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mel(andthensome) (mel)
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Post Number: 445
Registered: 4-2004
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Posted on Monday, August 23, 2004 - 3:44 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This may be old hat
apologies if so.........
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Graham Finch (acooolcat)
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Post Number: 173
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 210.200.105.225
Posted on Monday, August 23, 2004 - 9:22 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's a bit cryptic, Mel.

Are you talking about the group's 45 on the Karen label?
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Mark Speck (mark_speck)
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Post Number: 157
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 63.188.113.164
Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 1:01 am: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't rate the Karen song ("Ain't Gonna Give You Up") very highly--been hearing it a lot on a college radio show I tune in to on Fridays. I prefer their single for Impact ("That Same Old Feeling") and their first Inferno single ("A Way to Love You").

The Karen single is listed in Manship's price guide.

Best,

Mark
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Graham Finch (acooolcat)
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Post Number: 174
Registered: 4-2004
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Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 5:10 am: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Mark. I really love that song, "Ain't Gonna Give You Up." The flip is called "Am I Losing You" - Jimmy Delphs also recorded it on Karen.
I'm not sure if it's from 1971 - maybe it was released in 1970, although it sounds very 60's.
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Mark Speck (mark_speck)
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Post Number: 161
Registered: 4-2004
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Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 10:22 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We were debating "Ain't Gonna Give You Up" on the KTF list recently. I think the majority of folks there thought it was nothing special. To each his own, I guess...

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Mark
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~medusa~ (~medusa)
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Post Number: 589
Registered: 3-2004
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Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 11:15 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A Way To Love You ...and Gotta Give Her Love were my favorites.
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Graham Finch (acooolcat)
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Post Number: 182
Registered: 4-2004
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Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 12:59 am: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I prefer The Shades of Blue's version of "A Way To Love You" - it was only released on their Impact label LP, not as a 45.
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matt weingarden (mrfinewine)
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Post Number: 23
Registered: 8-2004
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Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 12:38 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i've got a reel-to-reel tape of the "ain't gonna give you up" session...different parts played separately, different takes (i think), etc....haven't listened to it in years. really need to burn it onto a cd one of these days.
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Mark Speck (mark_speck)
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Post Number: 163
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 63.188.113.80
Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 11:28 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Probably a dumb question, Graham, but I'll ask it anyway: is the backing track on the Volumes' version of "Am I Losing You" the same as Jimmy's version?

I suspect that Ollie may have used the same backing tracks for multiple artists a la Brunswick and Scepter/Wand.

Best,

Mark
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Graham Finch (acooolcat)
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Post Number: 183
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 210.200.105.229
Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 2:19 am: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Mark
I don't have a copy of Jimmy's version here with me, but I've just played the Volumes' one and from memory they are the same track.
I guess you know Jimmy's is Karen #1550 and The Volumes' disc is #1551 (K100).
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Robb_K (robb_k)
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Post Number: 483
Registered: 4-2004
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Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 2:50 am: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"I like I Just Can't Help Myself", "Gotta Give Her Love", "One way Lover" best.

I'd also like to find out if there were any other "Motown" Inferno recordings other than the one single "Ain't That Lovin' You", which was clearly a Motown recording. While perusing the Motown master tapes, recordings lists and acetates, I didn't see any reference to others, but I suspect they recorded more during the period Inferno was distributed by Motown (and Harry Balk had his deal with them). Any help, Ron, Graham, Davie-anybody else?
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Graham Finch (acooolcat)
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Post Number: 184
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 210.200.105.229
Posted on Friday, August 27, 2004 - 5:08 am: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Robb

That's the only Motown release I know of. Harry was actually a paid employee of the company then. I don't think he was earning much though.

I agree with you on those American Arts label releases - they're great. I think they were cut in New York.

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