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mhc (mcrenshaw)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 12:46 am: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I bought this 2-CD set a month ago; it's all the records that JL had on a portable jukebox ca. 1966, and I highly recommend it. He had impeccable taste in R&B and Rock and Roll. It contains, among other things, "Gonna Send You Back to Georgia" by Timmy Shaw, and other Detroit masterpieces..
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FrankM (frankm)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 5:01 am: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It is a good collection and every time I hear I feel fine I hear You better Watch Your Step by Bobby Parker.

For some reason or other they did not include Ritchie Barret's version of Some Other Guy and the verson they did include by The Big Three was from a seventies album which could not have been on a Jukebox, Lennon's or anybody else's.

Still a great album
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David Meikle (david_meikle)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 8:21 am: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Soul Music remains a big subject in England after all these years.

Quite amazing.
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Steve (steve_litos)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 10:47 am: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's the track list:

Track Listings
Disc: 1
1. Wilson Pickett - In The Midnight Hour
2. Fontella Bass - Rescue Me
3. Smokey Robinson & The Miracles The Tracks Of My Tears
4. Otis Redding My Girl
5. Len Barry 1, 2, 3
6. Tommy Tucker - High Heel Sneakers
7. Jimmy McCracklin - The Walk
8. Timmy Shaw - Gonna Send You Back to Georgia
9. Contours - First I Look At The Purse
10. Gary U.S. - Bonds New Orleans
11. Bobby Parker - Watch Your Step
12. Derek Martin - Daddy Rollin' Stone
13. Larry Williams - Short Fat Fannie
14. Little Richard - Long Tall Sally
15. Barrett Strong - Money (That's What I Want)
16. Bruce Channel Hey! Baby
17. Bob Dylan - Positively 4th Street
18. The Lovin�Spoonful - Daydream
19. Donovan - Turquoise
20. Buddy Holly - Slippin' And Slidin'

Disc: 2
1. Gene Vincent - Be-Bop-A-Lula
2. Chuck Berry - No Particular Place To Go
3. Paul Revere & The Raiders - Steppin' Out
4. The Lovin� Spoonful - Do You Believe In Magic
5. The Big Three - Some Other Guy
6. The Isley Brothers - Twist and Shout
7. Larry Williams -She Said "Yeah"
8. Buddy Holly - Brown Eyed Handsome Man
9. Little Richard - Slippin' And Slidin'
10. Gary U.S. Bonds - Quarter To Three
11. Little Richard - Ooh My Soul
12. Gene Vincent - Woman Love
13. The Miracles - Shop Around
14. The Animals - Bring It On Home To Me
15. James Ray with the Hutch Davie Orchestra - If You Gotta Make A Fool Of Somebody
16. The Miracles - What's So Good About Goodbye
17. Larry Williams - Bad Boy
18. Edwin Starr - Agent Double O Soul
19. The Miracles - I've Been Good To You
20. Barrett Strong - Oh I Apologize
21. The Miracles - Who's Lovin' You

How on earth John Lennon ever discovered James Ray is beyond me.
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Fred (fred)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 11:18 am: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Steve,

I'll bet George Harrison had something to do with Lennon's appreciation of James Ray. Remember that Harrison had a later hit with a remake of Ray's "Got My Mind Set On You."
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Bong-Man (bongman)
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Post Number: 22
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Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 11:34 am: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

John Lennon mentioned many times that "Spirit In the Sky" by Norman Greenbaum, was his favorite record of all time. It was released in 1970, thus not on the list.

**Just Passin' Thru**
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roger (roger)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 1:07 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Everyone.

There was a T.V. documentary based around the theme of "John Lennon's Jukebox" on British T.V. a few months back, where the program makers visited some of the artists who had their recordings on it, and indicated how some of these artists influenced THE BEATLES music.

For example, it seems that the guitar intro of "Watch Your Step" was used as the inspiration for THE BEATLES hit "I Feel Fine".

Fred and Steve .. There was a big U.K. hit by FREDDIE AND THE DREAMERS around 1963 called "If You Gotta Make a Fool of Somebody", presumably the JAMES RAY song is the original of this?

Roger
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mhc (mcrenshaw)
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Yes, the James Ray version is the original, and was a big US hit. Also, it was certainly the last, and maybe the only R&B hit that featured not a standup bass or an electric bass, but a tuba for the bottom end.
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Steve (steve_litos)
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Tuba?!? I did not know that. I do have a James Ray cd...I'll have to give it a listen again.

MHC - Any idea what area of the country that James Ray recorded? (The moon? Mars?) It's very odd production values for the time period. I'm thinking specifically of the dixieland drums & SCREECHY voices on "I've Got My Mind Set On You".
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mhc (mcrenshaw)
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Hi Steve, I think it's New York stuff. If I'm not mistaken, the arranger was Hutch Davie, a New York guy.
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Leo B (leo_b)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 12:46 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Detroiters,
The Lennon jukebox documentary airs this evening on Detroit's WTVS channel 56 !!
WTVS listing:
http://www.wtvs.org/watch/sche dule.shtml?keywordPBS=lennon&i ncludeOld=on
Show site:
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/gperf/ shows/lennon/index.html
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Lynn Bruce (lynn_bruce)
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Damn Marshall,I'm headed to blockbuster to pick up the cd. Jimmy McCraklin with the Walk is good enough for me. That old shuffle is cooking when they all come in after he says"do the walk" part.
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Chi Drummer (chidrummer)
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Post Number: 151
Registered: 5-2004
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Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 5:49 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Much Leo B,

That's Great Performances tonight on WTTW Channel 11 @ 8pm or on Friday morning @ 2:30am.
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Larry (larry)
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Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 1:07 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Saw the Documentary last night on KCET in Los Angeles. To see some of the original artists and their reactions and thoughts on being on Lennon's playlist was just great, very revealing. Nice to see Props given to these folks and black music in general. Using Sting however... ;)
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Gary (gary)
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Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 3:47 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I caught the John Lennon's Jukebox segment on PBS last night. It was incredible. I've got to look for it to be re-aired so I can tape it next time it's on.
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douglasm (douglasm)
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Post Number: 150
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Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 8:07 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Fasinating. The things that got to me were
1) Gary "U.S." Bonds commenting that he had hits because nobody knew he was black for his first two or three.
2) John Sebastian's comment about how Heatwave inspired Do You Believe In Magic.
and
c) Sebastian's comment about back when there was "more than one culture per radio station." Juice and I got into a discussion about the definition of Rock and Roll. I maintain that in the '60's, the definition of R&R was "what's played on Rock and Roll radio", and I think John's comment backs me up. That might be worth a thread in itself.
All in all, it was a wonderful show. If you get a chance, watch it.

doug

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