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mhc (mcrenshaw)
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Post Number: 11
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Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 9:41 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A friend gave me a tape of a radio interview that he did recently with Jack Scott. It got me thinking about and re-listening to all the great records that he made. When people talk about the history of Detroit Rock, he should be mentioned before anybody else; Berry Gordy Jr. once gave a quote about how Jack "started it all for Detroit". Anyway, I got the Bear Family Jack Scott boxed set in the mail today and was surprised to read in the notes that all Jack's great Carlton label hits were recorded in Detroit, at a studio I never heard of called "Universal". Does anybody know anything about such a place. Also, do any forumers have any Jack Scott stories. As a little kid, I felt the same kind of hometown pride about him that I later felt about Motown, The MC5, et. al., and think that he deserves a lot of props...
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Ron Murphy (ron_murphy)
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Post Number: 140
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Posted on Friday, September 03, 2004 - 10:02 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

if that box set you have said Jack Scott recorded at Universal that is a mistake.. Scott's hits were recorded at United Sound Systems in Detroit.

there was a Universal studio in Chicago but Scott never recorded there.
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mhc (mcrenshaw)
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Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2004 - 12:57 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wondered if that's what they meant to say, or should've said. I'm surprised that they made a mistake,'cause that label does really excellent research.. Anyway, I dug finding out that the stuff was done in Detroit.
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Sue (sue)
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Post Number: 166
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Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2004 - 9:42 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's really a shame that people are paid for liner notes like that, people will believe it because it's in a boxed set.

Jack Scott still puts on a great show live, he looks fit and has the energy of a much younger guy. He's got Steve Nardella playing guitar with him.
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Don (don)
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Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2004 - 10:57 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sue, mistakes can be made with most liner note writers. Maybe he got his notes bunched together and probally was trying to write two stories at the same time, while looking at the wrong page. I made some mistakes to on this forum from time to time, at least I'll try to correct them. I love the feedback here at SD that you don't find on other sites I've log onto.
Don
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TD (tmd)
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Post Number: 27
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Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2004 - 11:04 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I use to work out a a gym called Armento's in Detroit-back in the mid 70's.
I was sitting in the sauna one day and started talking to the guy in the sauna. Somehow it came up that he was a singer and was playing somewhere in Warren Michigan.
Later I found out that the guy I was talking to was the great Jack Scott.
Pretty cool
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mhc (mcrenshaw)
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Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2004 - 3:43 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Getting the name of the studio wrong isn't a gigantic mistake, but they do make another dumb blunder: They show a picture of Jack Scott with Linda Scott ("I Told Every Little Star"..) and refer to them as brother and sister. D'OH!
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Lynn Bruce (lynn_bruce)
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Post Number: 62
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Posted on Monday, September 06, 2004 - 11:09 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Back in the late 50s Jack Scott had a place noth of Detroit called Jack Scotts Dance Ranch.
Bob Babbitt and myself along with guitar player Danny James worked there more than a few times.It was fun and had a good crowd.If he wasn't on the road ,he would drop by.

Last Nov.,the Count and his doo woppers and myself went to a doo wop show in Cleveland and talked to Jack back stage.He sounded good. A lot of people were there to hear the doo wop groups.When they announced his name,some of the people weren't sure who he was.Once he started singing his hits they started clapping like crazy.They all knew him then.
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Sue (sue)
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Post Number: 172
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Posted on Monday, September 06, 2004 - 11:12 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don, when you're doing a professional job, for money, that's different than posting here off the top of your head.

With the Internet, even the laziest can do research. Did they think nobody knows anything about Detroit studios, and wouldn't check? It's a very easy thing to verify.
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Sue (sue)
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Post Number: 173
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Posted on Monday, September 06, 2004 - 11:13 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lynn, how are ya??

Where was Jack Scott's Dance Ranch??
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Sue (sue)
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Post Number: 174
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Posted on Monday, September 06, 2004 - 11:15 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

p.s. For one thing, if you're doing a boxed set booklet/liner note and the artist is still alive, you talk to them!

Jack Scott is easy to get on the phone and happy to talk about the particulars of his career.
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mhc (mcrenshaw)
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Posted on Monday, September 06, 2004 - 12:37 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Lynn, I was hoping you'd weigh in on this..
I'm still on my Jack Scott listening binge. "Goodbye Baby" and "What In the World's Come Over You?"; how bad-assed great are those records?!?!?! What about Dave Rohilier and (the other) Stan Getz, and the other Detroit guys who played so great on Jack's hits? Are they still around? I remember seeing Jack Scott on the Dick Clark Saturday night show when I was about 5 years old. He was huge for a couple years. The first White Rock star from Detroit, and a great one!
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Vonnie (vonnie)
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Post Number: 278
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Posted on Monday, September 06, 2004 - 1:16 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Marshall,

It's great seeing you post again, we missed you.

Sue, I have to agree with you on the research aspect, especially when it is print subject matter. I have found quite a number of mistakes on liner notes and other printed subjects. It makes what my mom always preached even more significant, "believe half of what you read and hear,and research the other half". Mom was so right:-)!
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Lynn Bruce (lynn_bruce)
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Post Number: 63
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Posted on Monday, September 06, 2004 - 2:21 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Sue,I hope your doing well---I can't remember the city but it was up (it seemed at the time)somewhere east or west around Utica in the country I know it was a long way from Dearborn,Wayne, and Inkster for Babbitt, Danny, and me. It seemed like we took Gratiot or Mound road to get there.Growing up in Inkster,that area was a different country for me.lol--

Hi Marshall,Nice to see you posting.You always seem to come up with an old Detroit musicians name that gets me thinking about did I see him at a club,or play with him,or sit in with him,or talk to him at a party after the gig.lol
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mhc (mcrenshaw)
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Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2004 - 12:29 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Vonnie and Lynn, Thanks so much..
How about some more Jack Scott stories: where's Ed Wolfrum, Marilyn Bond, Robin Seymour, et. al. ?
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Jim Heddle (cuzzin_itt)
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Registered: 8-2004
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Posted on Monday, September 13, 2004 - 4:30 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is some little-known information about Jack Scott from the (hopefully accurate) liner notes to the 1982 Attic Records release, Jack Scott - The Original Recordings, 1958-1959:
"Between June 1958 and November 1961, he had 19 hit records...more hits in a shorter time span than any other performer - ever!"

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