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SDF (handsome)
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Post Number: 458
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 170.118.158.14
| | Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 11:30 am: �� |   ��� |
Here is some information on this album, which is out of print for those interested.
This album was recorded in Chicago in 1984 on Red Label records. All vocals are by Wanda, Shelia, & Pamela
Most of the production was by Billy Osborne & A. Zane Giles.
Side 1
All Things Come In Time 5:20
written by Wayne & Wanda Vaughn
Lead Vocal: Wanda
Are You Through With My Heart 3:45
written by Keg Johnson, Danni Johnson, Pat & Marlo Henderson
Lead Vocal: Sheila
You're The One 3:49
written by Billy Osborne & A. Zane Giles
Lead Vocal: Sheila
Can't Blow Out The Candle 3:45
written by Jerry & Jeanette Williams
Lead Vocal: Wanda
Sincerely 4:10
written by Sheila Hutchinson & Keith Henderson
Lead Vocal: Sheila
Side 2
You're The Best 6:05
written by Billy Osborne & A. Zane Giles
Lead Vocals: Sheila & Wanda
You Know I'm The One 4:45
written by Keith Henderson
Lead Vocal: Sheila
Never Let Another 3:38
written by Sheila Hutchinson & Wayne Vaughn
Lead Vocal: Sheila
I Can Do Anything 5:25
written by Wayne & Wanda Vaughn, Debbie King
Lead Vocal: Sheila
I think this album yielded singles, "You're The One & You're The Best.
Sincerley is a nice song. Overall, on a scale of 5 stars, I give this lp: 3.5 stars.
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everettinct (everett860)
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Posted From: 206.213.251.31
| | Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 11:42 am: �� | ��� |
Hi SDF...
I love Sincerely...It was a great album and even though it was on a tiny label, it got out there and made a little noise for the Ladies.
My favorites are: Are You Through With My Heart, Sincerely and I CAN DO ANYTHING!!!!!
I would give it a 4.5... - but I absolutely love The Emotions. |
roddee (rod_rick)
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Post Number: 21
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 64.12.116.138
| | Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 11:45 am: �� | ��� |
You're The Best also charted on the dance charts. There is a 12inch version that's pretty nice. I have a question. Did Jeanette record any vocals with her sisters on that album. It sounds like she could be in the background. When Jeanette was touring with the group, she did the lead on Can't Blow Out The Candle. Her version was more mid tempo and the girl would blow the house down with that song. I don't know why they didn't use her more on lead because she has a great voice. I have a live recording with Wanda, Pam and Jeanette. Jeanette did the lead on Flowers & Ain't Know Doubt About It. Jeanette did an excellent job on both songs. The girl got some chops I tell ya |
SDF (handsome)
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Post Number: 461
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 170.118.158.14
| | Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 11:55 am: �� | ��� |
Roddee, all the information provided came from the album. Jeanette did write the song, "Can't Blow Out The Candle", and she probably did the demo or sang it to Wanda.
All those girls can sing...Jeanette sounds like a 1st soprano, though all of them can switch up on their parts in a heartbeat (thank to their innate abilities & Daddy Hutchinson).
Does anyone know how Pam sounds, because I never heard her lead, except the little ad-lib she does on "Best Of My Love"?
Handsome |
everettinct (everett860)
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Posted From: 206.213.209.31
| | Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 12:16 pm: �� | ��� |
Actually, I was told that Jeanette did record Sincerely with Wanda and Sheila..but during release time, something happened, so Pam stood in for the photo session.
I was told this was the same situation for their Motown album as well...Wanda, Sheila & Jeanette..but when it was time to be released, they used someone else on the photo... |
soulseeker (soulseeker)
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Registered: 7-2004
Posted From: 192.94.3.10
| | Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 1:15 pm: �� | ��� |
Thanks for the album info. |
SDF (handsome)
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Post Number: 463
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 170.118.158.14
| | Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 1:46 pm: �� | ��� |
Thanks everettinct for the info.
A great album nonetheless!
Rodmann, I hope you see this thread!
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Rodmann (rodmann)
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Post Number: 429
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 12.223.151.165
| | Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 5:45 pm: �� | ��� |
You're clownin' Handsome! You know I want this album! I appreciate this information!
Unfortunately, I've never heard the full album. I've only been able to find bad mp3's of 'You're The One' and 'You Know I'm The One'. The quality of the mp3's I have are bad but the songs are fantastic and ahead of their time. Two years later in 1986, Anita Baker took this same style and ran with it on her hit album "Rapture". If "Sincerely" had been released on a major label instead of the tiny Red Label it would've been a smash!
I'm waiting for someone to re-release this album on CD.
(Message edited by Rodmann on August 20, 2004) |
SDF (handsome)
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Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 170.118.158.14
| | Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 5:59 pm: �� | ��� |
Anytime Rod!
Handsome |
roddee (rod_rick)
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Posted From: 205.188.116.138
| | Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 8:18 pm: �� | ��� |
Hey I know what Pam sounds Like. On this live tape I have, she Sings lead with her brother Joe on the song Walking the Line. She has good quality in her voice and she's is no doubt a soprano alto range. Pam can hit the high notes just as well as her sisters. I think from the tape (recorded 1979) Pam lacked the confidence as a lead singer. She sounded a bit timid, but you can tell she has chops like hers sisters. She now
sings Phillip Bailey part on Boogie Wonderland in their live show. Now there is a sister that is younger than Pam named Kenya. What is she up to? also what is Jeanette doing these days?
Has anyone purchased their new cd "Songs Of Innosence"? |
Boynextdoor (boynextdoor)
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Posted From: 4.165.87.16
| | Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 8:29 pm: �� | ��� |
For those of you who are Emotions fans, I saw a CD on amazon.com that looked interesting. It's titled "Innocence and Experience". It said it's an import of the twice scheduled, twice cancelled Volt/Stax 1972 LP. I'm not familiar enough with the group to recognize the songs listed. Maybe someone else can elaborate on this CD? |
everettinct (everett860)
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Posted From: 67.100.52.128
| | Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 11:12 pm: �� | ��� |
If you are a fan of The Emotions Stax/Volt work, then you'll love Songs Of Innocence & Experience. This album was scheduled twice in the early 70's and cancelled each time. Some of the tracks were released on the 1977 SUNSHINE album and alot of the songs were released as 45's during their stax days. Now finally, 32 years later, it's here! It has lots of unreleased stuff which is very good.
This release is definately worth getting. |
everettinct (everett860)
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Posted From: 206.213.209.31
| | Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 9:12 am: �� | ��� |
By TONY ROUNCE
Doesn't time fly - I've been with Ace for nearly three years now and - for me at least - it still feels like it's been about three weeks (although I suspect that my long-suffering colleagues may feel a little differently about that from time to time!) I've never regretted joining the Ace team for even a second, and if I ever have a regret at all its that I was not here when my A&R associates Roger Armstrong and Peter Gibbon made their first forays into the Stax tape vault and emerged with the tapes that made up, among other things, the wonderful "Volts Of Stax" series and sundry other first-rate, single-artist compilations.
The chaps had already dealt with the bulk of Stax by the time I pitched up on the doorstep, but we're all ever-agog to find new ways that we can bring you more of our - and surely everyone's - favourite Southern Soul label's fine fare. And this month I'm particularly delighted to be both instigator and perpetrator of a splendid collection from the label's flagship female harmony group - who else could that be but the Emotions?
Longtime Stax collectors will know that the Hutchinson sisters and their cousin Teresa Davis twice had a "Songs Of Innocence And Experience" album scheduled for release on the Volt subsidiary during Stax' 'fingerclickin' heyday. First time around, the title was changed at the last minute and the album became "Untouched". Second time out, the release was cancelled, even though a number was allocated (and subsequently never reassigned). But finally, a mere 33 years on, The Emotions at last have a "Songs Of Innocence And Experience" collection that, likely as not, contains many of the tracks that were destined for that cancelled album, as well as a number of selections that have never previously made it to any Emotions CD, PLUS a beguiling assortment of hitherto unissued demos and finished tracks that all make their world-wide debut here! The release of this CD does, in fact, ensure that every finished Emotions Volt master is now available on a UK CD. Good news for everybody, don't you agree?
Many of these tracks were originally issued on the 1978 vinyl album "Sunshine", that Fantasy culled from their stockpile of Emotions Stax masters, shortly after they bought the catalogue and resurrected the imprint, and released at a time when the girls were hot with Best Of My Love and Don't Ask My Neighbours. Even though the Emotions did not originally endorse the release of "Sunshine", there was nothing on it for them to be embarrassed about - and that is still the case, 26 years later. Far from being a bunch of rejects, the original "Sunshine" set actually included some of their finest recordings ever, and if the opening trio of I Really Miss You, the single Shouting Out Love and the gorgeous version of Carla Thomas' Gee Whiz aren't themselves enough to convince you that "Sunshine" was and still is a 'must-have' item then nothing will!
As well as bringing you the "Sunshine" album in its entirety, this new project includes some wonderful unissued sides, among them a demo of the Charmels' Hayes-Porter masterpiece As Long As I've Got You that comes from the Emotions' very first Stax session. Also featured is a marvellous version of (If Loving You Is Wrong) I Don't Want To Be Right that presents the song from a woman's viewpoint and that would have been recorded at about the same time as (and possibly even before) Luther Ingram's seminal take on the song. Among the other unissued delights is a superb essay on Tony Hester's You've Got Me Going Through A Thing (also cut around the same time by Kim Weston, whose version lay similarly unreleased until it popped up on one of our earlier Stax comps). When you hear it, your only question as to its 'previously unissued' status will be, "why"?...
I'm also delighted to have been afforded the opportunity to include the girls' two holiday offerings. Black Christmas is a great song with a strong message that transcends the merely seasonal aspects of its title. For my money What Do The Lonely Do At Christmas is one of the 20 finest Stax sides of all time, as well as possibly the saddest song ever written (I'm welling up even as I sit here now, just writing about it).
So there you have "Songs Of Innocence And Experience" - a collection that features plenty of both, performed by one of the finest female vocal groups of all time. Happily the Emotions are still very much an active act - and they'll be appearing in the UK in October on a not-to-be-missed bill that also includes the Pointer Sisters and Candi Staton. Don't miss that, and whatever you do please don't miss this, either.
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Boynextdoor (boynextdoor)
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Posted From: 4.165.87.69
| | Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 7:28 pm: �� | ��� |
Tony Rounce....Wow....what a great thread on "Innocence and Experience". It set me running off off to amazon.com to order the CD. Thank's for all the information! |
Rodmann (rodmann)
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Posted From: 12.223.151.165
| | Posted on Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 11:43 pm: �� | ��� |
Great post everettinct! I've had the "Sunshine" LP for years and it's got some of The Emotions best work on it. The "Shouting Out Love" single would've been a bigger hit if it had been released when it was first recorded instead of 3 or 4 years later in 1977 and "Ain't No Sunshine" is one of their best. I'm also glad to see one of my favorite holiday recordings "What Do The Lonely Do At Christmas" included on this collection.
"Songs Of Innocence And Experience" sounds like another collection that I've gotta have. If I keep finding out about all of these great CD's I'll be broke! |
roddee (rod_rick)
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Posted From: 152.163.252.200
| | Posted on Sunday, August 22, 2004 - 5:56 pm: �� | ��� |
My favorite song from the Sunshine lp is "Aint No Sunshine". Whats your thoughts on "If Only You Knew " That's with Shiela, Wanda and Adrianne Harris (whoever she is)on the cover. I think thebest song from that set is Givin You All I Got and Just A girl In Love |
Rodmann (rodmann)
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Posted From: 12.223.151.165
| | Posted on Sunday, August 22, 2004 - 6:57 pm: �� | ��� |
Hey Roddee. I've never heard the "If Only You Know" LP but a friend who has it told me that it's horrible. He said it was much too electronic and Pop oriented.
When I finally hear the album for myself I'll look out for the two songs you suggested. |
everettinct (everett860)
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| | Posted on Monday, August 23, 2004 - 3:40 pm: �� | ��� |
I think If I Only Knew was trying to be Sincerely Part 2. It followed the same formula but with less spectacular results. There are some good things on the album, especially Wandas (way before it's time) song MISS YOUR LOVE. There are some nice ballads on it GOOD TIMES and the title track If I Only Knew Then (what i know now).
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K-Bee (kbee)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, August 25, 2004 - 12:10 pm: �� | ��� |
Actually "If I Only Knew" isn't as bad as I once thought. I'll admit it's been gathering dust on the shelf for quite some time but I did pull it out after chatting to Rodmann and actually it's OK.
Still, it's nothing nearly as interesting as their classic 70s outings like Flowers/Rejoice/Sunbeam....honestly, you have to be a sucker for 80s drummachines to fully appreciate it.
(Message edited by KBee on August 25, 2004) |