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Kev-Lo (7273747576)
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Post Number: 215
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Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 7:29 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi this Kev-Lo Let's pay tribute to a funky soul 60's memphis band

THE BAR-KAYS had been playing around Memphis for a while,and they were the first(stepping) band in Memphis.They were Otis Redding's road band their 1967 boogaloo hit SOUL FINGER was an instant smash.Soul Finger was #3 on the R&B charts and #17 on the pop charts.The B side KNUCKLEHEAD which was a another foot stomper was written by Steve Cropper and Booker T.Jones was #28 on the R&B charts and #76 on the pop charts.The Bar-Kays had a second Volt release was co.written with David Porter called GIVE EVERYBODY SOME.The Bar-Kays was definitely one of the most funkiest and explosive bands of the 60's was at the peak of their career when tragically four members of the band along with the legendary immortal Otis Redding parished in that terrible plane crash back on December 10,1967.And although their gone their music will always live on
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Soul Sister (soul_sister)
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Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 7:43 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi kev-lo;
The first time I saw the original Bar-Kays was on a show at the Branford Theater in Newark, that was early spring of 1966. Those I remember on the show were Deon Jackson(I was his guest), The Capitols, Sam & Dave, Wilson Pickett, & Eddie Floyd.
Take Care,
S.S.
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Kev-Lo (7273747576)
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Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 9:54 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi this is Kev-Lo hey soul sister Wow that must of been a great show.those were some great acts.Who would you say was the best in that show.
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Soul Sister (soul_sister)
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Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 10:15 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi kev-lo;
From what I remember "Sam & Dave" were. Oh,Barbara Lewis was also on the bill.
S.S.
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Kevin Goins - KevGo (kevgo)
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Post Number: 175
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Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 12:43 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kev-Lo:
What will always amaze me is that the guys who gave us "Soul Finger" and "Knucklehead" were KIDS! The original Bar-Kays recorded for Stax/Volt while still attending high school. It's been said that Otis Redding would make sure the group returned to Memphis in time for their classes. Sadder to think that all but Ben Cauley perished in 1967 (Cauley reportedly recalled seeing his fellow band members drown while he clutched onto the wing of the aircraft and was later rescued). May their music live on and never be forgotten.

Long live the Soul Finger!

Kevin Goins - KevGo
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Chancellor of Soul (harlem_144)
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Post Number: 227
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Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 1:36 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a piece of this story featured on my
website entitled, Sun Dec 10, 1967 3:28 PM /
Otis Redding: A Tragedy In Soul Music History.
I got a chance to see the Bar-Kays perform a
show with Otis Redding and Carla Thomas and
Toussaint McCall at the Apollo theater in 67'.
Yes Kev-lo, they were a great band and the
interesting thing about Soul Finger, David Porter
recruited some kids of the street and gave them
each some Coca-Cola and told them to watch his
finger each time he wanted them to scream out
soul finger ! Knuclehead was also a dance where
you bob your head up and down. Great songs !!!
Give Everybody Some was another good underated
dance cut, released a little before the tragedy.


Peace,
Mike Boone
(Chancellor of Soul)

chancellorofsoul.com
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Charise (mistrivia1)
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Post Number: 438
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Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 2:07 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello all, Kev-Go I remember reading about that tragedy, when I was old enough to read, in JET maagazine. My dad still has all those Mags from '66, 67 etc. I remember seeing the pictures of the site, the plane and an interview with Cauley from his hospital room, talking about seeing them all and not being able to do anything. The main page featured a photo of Otis still strapped to his seat, with the coroner standing over him and another with the rescue crew pulling him from that icey water. That was shocking as I had never seen an artist in death like that. Every since then, I would be scared when I got on an airplane. It's not so bad now, but in the back of my mind I still kind of think about it, when I get on a plane. I always just pray on it. Very sad. James Alexander and another member(can't recall his name right now)did not go, because there was not enough room. It is amazing that they were not even out of high school, yet. That must have been a great experience for them to get a hands on education like that and go out on the road. I did enjoy this band as years went on, especially with addition of Larry Dodson, his voice added the extra "umph" to their sound. Kind of eery that "Dock of the Bay had just been completed some 3 days before this tragedy and the lyrics are kind eery, when you think about what happened, but I love that song, especially when Otis whistles at the end:-):-):-)
Two very shrewd businessmen as far as their music was concerned, along with being great artists, Otis and Sam Cooke:-):-):-):-)
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Charise (mistrivia1)
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Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 2:19 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Soul Sister, you were doing the darned thing back in the day!!! That's how I would have been, if I had been old enough to see all those great acts of the 60's, trying to get to every and any concert that came to town, it is not like that anymore. I get a sense of great times and fun, even though the world was changing politically and socially.
You can't buy those experiences you, Eli, Spyder and others have had!!! Just Good Memories and glad you are able to share them with us.:-):-) For me, it is like reading a different chapter from a good book, I get to live vicariously through you all. I am learning things about people whom I have admired and never would have known, if I had not found SDF. I don't know that their is another site such as this, I am Addicted!!(oops I said it again) Medusa & Dyva are going to get me-LOL:-):-):-)
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Soul Sister (soul_sister)
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Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 3:50 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Charise;
Yea, it was big fun, one big adventure,lol! Who would have known back then how much we missed those "good" days back then today. At least here on SD Charise, you can re-live those memories along with us.:-)
S.S.
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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
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Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 10:34 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi everyone :-)

Here's a couple of pics that I have of The Bar Kays. They died too soon & so young, that was the other thing about the tragedy. Otis was only 26 & I don't believe that any of The Bar-Kays who perished lived to see 20 years of age. Stax lost practically a whole generation of musicians in that one day.

May they all rest in peace!!

bk1 bk2
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Don (don)
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Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2004 - 11:46 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm somewhat confuse here. A few yrs ago I seen A.J. Benza's True Hollywood Mysteries on the E channel. The airing was based on Otis Redding life and fortunate passing.

When it came to interviewing the only surviving member of The Bar-Kays that survived the plane crash, A.J. talked to Bar-Kays bass guitarist at the time Ben Cauley. I always knew Ben Cauley was the bassist.

It has always been said that bassist James Alexsander from the late 60's early 70's reformed Bar-Kays was supposed to be the only surviving member?

Don
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Charise (mistrivia1)
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Don, I mentioned earlier in my post that there were I believe 3 survivors. Actually, Cauley would be the only survivor of the crash. James Alexander and another member were not able to go on that ill-fated trip, because there was no room.
I could be wrong about the other member, but I remember a picture of James Alexander standing and looking over the water. I'll check on that.

(Message edited by Mistrivia1 on September 04, 2004)
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Don (don)
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Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 11:39 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It sounds then that the Bar-Kays had 2 bass guitarist. I always wonder why so much emphasis focused on James Alexender by him being the only surivior, and more so said that he was the bassist for the band, sounds a bit odd to me.

Don
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~medusa~ (~medusa)
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Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 11:49 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

..and I remember when Jet Magazine showed the crash and a pic of Otis Reddings body still frozen in his seat. I somehow lost that Jet magazine, probably in a fire. They used to show any & Everyting in the Jet Magazine and they still do. I was told they showed Rick James in his Casket, I missed that one.
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mel(andthensome) (mel)
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Don (don)
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Hey Mel, this was the best lineup of Bar-Kays ever! The guy on with the long hair who's name I can't recall originally the guitarist that came from The Issac Hayes Experience. I remember the Funk Fest at Soldiers Field in the mid 70's, and the Bar-Kays stole the show! These guys should get back together to do some shows in the States and are popular in Europe, the presents has been absent a long time. These Bar-Kays and this pic I remember most.
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Nosey (nosey)
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Hi Chancellor! I do the Knucklehead in one of my skits and I have to admit while initially rehearsing it, I developed a severe headache. LOL! I have to do that skit on October 2 so I better start warming up the ole noggin again. What a great summer 1966 was.
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Randy Russi (randy_russi)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 4:31 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I loved them! It broke my heart to read the
story in the newspaper of the plane crash.
They were all so young! One of them was
screaming for help a few minutes after
the plane went down. Sadly, he did
drown. I can't remember which one was heard
screaming, but he was only about 19. Maybe
his name was Ronnie. I used to actually
know their names, but time has moved on
and so has memory.

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