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Soul-Brother (soulbrother)
3-Pundit Username: soulbrother
Post Number: 51 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.234.156.171
| Posted on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 8:44 am: �� | ��� |
In another thread 'Country Soul' was mentioned..and I for one am a sucker for it. In the 60's & 70's it was normal for a soul singer to take a country track and add that'bit' more. One listener to my Radio Shows wrote telling me he loves soul but his wife is a country fan..and they could never enjoy music at the same time.I played them a track from Joe Simon! Another Joe (Tex) was another who was never afraid to steal from the redknecks! Any views or other favourites? Barry |
Tony Russi (tony_russi) 2-Debutant Username: tony_russi
Post Number: 27 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.210.9.177
| Posted on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 9:07 am: �� | ��� |
"Almost Persuaded" by Etta James, "He Called Me Baby" by both Candi Staton & Ella Washington and "Stand By Your Man" by Candi Staton.Those are the first that come to mine. |
john dixon (john_dixon) 2-Debutant Username: john_dixon
Post Number: 28 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.58.196.3
| Posted on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 9:45 am: �� | ��� |
As you mentioned, Joe Simon, with "The Chokin' Kind", written by the dean of Country songwriters, Harlan Howard. Someone else who sang Harlan Howard songs and sounded very soulful doing so was Patsy Cline. I mentioned on the Joe Tex thread the other day that one of my favorite lesser known cuts by him is "Grandma Mary", which is very country. And don't forget Arthur Alexander. After cutting "You Better Move On" at Muscle Shoals (the first hit for Fame Studios), Arthur cut his other county soul classics like "Anna" and "Everyday I Have to Cry Some", among others, in Nashville. |
Tony Russi (tony_russi) 2-Debutant Username: tony_russi
Post Number: 28 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.210.9.177
| Posted on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 9:55 am: �� | ��� |
John, you are correct about Harlan Howard he also wrote "He Called Me Baby". |
Eva (bigswede2002) 2-Debutant Username: bigswede2002
Post Number: 19 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 130.237.171.253
| Posted on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 10:15 am: �� | ��� |
Hi Soul Brother, Ah, that's a nice topic! I will return later on with my usual suspects (this thread has been a perennial on the SS list!), but for now I'd like to throw in some great songs that C/W songwriter Jim Weatherly wrote for Gladys Knight. Of course, Gladys and the Pips performed these songs in their own inimitable way, but I still think that they have retained some of their country "flavor"-and they're all classics, IMHO. Neither One Of Us Best Thing That Ever Happened To Me Midnight Train To Georgia Where Peaceful Waters Flow Love Finds It's Own Way The Need To Be Once In A Lifetime Thing Between Her Goodbye And My Hello Storms Of Troubled Times Where Do I Put His Memory The Going Ups And The Coming Downs Eva
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Kevin Goins - KevGo (kevgo) 3-Pundit Username: kevgo
Post Number: 52 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 64.115.136.66
| Posted on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 10:25 am: �� | ��� |
Arthur Alexander also recorded for John Richbourg's Sound Stage Seven label at the same time Joe Simon was making hits for the company. Another example of "Country Soul/R&B" was the vocal group All-4-One's versions of "I Swear" and "I Can Love You Like That" - both were originally recorded by country singer John Michael Montgomery. Kevin Goins - KevGo |
Soul-Brother (soulbrother)
3-Pundit Username: soulbrother
Post Number: 52 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.234.156.171
| Posted on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 11:54 am: �� | ��� |
Another guy who was ideal for singing Country Soul was Percy Sledge..fine versions of 'Take Time To Know Her', 'Just Out Of Reach' & 'Today I Started Loving You Again' James Carr's classic 'Dark End of the Street' was a soul track first.. but the songwriter was a 'Down Home' Country Boy who wrote some of the greatest soul songs ever.. Dan Penn. Hardly a wonder that Country lends itself to soul. Barry
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Tony Russi (tony_russi) 2-Debutant Username: tony_russi
Post Number: 29 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.210.9.177
| Posted on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 1:40 pm: �� | ��� |
Growing up I hated country music(my Dad was a country singer/guitar player).1991 I was bored with the Soul/Rock/Dance music & switched to a country radio station & started diggin the melodies& lyrics & was surprised by the number of quality vocalist that were singing with the same type of feeling that the people I loved sang with.A couple years later I heard this young female singer doing "Piece of My Heart" and in an interview she said that she had never heard the original by Janis Joplin before until after she recorded it.She also made a statement that she loved Aretha Franklin so I called her management and gave them the facts of the song & Erma Franklin and they were very happy oh yea, the country singer was Faith Hill who is now a superstar-and she can really sing. |
Rodmann (rodmann) 4-Laureate Username: rodmann
Post Number: 78 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 12.221.46.129
| Posted on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 2:43 pm: �� | ��� |
Some of the finest examples of Country Soul that I've ever heard were written and produced by Jerry "Swamp Dogg" Williams. He produced an excellent album on Doris Duke in 1970 called "I'm A Loser". The tracks are almost pure Country but still manage to be funky and soulful at the same time! Besides the hits 'To The Other Woman (I'm The Other Woman)' and 'Feet Start Walking' there's also good songs like 'I Don't Care Anymore', 'How Was I To Know You Cared', 'Congratulations Baby' and my favorite 'Divorce Decree'. I'm surprised that these excellent songs weren't covered by some of the female country stars of the time (Dottie West, Lynn Anderson, Donna Fargo, etc). Swamp Dogg had some good Country-Soul tunes on his 1970 album "Total Destruction To Your Mind". My favorites are 'Mama's Baby, Daddy's Maybe' and the should-have-been hit 'I Was Born Blue'. Miss Candi Staton also had her share of Country-Soul gems during her early Fame years including my favs 'Never In Public' and 'I'd Rather Be An Old Man's Sweetheart (Than A Young Man's Fool). I should also add that Barbara Mandrell had huge Country hits with her remakes of Shirley Brown's 'Woman To Woman' and Luther Ingram's '(If Loving You Is Wrong) I Don't Want To Be Right'. Barbara's 'Woman To Woman' is pleasant but she's no match for Shirley Brown. Her take on '(If Loving You Is Wrong) I Don't Want To Be Right' is actually pretty good. Of course it's not as good as Luther Ingram's IMO but I enjoy it a lot more than Millie Jackson's version. Barbara was pretty damn soulful! |
Eva (bigswede2002) 2-Debutant Username: bigswede2002
Post Number: 20 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.226.54.68
| Posted on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 3:33 pm: �� | ��� |
Hi again folks, Sittin' and drinkin' a few beers on a Friday night-what could be better than a lil' bit of country soul?? So here's some of Eva's perennial faves...country's got soul! "Life Turned Her That Way"-James Carr. Harlan Howard's favourite version of this wonderful, moving song. "The Image Of Me"-Johnny Adams. Another great tune about of a life gone wrong. I love Conway's rendition of this one as well. I'm already crying in my beer... "Before The Next Teardrop Falls"-Big John Hamilton/Candi Staton. Fortunately, Big John is there to comfort me! "(Home Just Ain't Home) At Suppertime"-Z.Z. Hill. Ole Z.Z. is missing his loved one as well! "Nobody Wins"-Maxine Weldon. Lovely, wistful rendition of this Kris Kristofferson tune. "She Thinks I Still Care"-Lou Johnson Everybody's cheatin' it seems, especially in country soul tunes. Etta was almost persuaded, but didn't give in...lotsa folks did, though!;-) "Sometimes"-in fact, the guys and gals of "Facts Of Life" are just about to yield to temptation it seems.... "Lovin' On Backstreets"-Freddie North is also down at the dark end of the street... "Hell, Yes, I Cheated"-Johnny Adams isn't afraid to stand up for his illicit love affair! "Standing Room Only"-Kim Tolliver/Gwen McRae. This tune about a good, Godfearing woman being let down by her no-good man was originally recorded by Barbara Mandrell (I think!), whose version is pretty soulful as well, if I remember correctly! "Mr and Mrs Untrue"-Mighty Sam McClain/Candi Staton. The cheatin' saga continues... "Take This Job and Shove It"-Ona Watson. A true blue collar anthem! ...and there's plenty more, but I have to stop now! All the best, Eva
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Soul-Brother (soulbrother)
3-Pundit Username: soulbrother
Post Number: 53 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.234.156.171
| Posted on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 4:15 pm: �� | ��� |
Eva, Mighty fine list sista!..Kim Tolliver.. in my all time top 5 soul deepies. 'Cheated' also one of my favourite Johnny Adams tracks.Big John Hamilton did a whole bunch of country stuff! Rod.. The Dorus Duke album is an essential purchase..cheating, tormented country soul! Y'all woke up to this thread! Barry |
DyvaNaye (westside314) 4-Laureate Username: westside314
Post Number: 143 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 209.212.74.198
| Posted on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 4:35 pm: �� | ��� |
I loved singers who keep it 'down home real' in their music... Otis Redding Joe Tex Al Green Eddie Floyd Johnny Taylor Ko Ko Taylor Latimore Mel and Tim Bob and Earl George Mcrae Luther Ingram there is more... |
Chancellor of Soul (harlem_144) 3-Pundit Username: harlem_144
Post Number: 46 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.207.40.18
| Posted on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 5:19 pm: �� | ��� |
Now there's a great form of music ! Country Soul. I love it's gritty, greasy, and groovy sounds! I would like to finish your list Dyva, if I may............ Jimmy Hughes Carla Thomas Booker T & The MG's Mar-Keys Sam & Dave Percy Sledge Rufus Thomas Bobo Mr.Soul Ann Peebles Willie Mitchell Z.Z. Hill William Bell Wilson Pickett Solomon Burke Barbara & The Browns Jean & The Darlings Bar-Kays The Memphis Horns The Astors The Packers Issac Hayes The Soul Children The Ovations James Brown Don Covay Peace, Mike Boone (Chancellor of Soul) chancellorofsoulcom |
DyvaNaye (westside314) 4-Laureate Username: westside314
Post Number: 146 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 209.212.74.198
| Posted on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 6:10 pm: �� | ��� |
Basically I dont have to say much more...the Chancellor has named all of the greasey pot liquor musicians and singers that I could muster up at this time...lol... but adding: King Floyd Jean Knight Millie Jackson Betty Wright Shirley Brown Gwen McRae Bohannon Jimmy Bo Horne Cornelius Brothers and Sister Rose KC - Sunshine Band
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Rodmann (rodmann) 4-Laureate Username: rodmann
Post Number: 82 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 12.221.46.129
| Posted on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 6:30 pm: �� | ��� |
I'm looking at these lists and I think that Southern-Soul is getting confused with Country-Soul. A lot of the artists in these lists had a southern approach to Soul music but it was still far from Country. The difference IMO between a Southern-Soul song/artist and a Country-Soul song/artist is that a Country-Soul song/artist almost steps over that soulful line into Charlie Pride/Tammy Wynette territory! LOL. Some of the other artists (Bohannon, Isaac Hayes, KC & The Sunshine Band, etc) I don't get being listed at all. I don't mean to be argumentative but I'm just trying to understand. A few more good examples of Country-Soul are Betty LaVette's 'He Made A Woman Out Of Me' and Mitty Collier's 'Everybody Makes A Mistake Sometime'.
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DyvaNaye (westside314) 4-Laureate Username: westside314
Post Number: 150 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 209.212.74.198
| Posted on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 6:35 pm: �� | ��� |
Sure you dont mean to be arguementive...lol... I have my reasons why I listed those people...it is what country soul meant to me. They are people from the 'country' so to speak, and other than the hits we know there are other songs, the B, C, D and F sides on the album that reaches back home, songs that are not really played.I could list them, but look at the artist I named and pull out some of their music and play those 'other cuts' on the album. PS Rodmann, I answered you on the 'What makes a record a hit thread'. No really, PEACE. DyvaNaye |
Rodmann (rodmann) 4-Laureate Username: rodmann
Post Number: 83 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 12.221.46.129
| Posted on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 6:42 pm: �� | ��� |
Sassy! LOL. Dyva, I really don't see anything Country about a lot of those artists that you listed but if you heard tracks that you consider to be Country-Soul than I respect that. That's the problem with all of these music labels, they always mean something a little different to every person. Peace and take care. |
DyvaNaye (westside314) 4-Laureate Username: westside314
Post Number: 153 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 209.212.74.198
| Posted on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 6:46 pm: �� | ��� |
...and I respect your statement too.I hear ya. Peace, DyvaNaye |
1wicked (1wicked) 1-Arriviste Username: 1wicked
Post Number: 5 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.126.64.72
| Posted on Friday, April 23, 2004 - 11:25 pm: �� | ��� |
How about The Commodores' (or was it Lionel solo) "Sail On"....as well as some of the other sides he penned and/or recorded ?? |
acooolcat (acooolcat) 3-Pundit Username: acooolcat
Post Number: 36 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.200.105.227
| Posted on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 3:20 am: �� | ��� |
Arthur Alexander also recorded a country-soul number called Detroit City. I used to have a Bobby Womack album, from memory it was titled "BW Goes CW" - although I think he toyed with the idea of naming it "Black in The Saddle Again." I've recently been listening to a Carrie 45 (originally a Detroit record label - someone sent me it on CD) by Jean & Donnella. It's called "One More Step (And I'll Be There)" and is a is really nice Country Soul hybrid. Does anyone know anything about this disc? It may be a Nashville recording. |
Soul-Brother (soulbrother)
3-Pundit Username: soulbrother
Post Number: 54 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.234.176.38
| Posted on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 4:35 am: �� | ��� |
Rod said: The difference IMO between a Southern-Soul song/artist and a Country-Soul song/artist is that a Country-Soul song/artist almost steps over that soulful line into Charlie Pride/Tammy Wynette territory! Amen Rod, perfect description...Some in those lists I would not even call southern soul..Bohannan and KC for example..and altho I love the Cornelius Brothers sound.. also not really southern. Let's not loose the thread here..of what is turning out to be a good discussion. Someone mentioned Harlan Howard...Joe Simon's 'Yours Love' on the Chokin' Kind' album 1969 is another beauty from this country songwriter as is the opener 'Baby, Don't Be Looking in My Mind'. If anyone is not sure what is meant by Country Soul from Rod's description I'll gladly send them an mp3 per email. Discussion is good, listening is better! Barry |
DyvaNaye (westside314) 5-Doyen Username: westside314
Post Number: 180 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 64.12.116.138
| Posted on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 9:16 am: �� | ��� |
1Wicked, Sail On is exactly what I am talking about. The intro to that song will make you think that it was going straight into 4/4 country timing...then they throw their twist into it. Good call. It is the Commodores paying homage to their roots. Soul Brother: We are not losing sight of what the thread is about, It is about what the individual person deems country soul. These artists listed by myself and others are our interpretation of country soul, and the 'other cuts' made by these artists were done 'country style'...I should have listed the tunes and you would have knew what I meant. Millie Jackson for instance had an entire country album...bearing in mind that these Southern soul artists have recorded country music too. Bohannon in his early career recorded acoustic music with country overtones all in it, in fact it sounded in some cases like it was recored in a barn with loose boards, and folk stomping on it for percussion at a 'hoe down'.That Bobby Womack BW does CW album is a classic and a good example of what I am talking about. Now all the other artists that were listed is recognizable music to me as well...I just think it is all 'interpretation'...I am well aware of what country soul is in your intpretation of it as well as mine. Thanks for the offer, anyway. No harm, no foul. Peace, DyvaNaye
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Ritchie (ritchie) 4-Laureate Username: ritchie
Post Number: 73 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 62.254.0.32
| Posted on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 9:34 am: �� | ��� |
I'm sure some of us remember the actual proposed title for Bobby Womack's Country album, but I'm not willing to stir up another argument over the 'N' word. And, Percy Sledge recorded a genuine Country album in the late 80s - Wanted Again - though I must admit, I preferred his music Country-tinged rather than going for the full boots-and-saddle bit... |
Soul-Brother (soulbrother)
3-Pundit Username: soulbrother
Post Number: 55 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.234.176.38
| Posted on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 10:34 am: �� | ��� |
Ritchie ..good point indeed.. better to 'tease ya' with the country than go full throttle. I love Bobby Womack but his 'Goes Country & Western' is not a great favourite compared to his other classics.The track that does it for me on this album is 'I Take It On Home'. Maybe the fault was in the title 'western' with him setting out to record country.. not soul with a country tinge. Dyva ...My point again was...some artists recorded some Country Soul part of the time..to give examples you really have to list the songs as you said..I see your point about the artist having done an odd track...so.. now after having my head bitten off lol.. I expect at least a sign of affection. The offer of a track was a general one.. for anyone not certain what we are talking about. Barry |
DyvaNaye (westside314) 5-Doyen Username: westside314
Post Number: 184 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 152.163.252.166
| Posted on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 10:38 am: �� | ��� |
Barry, I aint mad add you bruh, but I love a good challange...lol..but I did learn something in what you said, which is my whole aim. I'm not as controversial as I appear...really :-) Thanks for the shout and Peace... DyvaNaye |
douglasm (douglasm) 3-Pundit Username: douglasm
Post Number: 34 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.113.12.67
| Posted on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 10:51 am: �� | ��� |
Acoolcat.... ....that's the Mel Tillis (Bobby Bare) Detroit City, isn't it? |
acooolcat (acooolcat) 3-Pundit Username: acooolcat
Post Number: 41 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.200.105.227
| Posted on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 7:19 pm: �� | ��� |
douglasm, I've never heard the other (original?) version. I had Arthur's 45 on the DOT label, but it was just a bit tooo Country for me. There's a scan of it on the old forum somewhere - but searching "Detroit City" could take a while to find it (smile). |
Manny (manny) 1-Arriviste Username: manny
Post Number: 2 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.124.11.74
| Posted on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 7:37 pm: �� | ��� |
Hello soulful (and country) friends! I likes a lot some country-soul artists as Joe Tex, Joe Simon, Solomon Burke or Dobie Gray, but i likes specially determinate "country-soul" tunes as: -"Drawing In A Sea Of Love" (Joe Simon) -"My Heart Just Keep On Breakin" (Chi-Lites) -"See You At The Go Go" (Dobie Gray) -"Drifting Away" (Dobie Gray) -"Poor Little Fool" (Fontella Bass & Tina Turner) -"The Storm Is Over" (O'Jays) -Many Thom Bell tunes (especially the intro's) as "Sitting In The Top Of The World" by Spinners or "You Are" by Lou Rawls sounds, IMHO, very "country". Peace & Soul-Country Food |
Manny (manny) 1-Arriviste Username: manny
Post Number: 3 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.124.11.74
| Posted on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 7:50 pm: �� | ��� |
Hi again! How I have forget to mention what's perhaps my favorite all-time country-soul tune: "I'm Gonna Stay", by O.V. Wright. Peace! |
Soulaholic (soulaholic) 3-Pundit Username: soulaholic
Post Number: 34 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.41.40.105
| Posted on Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 8:52 pm: �� | ��� |
What about Bad Bascomb - Black Grass pure country soul/ dance |
mel(andthensome) (mel) 4-Laureate Username: mel
Post Number: 71 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.154.129.174
| Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 7:47 am: �� | ��� |
Heres a couple for starters.... Art Freeman everybody gotta cry sometime Fame (country soul around 67ish) Lavern Baker born to love (country soul from the house of) Brunswick records. mel-and his combine-harvester-ooo-arrrrr |
Eva (bigswede2002) 2-Debutant Username: bigswede2002
Post Number: 21 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.226.54.68
| Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 12:48 pm: �� | ��� |
Howdy y' all! I'd like to be able to participate more on this thread with song suggestions etc, but time is real tight right now. I'll just pop in to mention a recent country soul CD, Etta James' "Love's Been Rough On Me". Despite the IMHO sometimes a bit too intrusive guitar work, I really like this CD. Etta James is an absolute class act of course, the backing is good, and the choice of songs great for those of us who enjoy the soul/country mix. My faves are Hank Cochran's "Don't Touch Me" (Bettye Swann also did a lovely version of this one back in the day) and Etta's fine rendition of that old chestnut "I've Been Loving You Too Long". Here's a review: http://georgegraham.com/etjame s.html Eva |
Soul Sister (soul_sister) 4-Laureate Username: soul_sister
Post Number: 127 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.73.160.101
| Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 2:42 pm: �� | ��� |
Eva; I have this album too, love everything Etta does! S.S. |
john dixon (john_dixon) 2-Debutant Username: john_dixon
Post Number: 30 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 64.12.116.138
| Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 6:35 pm: �� | ��� |
Two guys that need mentioning on this thread are Charlie Rich and Ronnie Milsap. Charlie was one of the original Sun Studios trailblazers. Always a very soulful singer. He wrote "Don't Put No Headstone on my Grave" and "Feel Like Going Home", both of which have been covered by more traditional r&b artists. Also worth noting is that Charlie's wife, Margaret Ann, was a fine songwriter herself. Just a couple of her songs that were covered by other artists are "Down and Out" and "Life's Little Ups and Downs". When I first made the transition from being a rock and roll DJ to a country DJ back in the early 80's, Ronnie Milsap could do no wrong. All of his singles were smashes. However, there was still some grumbling at the time from the hardcore country element that Ronnie's sound was "too r&b"! |
john dixon (john_dixon) 3-Pundit Username: john_dixon
Post Number: 35 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.58.196.3
| Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 12:11 pm: �� | ��� |
Eva, did Harlan Howard really say that James Carr's version of "Life Turned Her that Way" was his favorite? Wow, that's the highest possible praise considering there are quite a few versions of that chestnut. I've never heard James' cut but I'm a huge fan of his so I'll have to seek it out. Where can I find his version? I'll bet he truly nails it like no other... |
Soul-Brother (soulbrother)
3-Pundit Username: soulbrother
Post Number: 63 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.234.168.182
| Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 12:33 pm: �� | ��� |
John, Awesome version from James...let me have your email address...mine you can get from clicking my name(in blue).. I'll send you an mp3...if your mail takes them. James did the song at the Poretta Soul Festival when he last appeared there.. a cut of which I have on film...so soulful it hurts!!! Barry |
roger (roger) 2-Debutant Username: roger
Post Number: 28 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.35.87.17
| Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 1:10 pm: �� | ��� |
Hello Everyone. Interesting thread. How about a mention here for GENERAL JOHNSON ( of CHAIRMEN OF THE BOARD fame ) and his song "Patches". As well as the hit version by CLARENCE CARTER there was a great version of it done by B.B.KING with GEORGE JONES .. now that was undisputedly "Country/Soul". And another CHAIRMEN OF THE BOARD song that fits the "country soul" description is "Elmo James". And of course there is MILLIE JACKSON .. notably "If You're Not Back in Love by Monday" And a less obvious choice - JERRY BUTLER - "See if I can't get Momma to Come Back Home". John Dixon .. Are you familiar with the material that CHARLIE RICH cut with Hi records in the mid sixties, .. one of them "Love Is After Me" .. became a "Northern Soul" hit here in England. Roger
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Manny (manny) 2-Debutant Username: manny
Post Number: 11 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.124.11.206
| Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 1:31 pm: �� | ��� |
Hello, soulful friends! Hey, Roger, many time ago without talk with you, amigo! Hope all is well in Britain. Thanks for mentioning Jerry Butler! I forgot to mention another two country soul numbers favorite of mine: -�I'M TELLING YOU� / JERRY BUTLER (Vee Jay) -�EVERYDAY AFFAIR� / JERRY BUTLER & DEE DEE SHARP (PIR) Peace & Soul Food |
john dixon (john_dixon) 3-Pundit Username: john_dixon
Post Number: 37 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 152.163.252.166
| Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 1:43 pm: �� | ��� |
Wow, good one, Roger! General Johnson, I hadn't thought of him as country soul but as a native South Carolinian, I saw the Chairman of the Board about a dozen times in the early 70's. General would always sing "Patches" and make the guys teary-eyed. I remember once at a legendary place in Myrtle Beach called The Beach Club, these two guys were drunk, in each others face, shoving and squaring off to fight. General Johnson started singing "Patches" and they stopped their bickering, as if only for the duration of the song, but by the end they were arm and arm like best buddies! I guess that's what they meant about music soothing the savage beast! I'm not familiar with the Charlie Rich song you mentioned. I have a double CD called "Feel Like Going Home: The Essential Charlie Rich", which I play the hell out of. It has the early stuff like "Lonely Weekends" and "Mohair Sam" and the later, Billy Sherill-produced "Silver Fox" country stuff like "Behind Closed Doors" and "The Most Beautiful Girl". I'm assuming the cut you're referring to is a bit of a raver, huh? Wish I could hear it. |
Eva (bigswede2002) 2-Debutant Username: bigswede2002
Post Number: 27 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 130.237.171.253
| Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 1:48 pm: �� | ��� |
Hi John D. (and the rest of the honoured SFD members!), I lifted Harlan's comments straight from the liner notes to Kent's re-issue of either the "The Complete Goldwax Singles" or the "A Man Needs A Woman" CD-"Life Turned Her That Way" are on both of them. I'm not at home right now so I can't check, though! Anyway, the James Carr re-issues are essential, and anyone who hasn't already bought them, should go (no, run!) down to the nearest record shop/ACE's web site and get them ASAP!;-) To me, James Carr (alongside with O.V. Wright, maybe) is the greatest southern soul singer of them all, and it's wonderful to have his recordings re-issued with the usual care and devotion shown by the folks at Kent. You can have a look at (type James Carr in the search line): http://www.acerecords.co.uk/ All the best, Eva |
Eva (bigswede2002) 2-Debutant Username: bigswede2002
Post Number: 28 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 130.237.171.253
| Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 1:58 pm: �� | ��� |
Hi again! LOL! John, "Love Is After Me" is available on the CD "Charlie Rich Sings the Songs of Hank Williams Plus the R&B Sessions": http://www.charlierich.net/alb ums/album6.htm The Hank Williams side is maybe not Rich's greatest moment, but the R&B sessions are a treat. Check out his version "When Sometimes Is Wrong With My Baby" (which was the first recording of this song, if I remember correctly). Eva
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Eva (bigswede2002) 2-Debutant Username: bigswede2002
Post Number: 29 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 130.237.171.253
| Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 2:00 pm: �� | ��� |
...should be "When Something Is Wrong With My Baby", of course! Eva |
Tony Russi (tony_russi) 3-Pundit Username: tony_russi
Post Number: 38 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.18.59.107
| Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 2:05 pm: �� | ��� |
Jackie Moore is a southern soul singer that has recorded many songs that have a country/soul flavor such as "Make Me Feel Like A Woman" and her self penned "Precious,Precious". |
john dixon (john_dixon) 3-Pundit Username: john_dixon
Post Number: 38 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 152.163.252.166
| Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 2:12 pm: �� | ��� |
Hey Eva, Thanks for the info and links re: Charlie Rich and James Carr! |
Soulaholic (soulaholic) 3-Pundit Username: soulaholic
Post Number: 62 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.41.40.105
| Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 3:31 pm: �� | ��� |
What about Latimore's 45 There's a reneck in the Soul band! |
Phil (phil) 2-Debutant Username: phil
Post Number: 30 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 212.129.40.113
| Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 5:07 pm: �� | ��� |
Eva, I have the same tastes as you. For me, James Carr and O.V. Wright are some of the greatest Soul singers. And let's not forget Spencer Wiggins, nor Sam Baker ! |
SDF (handsome) 2-Debutant Username: handsome
Post Number: 20 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 170.118.158.14
| Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 5:24 pm: �� | ��� |
Soulaholic, I was gonna mention Lattimore...I have his best of! Handsome |