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Kev-Lo (7273747576)
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Hi this is Kev-Lo when we talk about various groups of the 70's.Ofcourse we'll mention groups like the Delfonics,The Moments,The Stylistics,The O'Jays,The Chi-Lites,and other popular groups that paved the way in the 70's.We'll here are two of the least groups we just don't talk about as much as we should.

THE MONTCLAIRS who I believe were from the south hit the soul seen in 1972 with a smooth and soultry jam called DREAMINGS OUT OF SEASON.Although it only stayed on the soul charts for a short period of time it was definitely a great slow jam.They also did a jam called BABY YOU KNOW I'M GONNA MISS YOU.That was another one of their jams that did'nt seem to get much play.In 1974 they did a jam called MAKE UP FOR LOST TIME.Then later on in the late 80's the lead singer Phil Perry became a solo artist and recorded some stuff on his own.

ACE SPECTRUM had a very unique and soulful philly sound in the early to mid 70's.I believe it was in late 1973 they came out with a slow grooner called DON'T LET ME BE LONELY TONIGHT which was also a LP.They followed up with another slow jam called JUST LIKE IN THE MOVIES.They were one of the finest groups that needs to be talked about and not forgotten.
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douglasm (douglasm)
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Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2004 - 3:43 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stupid Question.

No relationship between the Montclairs you mentioned and the "Happy Feet Time" Montclairs out of Cleveland?
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Charise (mistrivia1)
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Kev-Lo I have the Montclairs cd released in '91
it is "Dreaming Out Of Season" I don't recall them when I was little, but was familiar with Phil Perry, so when I saw the cd, I had to buy it.
I have to say that I enjoyed it:-):-):-):-) They are from East St. Louis. The song I remember the most from Ace Spectrum was "If You Can't Come Yourself(Don't Send Nobody Else) they always played it on the radio.
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Don (don)
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Hi Everyone,
About about 6yrs ago I worked with a cat name Fred along with his 20-ish something daughter and cousin Johnny. I asked Fred he looked rather filmiliar. To make a long story short, and he told me that he sanged with The Montclairs that recorded on the Paula label with "Baby, You Know I'm Gonna Miss You". Fred told me that he resides here in Chi-Town and is a resident of the westside. Fred stated that he fell on hard times and was making minimum wage, and said he doesn't own a phone. He gave me his address if I have it I'll have to look for it, if I still have it.

DON
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Tony B. (tony_b)
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Ace Spectrum was a very good NYC group with three LPs on Atlantic from 1974-1976. Excellent harmonies, especially on first album "Inner Spectrum."

What held them back probably was that they recorded quite a lot of songs previously done by others. In fact, none of the songs mentioned so far is original.

Having said that, one of their own songs is an absolute classic with fantastic falsetto singing: "I Don't Want To Play Around" from "Inner Spectrum." I rate it 10 out of 10 on the Smiley-o-Meter :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

"Keep Holding On" from "Low Rent Rendezvous" is another good original, but not another IDWTPA.

(Message edited by tony_b on September 04, 2004)
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Wonder B (wonder_b)
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Do not forget that Phil Perry before going solo did two albums with Richard Sanlin. They did two albums as Perry & Sanlin... which I like very much too...
I have the Montclairs LP too... great stuff indeed...

I don't know about Ace Spectrum not being original but At The Movies is a favourite album of mine...

PP

Wonder B
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soulseeker (soulseeker)
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I remember the Montclairs. They used to appear around my hometown a lot with the Oliver Sain Revue when I was coming up. I always thought they sounded like the moments.
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Mark Speck (mark_speck)
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No, Doug, there's no connection between the "Happy Feet Time" group (actually called the 'Monclairs'--check your 45) and the Paula group.

The Paula group was from St. Louis and had previously recorded for the Stax subsidiary Arch (the rare Northern soul single "Hey You Don't Fight It") and Oliver Sain's Vanessa label.

Kev--the UK Westside label released a 2 CD set with all of the Montclairs' Paula tracks. Don't know if it's still available, though.

Best,

Mark
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johneflat (johneflat)
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Posted on Monday, September 06, 2004 - 10:59 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I notice that Phil Perry, like Luther, doesen't speak about his group days....this is curious to me.........Both these guys made dy-no-mite music with their groups.
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Phil (phil)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 2:30 am: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mark, the Westside CD is still available at amazon.co.uk.

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