joined in on the aggravating fad of speeding up ballads. Lenny has become the latest member of The Chimpmunk choir. Someone really needs to do something about this. Sampling is great when done right & accentuates a song. This crap is just being thrown together for no rhyme or reason & is just plain dumb! This is no way to treat those classics!
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scandie (scandie26)
1-Arriviste
Username: scandie26

Post Number: 9
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 198.81.26.46
Posted on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 7:37 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh yes they really did give this one a work over its pretty scarey,its most definitely mangled I agree with you juice
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Eli (phillysoulman)
5-Doyen
Username: phillysoulman

Post Number: 173
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.236.49.145
Posted on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 7:38 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thats the "production" style of Kanye West, the grossly over hyped self absorbed flava of the month dude.

BTW.. whatever happened to Rodney Jerkins??
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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
6-Zenith
Username: juicefree20

Post Number: 421
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 24.46.184.162
Posted on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 7:43 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Bobby E! Get Paulie, get somebody! Please!!! Man, this is getting sickening. At least we can rest safe in the knowledge that The Embers won't sound like that :-) Kanye again??? Yeah, I heard what he did to Distant Lover, at least he showed some restraint with that one. I had to tell my son where Kanye ripped it from. Maybe this will be all done with by Summer, it's getting real tired, real fast!

Peace!
Juice
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Eli (phillysoulman)
5-Doyen
Username: phillysoulman

Post Number: 174
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.236.49.145
Posted on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 7:49 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cant you just picture a Kanye produced version of Mind Body and soul, huh???
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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
6-Zenith
Username: juicefree20

Post Number: 423
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 24.46.184.162
Posted on Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 8:00 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

They'd have to outlaw it! The hypnotic effect would cause seisures throughout the free world. Maybe it could be used as weaponry. I'd send a copy of that to Afghanistan. If that wouldn't make Mr Laden surrender, I don't know what would! Of course, you know what would happen next!!! Kanye for president! Can't wait to hear his remix of "Hail To The Chief"!!!!
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1wicked (1wicked)
2-Debutant
Username: 1wicked

Post Number: 14
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 24.126.64.72
Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 1:02 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Rodney Jerkins ? I think it was Deborah Cox that recently stated that she was going in the studio with him. I guess it had to be someone that wasn't "hot" this time.....
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NYC Diva (nyc_diva)
2-Debutant
Username: nyc_diva

Post Number: 17
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 205.184.159.108
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 7:34 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey Juice...Hate to say it but we'd better get used to it. R&B has been going through a decline during the last 10 or 15 years and it appears to be no end to it...which is why I rarely listen to any thing on the radio now because it just does not appeal to me. Give me the old school stuff anyday over this crap!
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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
6-Zenith
Username: juicefree20

Post Number: 511
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 24.46.184.162
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 8:19 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey Diva from NYC!!! All I have to say is:

Well I'm gonna be, well I'm gonna be, we'll I'm gonna be, well I'm gonna be, well I'm gonna be-ee....REAL SICK....REAL SI-I-ICK.

Thanks for getting back to me fellow New Yorker!
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zebop (zebop)
2-Debutant
Username: zebop

Post Number: 17
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 152.163.252.166
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 9:40 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm tired of hearing those "chipmunk" songs too. If they move on to Al Green's catalog, somebody's getting hurt.
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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
6-Zenith
Username: juicefree20

Post Number: 512
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 24.46.184.162
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 9:49 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What's up Zebop!

Teena Marie samples an Al Green LP cut on her new single. I think it's La La For You, I'll have to get to you on that. She only sampled the music, so it doesn't sound like chipmunks. Actually, it's pretty tastefully done.
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sideburnslim (sideburnslim)
3-Pundit
Username: sideburnslim

Post Number: 46
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.41.175.175
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 12:09 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

How about Method Man/M.J> Blige sampling M. Gaye and T. Terrel's "Youre all I need (to Get By)"...That was very tasteful...I thought
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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
6-Zenith
Username: juicefree20

Post Number: 519
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 24.46.184.162
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 11:08 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What's up Slim!

That was cool, it wasn't a straight ripoff & they added other elements that made the song work well. They didn't ripoff the song note for note...it was done well.
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zebop (zebop)
2-Debutant
Username: zebop

Post Number: 18
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 64.12.116.138
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 4:09 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey Juicefree, I'm going to be on the look out for that Teena Marie song. I certainly don't have any problems when the sample is used well but I remember P. Diddy did an Al Green sample, and it was horrible.
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Eli (phillysoulman)
5-Doyen
Username: phillysoulman

Post Number: 226
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.236.62.124
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 4:19 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Since there is such an onslaught of kanye West 'Chipmunk records' I think that I will do the reverse and record some horribly slowed down samples so that maybe we all could just sleep thru the remainder of this bull doo doo!!
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GOAT (goat)
3-Pundit
Username: goat

Post Number: 60
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 64.228.144.159
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 6:13 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Please check out the Sampling Thread.

When will this nightmare stop??
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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
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Username: juicefree20

Post Number: 534
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 24.46.184.162
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 8:27 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The thing about this chipmunk crap is that it's not new, much less, original. Back in 1988, a Rapper called Positive K & Mc Lyte had a song called I'm Not Havin' It. In that song, they used a sample of Turn Off The Lights by Teddy Pendergrass. Believe it or not, it actually worked in the context of that song.

This new speeded up crap however, is ridiculous. There's just no rhyme or reason for this. The closest to decent use is Kanye's song where he samples the "every night" portion of Distant Lover.

Bobby, I hate to say it, but the internet is flooded with these so-called "screwed" songs. They slow down songs so much they sound like a 45 playing at 33 1/3. Let's pray that they stay underground. If not........
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Brian T. (mrclemma)
2-Debutant
Username: mrclemma

Post Number: 15
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 216.0.242.72
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 8:35 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Maybe we're just old, square and don't get it.


Then again, maybe these young whippersnappers need to be tied to a chair and dissuaded from ever attempting such things again(by use of common sense and cattle prod).
-Brian T.(turning into his father)
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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
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Username: juicefree20

Post Number: 536
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 24.46.184.162
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 8:56 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Frankly Brian, no, we're not that old. They're the ones who don't get it. The point that they're missing is that a sample should be like an adornment. It should be tasteful, classy & accentuate & flatter the song. If it sounds ridiculous, distorted, or, out of place, it simply doesn't belong.

Juice
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Lady Mystique (ladymystique)
5-Doyen
Username: ladymystique

Post Number: 299
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 192.108.124.40
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 12:20 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

NO CREATIVITY!! AND it is being sold by the millions!! WHAT A SHAME!!

I am APPALLED at how music is now...I mean, where is the ORIGINALITY? I am surprised that the sample was sold to someone else to destroy. Again, WHAT A SHAME!!

Everytime I hear Twista's song, I want to kick my TV/radio in! :-(

Eli, if you need a partner, let me know...I am experimenting with that right now! :-)

(Message edited by ladymystique on May 12, 2004)
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Eli (phillysoulman)
5-Doyen
Username: phillysoulman

Post Number: 321
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.163.57.135
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 12:42 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lady M,

Anytime you aould like to collab on something, my dor is always open.
Just let me know and I will be more than happy to oblige.
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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
6-Zenith
Username: juicefree20

Post Number: 735
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 24.46.184.162
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 6:21 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey Lady M, now this is a collabo, I'd love to hear!!! I can imagine it now. Hey Bobby E & Lady M, I want an advance copy! Now if you happen to have a part for a Barry White type spoken rap..... :-)

(Message edited by Juicefree20 on May 12, 2004)
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Lady Mystique (ladymystique)
5-Doyen
Username: ladymystique

Post Number: 326
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 216.37.228.106
Posted on Wednesday, May 12, 2004 - 10:15 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Eli...cool, man!:-)

Juice...mr. ZENITH...I got your email! :-)
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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
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Username: juicefree20

Post Number: 761
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 24.46.184.162
Posted on Thursday, May 13, 2004 - 6:00 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Very good Lady M. Now about that Barry White type interlude for your debut song....Right On, Right On for the talkin' :-) Lady M, you'll like Bobby, he's cool!
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Soul-Brother (soulbrother)
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Username: soulbrother

Post Number: 90
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 217.234.185.136
Posted on Friday, May 14, 2004 - 3:48 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

To quote Betty Wright:
That Ain't Sampling!
That's Stealing!!

Barry
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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
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Username: juicefree20

Post Number: 844
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 24.46.184.162
Posted on Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 2:03 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Soul Brother: I second that emotion!
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Mark Speck (mark_speck)
2-Debutant
Username: mark_speck

Post Number: 24
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 199.183.107.174
Posted on Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 6:45 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I gotta wonder...what would Alvin, Simon and Theodore think about these chipmunk-sounding records? ;)

Best,

Mark
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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
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Username: juicefree20

Post Number: 859
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 24.46.184.162
Posted on Monday, May 17, 2004 - 12:29 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

They'd sue for copyright infringement!!!! Not to mention cruelty to animals. Where are the people from PETA when you really need them???

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