Post Number: 27
Posted From: 220.127.116.11
|Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 2:13 am: || |
Distributed by Atlantic Records,New York.
Here for me is another unsong Label
from the past.
Cotillion had a lot of releases over the course of its history and far to many to post here.
But its surprising the amount of detroit/chicago or philly or whoever had something to do with them at some stage.
Before I forget
Our good friend Mr Bobby Eli was involved on the label with Sister Sledge.
namely 'have love will travel-thank you for today' released on number 44202 around 1976.
'cream of the crop-love aint easy'
released on the uk Cotillion logo number k10876 and again around 1976ish.
apologies bobby if wrong......
the discs as far as I recall being produced by
Bobby Eli/Len Barry and the magical Bert De Coteaux.
The label was mainley Soul orientated but did release pop etc such as Slade or whoever.
All discs carried prefix 45.
All matrix pre-fixed by CO-.
Will mention just a few 45's as there are so many great artists on the label,which is probably on line somewhere.
Dynamics-murder in the first degree(Ronnie Shannon)-Aint no sun since youve been gone(Moy/Whitfield/Grant)
Obviously the detroit Dynamics as the flip was the stomping version to the Motown track(although for me Gladys Knights is the one)
worked with the dynamics at Black Gold records.
Is this the same R/Shannon from Brunswick fame?
The group feature again .
Darrell Banks with
'I wanna go home-the love of my woman'
Features ex-Ikette Dolores Berry.
Lou Johnson and feature again.
44O16-The obscure inst. once big on the scene and still in my collection of 'Sop it up' by Chris Towns and the Townsmen.
Took me ages to like the track.
44O17-Detroits Mr Floods party.
Of another oldie 'Compared to what' fame.
44O18-The Fabulous Shalimars.
Tobi Lark-24 hours-shake a hand also others.
obviously the Detroit artist famed for Topper 45's.
Moses Smith-come on let me love you-keep on striving.
The Dionn maestro that recorded the unforgettable classic of 'girl across the street'
released around 1967ish and 100% soul.
Terry Woodfords old Torch all-nighter stomper titled 'same old feeling-take me home m'lady'
detroit well known artist.
others worthy of a mention and then some are:
otis clay Mohawks Brook Benton Freddy King
Jerry Williams Sebastian Williams&his Soul men
C&The Shells Tony and Tandy Baby Washington
Joe Arnold Walter Jackson Laura Lee
Memphis Horns Fred Lowery,big bo&the arrows
The O'Kaysions young holt unlimited The Earls
Billy Bland The Fiestas The Gypsies Tami Lynn
The Enticers Garland Green Huey piano Smith and the clowns
Irma Thomas Patti and Lovelites Margie Joseph
John Edwards(ex spinners lead)
Bobby Eli/Len Barry/Bert De Coteaux
with Sisters Sledge
and to finish with
on Cotillion 44155
the detroit legend Jimmy'soul'Clark
with 'ya ya man-Tell Her'
apparantley the above 45 was highly regarded by the Legend(so many)also from detroit Mr popcorn wylie.
Not sure if it was meant to be released in detroit on the Soul Hawk logo or not,probably just hearsay,
anyway 'Tell Her' was released on the Detroit Moira records label.
so a fine record label well worthy to be mentioned again.
am about to split..........
any in-put good or bad appreciated as always with thanks
and apologies for any errors etc.
Post Number: 30
Posted From: 18.104.22.168
|Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 2:29 am: || |
The Earls, Billy Bland, Fiestas and Gypsies cuts were from the Old Town catalogue, bought by Atlantic, and given to their Cotillion subsidiary for release as albums and 45s. Atlantic used Cotillion as an outlet for Detroit soul and ad-hoc soul, just as Mercury had previously used its Blue Rock subsidiary.
Wonder B (wonder_b)
Post Number: 68
Posted From: 22.214.171.124
|Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 5:20 am: || |
How about THE FABULOUS COUNTS 'Jan Jan' LP...
Lady Mystique (ladymystique)
Post Number: 99
Posted From: 126.96.36.199
|Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 7:55 am: || |
I remember Cotillion, but the 80s stuff like Stacy Lattisaw (excuse me if I mispelled her name) and I think the Whispers were on it as well. I think I still have a 45 with Sister Sledge-MY GUY.
Post Number: 28
Posted From: 188.8.131.52
|Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 1:40 pm: || |
heres a few Cotillion albums
Wee Gee-Hold on(to your dreams)a great track.
Tami Lynn-love is here and now your gone.
King Floyd-same title
Brook Benton-do your thing.
Fabulous Counts as mentioned above.
Dee Edwards-2 hearts are better than 1.
Jean Knight and premium-keep it comin'.
C.L.Blast-I wanna get down.
Stacy Lattisaw-let me be your angel.
As I am on the subject of albums
can anyone give me any info on these album Labels please.
Poogie Records-a delfonics album is on it.
All Detroit Labels
Perfect touch records.(by perfect touch)
Seawind Records.(Lee Edwards or Dee Edwards?)
Take 6 Records
various artists and titled on the sleeve as
W.C.H.B's 21 Soul Souvenirs.
I think all are 70's/80's.
Post Number: 5
Posted From: 184.108.40.206
|Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 2:36 pm: || |
The Impressions-It's About Time (1976)
Philippe Wynne-Starting All Over (1977)
Post Number: 8
Posted From: 220.127.116.11
|Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 2:46 pm: || |
Hi Mel (and then some!)
Here's a Cotillion album discography:
John Edwards' album is fine southern style soul, and it's great to hear that Lou Johnson's "Sweet Southern Soul" is about to get a proper re-issue (there was a semi-bootleg on Belgian Marginal a few years back).
Post Number: 31
Posted From: 18.104.22.168
|Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 3:22 pm: || |
appreciate your time.
Erik T (erik_t)
Post Number: 6
Posted From: 22.214.171.124
|Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 3:25 pm: || |
WonderB beat me the 'Jan Jan' punch, but lemme add the Detroit group called the ADC Band on Cotillion, I have 1 of their records & it's as funky as Parliament were at the time (78-79). Before that they were the Nazty on the mostly gospel Nashboro label and of course, Black Nasty before that...
Post Number: 87
Posted From: 126.96.36.199
|Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 3:58 pm: || |
Mel, I have the Delfonics LP on Poogie. I believe that Poogie was William Hart's nickname & I'm pretty sure that it was his label.
The name of the LP is: The Delfonics Return & it came out in 1981. It is Poogie P 121680-AB-Stereo. It was produced by the Hart Brothers & was Distributed by Jamie/Guyden. I purchased this LP from Craig Moorer & will plainly state that at $20, I drastically overpaid for it, by at least $15.
I love The Delfonics & was planning to see them the night that Curtis Mayfield had that horrible accident. The weather was miserable, so I didn't go. I wish that they had cancelled the concert, as the weather that evening was horrific. It was the same type of rain that Diana Ross dealt with in her Central Park concert.
Here is the track listing:
The Way Things Are
This Time, This Time
I've Got Everything
Men Of Action
As I said, I love The Delfonics, but this LP was a huge disappointment. If you see this LP & pay more than $3-5 for it, it's tragic. Hell, if anybody wants to overpay for mine, it's for sale. My copy is nearly mint, that's how little I played it. Nuff said!
Post Number: 123
Posted From: 188.8.131.52
|Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 4:24 pm: || |
The delfonics were at there finest with Thom bel sand Norman haris.
After that it went downhill.
I also produced Ronnie Dyson's Phase II album for Cotillion as well as the single heart to heart.
Post Number: 15
Posted From: 184.108.40.206
|Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 7:16 pm: || |
I'm probably not wording this right, but was there a purpose for Atlantic to form Cotillion? They're all over the map. McDonald and Giles, Danny O'Keefe and Brook Benton as stablemates on a secondary label?
Lady Mystique (ladymystique)
Post Number: 116
Posted From: 220.127.116.11
|Posted on Sunday, April 18, 2004 - 7:21 pm: || |
Not to get off the subject, but I was at the Central Park concert with Diana Ross...we went at the next one, but saw the rained-out on WHT cable...I was mesmerized at how Diana looked, but couldn't help but wonder at the same time if she was cold with that thin jumpsuit on and the pouring rain and wind. And I was supposed to go to see Curtis with my family but I think we ended up going to a block party (despite the rain, people were still out and under canopies) instead and then we heard the news of that accident. What a summer that was!
Post Number: 91
Posted From: 18.104.22.168
|Posted on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 12:12 am: || |
What's up Bobby bro!!!
You are 100% on that one. I often imagine the type of legacy Will & the guys could have had if they continued with Thom. Imagine all of those Spinners & Stylistics hits that they could have had. Being extremely ignorant of the facts, I was a bit peeved when Mr Bell stopped working with The Delfonics. I thought that he had deserted them.
I still love The Delfonics, I just never thought that they produced themselves very well. Bobby, say hi to Miss V!
Lady M, regarding that Central Park concert, I kept waiting for her to be blown back to Oz. It looked as though the wind was going to blow her hair & outfit completely off. I know that the show must go on, but she risked electrocution that evening. I've never seen anything like it, before or after.
Post Number: 36
Posted From: 22.214.171.124
|Posted on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 9:44 am: || |
Many thanks to everyone for all your input
always fully appreciated
(and then some)
Walt B (walt_b)
Post Number: 1
Posted From: 126.96.36.199
|Posted on Monday, April 19, 2004 - 10:56 pm: || |
The ADC Band was Johnnie Mae Matthews' group and including some of her children. I have 2 or 3 of their albums on Cotillion (I was promoting for Atlantic at the time). I also remember a Wilson Pickett project from that time.
Post Number: 24
Posted From: 188.8.131.52
|Posted on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 1:39 am: || |
FWIW: Whenever I visited my aunt & uncle's house, I enjoyed playing their copy of Brook Benton's 45 "Rainy Night in Georgia" on Cotillion. It was among the stacks of 45s in their basement.
Davie Gordon (davie_gordon)
Post Number: 13
Posted From: 184.108.40.206
|Posted on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 1:27 pm: || |
Douglas, why did Cotillion exist at all ?
I think the simple answer is "overspill" - they were issuing loads of singles on Atlantic and
Atco, had a raft of labels they were distributing,
and needed another label to issue the remainder
of tracks that were either by artists signed to
Atlantic/Atco or picked up from independent producers.
The original plan was that Cotillion would be used for soul acts with Atlantic or Atco as the
label for all the rock acts they'd signed( Iron
Butterfly, Buffalo Springfield, Vanilla Fudge
and all the rest of them). Within months that plan
was abandoned when rock acts started appearing on
the label and the mixture of soul and rock releases continued for the lifetime of the label.
john c (john_c)
Post Number: 9
Posted From: 220.127.116.11
|Posted on Tuesday, April 20, 2004 - 1:41 pm: || |
The earliest Cotillion release I remember was the Woodstock soundtrack.
Mark Speck (mark_speck)
Post Number: 22
Posted From: 18.104.22.168
|Posted on Sunday, April 25, 2004 - 11:26 pm: || |
One correction, Mel, regarding Terry Woodford--he's not a Detroiter, but from way down in Muscle Shoals, Alabama. He'd previously recorded for the Fame label and, along with partner Clayton Ivey, produced dozens of records that came out of that area (among them, Reuben Howell's stuff on Motown).
Kevin Goins - KevGo (kevgo)
Post Number: 62
Posted From: 22.214.171.124
|Posted on Monday, April 26, 2004 - 11:37 am: || |
Cotillion Records was formed by Ahmet Ertegun & Jerry Wexler in 1968 intially to handle R&B/soul releases.
At first it existed as a "series" (using the Atlantic logo with "Cotillion Series" in bold print at the lower left side of the label - the company did the same thing with Alan Walden's Capricorn label in the beginning when those releases went through Atco). The actual label came into existance shortly thereafter.
Cotillion released R&B music that came out of Muscle Shoals, New York City (C & the Shells) and Detroit (the Dynamics) among others. The label even had a blue-eyed soul group called the Brass Buttons for a brief spell (the band came out of my hometown, Rochester NY). Carl Davis' Dakar/Bashee labels in Chicago were distributed through Cotillion & singer Walter Jackson cut a few singles for the label, including the original version of "The Coldest Days Of My Life" (later cut by the Chi-lites on Brunswick).
Kevin Goins - KevGo
Davie Gordon (davie_gordon)
Post Number: 19
Posted From: 126.96.36.199
|Posted on Monday, April 26, 2004 - 1:18 pm: || |
Mark, you're right about Terry Woodford working
at Muscle Shoals but he was actually a northerner
by birth - from Indiana if I remember rightly -
his family moved to Alabama when Terry was in his
Did you know he is the "Terry" of Terry and The
Chain Reaction who had a couple of good garage
releases on United Artists ?
Kevin, that's the first I've ever heard of a
Cotillion series using Atlantic logos. Do you
know which releases were in this series ? I know
that Cotillion was also the name of an Atlantic
owned publishing company which was set up, I
believe, to replace their old publishing company
(Progressive Music) which had been sold off when
Ertegun and Wexler needed cash.