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Satipe (satipe) 3-Pundit Username: satipe
Post Number: 39 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.185.84.74
| Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 9:39 pm: �� | ��� |
I have learned a lot from messages here and one area in particular is Northern Soul. Sadly, whenever someone writes about a Northern Soul artist, I tend to say "Who?" as I have never heard of him/her. A friend of mine who lives here in Toronto but is from England came into school one day (he works for the school board)when my friend Kat Schaffner was there and he went crazy. Kat comes up all the time and the kids see her just as someone to talk and/or confide with, compare stories, laugh, etc. but he saw her as a musical God. He even invited another English friend to come over. I asked the two of them about Northern Soul and they gave me name after name but I had only heard of a small few. They said that if Kat or any of these people they mentioned were to show up at an "all nighter" in England, they would be mobbed. It makes me sad to know that as something that Isaiah has written is that here, we tend to forget these same people. Kat, J.J. Barnes, Roz Holmes, Annette Sterling, Joe Bilingslea, Cal Street, Bobby Rogers and many others could walk into a local store here in 'anywhere' North America and be ignored but in Northern England, maybe not. Undoubtedly, their history is better known in Northern England as in the Detroit area where they all still live, it would be "Who?" It is sad that in North America we tend to forget our musical heritage. That is okay because 30 years from now, people will remember today's #1 hit from "Terror Squad" (I kid you not and check the charts)...then again, let's learn something from Northern Soul. |
Eli (phillysoulman) 6-Zenith Username: phillysoulman
Post Number: 1367 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.162.125.242
| Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 12:17 am: �� | ��� |
Hi Satipe, I doubt very much if todays rap records will be remembered at all, especially within the context of leaving a legacy. The shelf life of these records is very short and so is the mindset of a lot of these numbskulls. Unless we start to experience a positive reversal of musical trends, there will be very little "new oldies" but fortunately, we will still have our "oldies" which we all know and love to remember. |
Wonder B (wonder_b) 6-Zenith Username: wonder_b
Post Number: 670 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 80.11.49.222
| Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 4:00 am: �� | ��� |
Satipe if you want to know more about the Northern Soul Scene and the artists, subscribe to N SOUL (formerly Togetherness) a great UK Mag about this music... http://www.goldsoul.co.uk/shop /booksmags/index.html Wonder B |
David Meikle (david_meikle) 5-Doyen Username: david_meikle
Post Number: 334 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 81.130.211.124
| Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 4:16 am: �� | ��� |
Hi Satipe I spoke in depth with JJ Barnes about his career last month. His fondest memories all lie in the dozens of clubs in England that he played for many years, where was treated like the star he is. Northern Soul is basically music from the sixties which you can dance to. For example "Real Humdinger" by JJ Barnes or "Stop her on sight" Edwin Starr. My experiences of the scene's early days can be found in our Northern Soul Tour which you can find by clicking on the "Welcome to the Soulful Detroit forum" rectangle top centre right of this page. In there, you will find it down the list at the left side of your screen. David |
isaiah imani (isaiah) 3-Pundit Username: isaiah
Post Number: 55 Registered: 8-2004 Posted From: 170.224.224.70
| Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 10:09 am: �� | ��� |
Tim, once again, great thread you're starting here... A little disclaimer from my vantage point... As this music's origins are here, in the United States, it stands to reason that some of it's lesser known artists might be taken for granted... The key phrase is LESSER-KNOWN... Other factors, include, the fact that MOST of these artists come from a community which created art that America disavowed until others in far-flung places proclaimed it as great... If you think the R&B artists are forgotten, then you must look to see how many Jazz and Blues greats are entirely off the map, the radar, of most Americans... Peace! Isaiah |
matt weingarden (mrfinewine) 2-Debutant Username: mrfinewine
Post Number: 15 Registered: 8-2004 Posted From: 64.74.45.38
| Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 11:13 am: �� | ��� |
one question: who's kat schaffner? |
Satipe (satipe) 3-Pundit Username: satipe
Post Number: 40 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.185.84.74
| Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 6:13 pm: �� | ��� |
Matt, Kat sang with the Marvelettes - the original ones, not the fake ones. |
Mark Speck (mark_speck) 4-Laureate Username: mark_speck
Post Number: 139 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 63.188.137.183
| Posted on Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 1:05 am: �� | ��� |
Satipe, Here's a link to check out some Northern tunes in RA format: http://the.soulclub.org I guarantee you'll be here for HOURS as there are just tons of stuff to listen to! Best, Mark |
Don (don) 6-Zenith Username: don
Post Number: 648 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.168.193
| Posted on Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 9:37 am: �� | ��� |
Hi Satipe, I always wonder what DJ's and certain radio stations would be still playing these songs in the future, because their was so much music and artist we speak of here on the forum. For some many yrs that continued to play the so-call obscure and the more popular hits on a even scale. I have heard the lost and forgotten in about 3 decades now. The only folks I know that keep the lost and forgotten records are the NS, nite Owl's, All Nighters, etc & etc. I can't forget not to mention Canada too. See, these records (I felt then as I do now) are just as equally important as the popular songs and artists. I been hearing about NS and other fanbases clubs for the past 15-20 yrs now, I heard about it before I actually learned about it. DON |
Satipe (satipe) 3-Pundit Username: satipe
Post Number: 42 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.185.84.74
| Posted on Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 8:13 pm: �� | ��� |
I like to read and I have learned a great deal about Northern Soul. My goodness, if only the same love for music occured here in North America, there would be so much more music. |
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