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Manny (manny)
5-Doyen
Username: manny
Post Number: 386
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 217.124.51.14
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 8:17 pm: �� |   ��� |
Hello Submarine To All!
Hey, Alain,
You say it to me and I make it (i'm not the only "guilty", here in SDF i'm well known as a very Phillysound obssesed!, smile!)
Some times i started Philly threads as "Your Top Ten PIR Favorites" that were very successful in participation... Or the good folks in SDF was comprensive with a Philly-illness as me, smile!
I starts to name my favorite ten jazzy vocal and jazzy instrumental.
Vocal:
01-I Need You Forever / Lou Rawls
02-Billy Boy / Billy Paul
03-My Old Flame / Billy Paul
04-A Really Hard Day / Dee Dee Sharp
05-Lover Man / Patti Labelle
06-Treasure Of my Life / Billy Paul
07-Early Morning Love / Lou Rawls
08-I'm Glad To Be Back / Jerry Butler
09-It Takes Two / Phyllis Hyman
10-Some Day You'll Be Old / Lou Rawls
Instrumental:
01-Bitter Sweet / MFSB
02-Love Is The Message / MFSB
03-Ferry Avenue / MFSB
04-Thank You Miss Scott / MFSB
05-A Million Milles Of The Ground / Dexter Wansel
06-No Greater Love / Leon Huff
07-Reality / Monk Montgomery
08-Opus-de-Funk / People's Choice
09-Mikey'd's / People's Choice
10-Soncere (The Infinite Hour Glass) / Michael Pedicin Jr.
Also there are some PIR tracks that includes some good swinging string and horns arrangements or some good scat vocals as Jean Carne, in fact jazz is a constant ingredient in practically all the PIR catalogue, but i name the ones that are very jazzy in structure, arrangements, etc. the whole song.
Peace & Soul Food |
Soul Sister (soul_sister)
6-Zenith
Username: soul_sister
Post Number: 1345
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 65.43.165.74
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 10:19 pm: �� | ��� |
Hi Manny;
This Is Your Life and Love Buddies both by Billy Paul.
S.S. |
everettinct (everett860)
2-Debutant
Username: everett860
Post Number: 24
Registered: 5-2004
Posted From: 206.213.209.31
| | Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 9:08 am: �� | ��� |
YOU (Happiness Is You) - Michael Pedicin Jr, featuring the Jones Girls...
Beautiful song. |
SDF (handsome)
6-Zenith
Username: handsome
Post Number: 454
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 170.118.158.14
| | Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 10:27 am: �� | ��� |
I Ain't Jivin', I'm Jammin'-Leon Huff
Handsome |
Garo (gary_james)
2-Debutant
Username: gary_james
Post Number: 30
Registered: 5-2004
Posted From: 192.234.106.2
| | Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 10:44 am: �� | ��� |
Although not on the PIR label, how about "People Make The World Go 'Round" by The Stylistics. Sounds like smooth Jazz to me! |
Manny (manny)
5-Doyen
Username: manny
Post Number: 388
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 217.124.52.144
| | Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 10:47 am: �� | ��� |
Hello Submarine to all!
Hey, Soul Sister, Everettinc and Handsome,
Many thanks for your response. I knows all the songs your mentioned, except the one by Michael Pedicin. I only got "Soncere" in a UK PIR compilation and his PIR LP is one of my "hard to find" albums list. I likes also some solo sax by Michael in Salsoul Orchestra as in "Gettaway".
I also likes "I Ain't Jivin". Perhaps I likes more "No Greater Love" because the first track i have heard so many times and the other only from three years on, when i find the album.
Peace & Soul Food |
DyvaNaye (westside314)
6-Zenith
Username: westside314
Post Number: 768
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 209.212.74.198
| | Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 10:57 am: �� | ��� |
Listen to the Clock On the Wall - Ojays
(The music is hauntingly beautiful)
Nights Over Egypt - Jones Girl
Easy, Easy - Teddy Pendergrass
Love Buddies, I Think Ill Stay Home Today, Ebony Woman...too many by Billy ...
My One and Only True Love, Love IS the Message, Summertime, ...- MFSB
Lets Groove, Show Me How to Dance, Let's GO, Disco - Archie Bells/Drells
more later... |
SDF (handsome)
6-Zenith
Username: handsome
Post Number: 459
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 170.118.158.14
| | Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 11:31 am: �� | ��� |
The World Will Sing Our Song-The Jones Girls
We're A Melody-The Jones Girls
Handsome |
caliluv (caliluv)
2-Debutant
Username: caliluv
Post Number: 23
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 63.251.57.2
| | Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 1:19 pm: �� | ��� |
M.F.S.B - Touch Me In The Morning; Poinciana; My One And Only Love; Something For Nothing
Lou Rawls - This Song Will Last Forever; Time; Hoochie Coochie Man; Jealous Lover; Lady Love; There Will Be Love
The Jones Girls - Get As Much Love As You Can; The World Will Sing Our Song; Ah Ah Ah Ah; Life Goes On; We're A Melody
Jerry Butler - Are You Happy; I Dig You Baby; Nothing Says I Love You; Hey, Western Union Man
Norman Harris - In Search For Peace Of Mind
Leon Huff - No Greater Love;
The O'Jays - I Should Be Your Lover; Sunshine; Don't Call Me Brother; You And Me; Stairway To Heaven; Time To Get Down; Who Am I
Phyllis Hyman - You Know How To Love Me; Somewhere In My Lifetime
Shirly Jones - Last Night I Needed Somebody
Teddy Pendergrass - Somebody Told Me; Easy, Easy; I'll Never See Heaven Again; Close The Door
Archie Bell & The Drells - Strategy
Dee Dee Sharp Gamble - I Believe In Love; Invitation; Touch My Life; Just As Long As I Know He's Mine
Dexter Wansel - Solutions; Time Is The Teacher; Dreams of Tomorrow; First Light In The Morning
The Ebonys - I'll Try; You're The Reason Why; It's Forever
The Intruders - (We'll Be) United; Together; Save The Children
Jean Carne - No Laughing Matter; I'm In Love Once Again; Don't Let It Go To Your Head; Start The Fire; Mystic Stranger; What's On Your Mind; Start The Fire
Harold Melvin & The Bluenotes - Be For Real; I'm Searching For A Love; I'm Weak For You; Is There A Place For Me
Three Degrees; Another Heartache; Distant Lover; Toast of Love; I Like Being A Woman |
SDF (handsome)
6-Zenith
Username: handsome
Post Number: 464
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 170.118.158.14
| | Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 1:52 pm: �� | ��� |
The Sweetest Pain-Dexter Wansel
I Gotta Find A Brand New Lover (Parts 1 & 2)-The Sweet Inspirations...Love the music track on this one!
Handsome |
Manny (manny)
5-Doyen
Username: manny
Post Number: 389
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 217.124.51.134
| | Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 2:24 pm: �� | ��� |
Hello Submarine again, phillybusters!
I see some of you mentioned tracks that are not in the PIR catalogue but are outside productions.
If we considered also these songs, i think the "jazzy" lists can be enormous!
Also grace to some of your lists i reconsidered some songs that i likes and also sounds to my ears very swinging and jazzy. I wanna to add:
-O'Jays: "Mi Favorite Person", "Big Gangster", "Don't Breakin' Us Up" and, perhaps the most swinging chorus by O'Jays in the last part of "Desire Me"
-Harold Melvin & The Blue Note's "Cabaret"
-People's Choice: "The Big Hurt" it's simultaneously jazzy and bluesy
-Bunny Sigler: "Sweeter Than The Berry" also jazzy-bluesy
-Lou Rawls:"You're The One" and "Pure Imagination"
-MFSB: "Zack's Fanfare", "I'm In Your Side", "Manhattan Skyline", "TLC"
-The last part in Dee Dee Sharp's "O-O-Child" with very good swing male chorus (by The Tymes!)
-Billy Paul: "Malorie", "When It's Your Time To Go", "I Was Married"
-Jerry Butler's "Coolin' Out"
-Jean Carne's "Free Love"
Peace! |
SDF (handsome)
6-Zenith
Username: handsome
Post Number: 468
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 170.118.158.14
| | Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 4:13 pm: �� | ��� |
Family Reunion-O'Jays
Let's Make A Baby-Billy Paul
These 2 songs sound like one & the same, same key, only differences are: words & slightly different music arrangements.
Anyone else notice this?
Handsome |
Manny (manny)
5-Doyen
Username: manny
Post Number: 393
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 217.124.51.201
| | Posted on Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 7:06 pm: �� | ��� |
Hi, Handsome!
I think that the relation betwen "Family Reunion" and "Let's Make A Baby" it's easy to see: Firsty a man and a woman decides to make a baby and subsequently, there are a family reunion (father, mother and son). Smile ! :-)
Seriously, the "tempo" it's similar, but the feeling, IMHO is different. The one by Billy it's, IMHO, the typical "corny" ballad and the one by O'Jays it's very cool, specially the intro. Usualy, Billy is more jazzy (in fact, the Jazz singer of PIR for excellence), but in comparison, "Family Reunion" is more jazz-flavoured.
You made me think in another two PIR tunes with very resemblance in rythm, tempo, etc.: Ebony's "Nation Time" and Lou Rawl's "Some Folks Never Lane".
Peace & Soul Food! |
Manny (manny)
5-Doyen
Username: manny
Post Number: 396
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 217.124.51.239
| | Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 10:43 am: �� | ��� |
I'm wrong, I really refered to "I'm So Glad I'm Me" by The Ebonys wich it's identical in rythm structure to "Some Folks Never Learn".
Peace! |
SDF (handsome)
6-Zenith
Username: handsome
Post Number: 477
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 170.118.158.14
| | Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 12:30 pm: �� | ��� |
Hey Manny!
Thanks for your comments.
Here's 2 other songs, kinda in the jazz vein:
I'm In Love Once Again-Jean Carn
The Sweetest Pain-Dexter Wansel
Handsome |
everettinct (everett860)
3-Pundit
Username: everett860
Post Number: 32
Registered: 5-2004
Posted From: 206.213.209.31
| | Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 12:33 pm: �� | ��� |
How about...
The Jones Girls - Love Don't Ever Say Goodbye
Great jazzy intro..... |
SDF (handsome)
6-Zenith
Username: handsome
Post Number: 478
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 170.118.158.14
| | Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 12:53 pm: �� | ��� |
everettinct, you are on a roll!
That is also Luther Vandross's favorite song too!
Handsome |
SDF (handsome)
6-Zenith
Username: handsome
Post Number: 481
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 170.118.158.14
| | Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 1:17 pm: �� | ��� |
I Can't Forget-Pati La Belle
Handsome |
Manny (manny)
5-Doyen
Username: manny
Post Number: 404
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 217.124.51.126
| | Posted on Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 3:18 pm: �� | ��� |
Hello Submarine again, jazzy-lovers!
Hey, "You Are Everettinct" and Handsome, many thanks for your responses, friends.
If we consider also some intro's, practically all the PIR catalogue can be considered as "jazzy". Some of my favorites:
-Vibraphone intro in The Intruder's "Sad Girl"
-Sax intro in Jean Carn's "Love Don't Comes Easy"
-Westmontgomerian guitar intro in O'Jays "Used To Be My Girl"
Peace & Soul Food (and Get Down With The Jazzy-Philly Sound) |
zebop (zebop)
4-Laureate
Username: zebop
Post Number: 116
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 205.188.116.138
| | Posted on Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 7:53 pm: �� | ��� |
Billy Paul-One Man's Junk
Jean Carn-You Are All I Need
The O'jays-My Favorite Person
Archie Bell and the Drells- Show Me How To Dance
Leon Huff-I Ain't Jivin' I'm Jammin'
Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes- To Be True
Dee Dee Sharp-I Love You Anyway
The Jones Girls-This Feeling's Killing Me/Nights Over Egypt/Life Goes On/Get As Much Love As You Can |
Alain Nguyen (soulgems)
3-Pundit
Username: soulgems
Post Number: 43
Registered: 7-2004
Posted From: 65.166.187.218
| | Posted on Monday, August 23, 2004 - 5:20 pm: �� | ��� |
Though it varies from time to time here at my favorite PIR tracks at the moment:
Archie Bell & the Drells: Don't let love get you down
Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes feat Sharon Page: You know how to make me feel so good
Archie Bell & The Drells: Where will you go when the party is over
The Futures: Ain't Got Time For Nuthin'
Teddy Pendergrass: Come On Over
Silk: Can't stop turning you on
Billy Paul: Bring the family back
Billy Paul: False faces
Shirley Jones: Do you have enough love
The Jackons: Show you the way to go
Jean Carn: Free love
The Intruders: I'll always love my mama
The Intruders: Win Place or Show
Dexter Wansel: The sweetest pain
Anthony White: Never repay you
Bunny Sigler: Dance to the music
On the jazzy side:
Dexter Wansel: I'll never forget
Leon Huff: Tight money
MFSB: Mysteries of the world
The Jones Girls: Nights over Egypt
Thad Jones & Mel Lewis: Don't you worry about a thing
Monk Montgomery: Bump de bump
Patti Labelle: The spirits in it
Jean Carn: Don't let it go to your head |
DyvaNaye (westside314)
6-Zenith
Username: westside314
Post Number: 801
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 209.212.74.198
| | Posted on Monday, August 23, 2004 - 6:20 pm: �� | ��� |
Treasure of My Life - Billy Paul
in fact all of the BP Jazz production on PIR are a smoker...'Billy Boy'...oh heck yeah... |
Manny (manny)
5-Doyen
Username: manny
Post Number: 408
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 217.124.52.28
| | Posted on Monday, August 23, 2004 - 6:21 pm: �� | ��� |
Hello again, Phillybusters!
Hey, Alain,
I'm glad for your post. It seems to me as you have the "Putpurri" album by Thad Jones & Mel Lewis. I read that includes a good cover of "For The Love Of Money".
Many coincidences in tastes in your first list as the good Bunny Sigler write-produced ballad by Shirley Jones or the other by Bunny Sigler, "Dance To The Music" it's very good and some psychedelic with those whispers and scat vocals at the end.
MFSB, Leon Huff and Dexter Wansel are for me not only the best fusion at PIR, but from the best fusion music in general. It's curious as many acid jazz artists have covered songs as "Don't Let It Go To Your Head" (Brand New Heavies) or "Nights Over Egypt" (Incognito).
Peace & Soul Food |
johneflat (johneflat)
4-Laureate
Username: johneflat
Post Number: 135
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 64.12.116.138
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 4:44 am: �� | ��� |
"BITTERSWEET" -MFSB
EVERYTHING PHYLLIS DID! |
Wonder B (wonder_b)
6-Zenith
Username: wonder_b
Post Number: 672
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 193.253.226.78
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 8:41 am: �� | ��� |
How about the Michael Pedicin album on PIR???
Wonder B |
here i am (here_i_am)
3-Pundit
Username: here_i_am
Post Number: 65
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 81.241.158.125
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 9:40 am: �� | ��� |
he..have you listened to " lonelier are fools "
" A woman needs a good man" from the " INTERNATIONAL and THREE DEGREES ALBUM....magic songs, beautifull harmonies....this is class! |
Manny (manny)
6-Zenith
Username: manny
Post Number: 411
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 217.124.51.139
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 12:08 pm: �� | ��� |
Hello to all, soulful friends!
Hey, Johneflat,
Despite the fact "Bittersweet" is a instrumental, got a "message" of real bittersweet mellow mood!! what a masterpiece!!
Hey, Wonder B,
If I have the chance to finally find the Michael Pedicin PIR album...! If all the LP got the same feel of "Soncere", I really need this album. Recently I find a web-site by Michael and in the discography don't appears nothing from his Philly period (PIR and Salsoul Orchestra collaborations).
Hey, Her I Am,
I allways have problems betwen the spanish edition as "With Love", the UK edition as "Take Good Care Of Yourself" and the US edition as "International" 3 D album. I got the UK edition that I believe includes the song you says. Anyway, the most jazzy, IMHO, in this album is "Long Lost Lover", especially for the westmongomerian guitar by Norman Harris but also for the swinging-sexy vocals.
Also the tracks "Philly Jump" and "Ain't No Reagge But Got Funky" by Instant Funk can be consider as fusion or jazz-funk.
Peace! |
DyvaNaye (westside314)
6-Zenith
Username: westside314
Post Number: 808
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 209.212.74.198
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 12:36 pm: �� | ��� |
My One and Only True Love - MFSB at their best. |
Manny (manny)
6-Zenith
Username: manny
Post Number: 412
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 217.124.51.139
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 24, 2004 - 1:56 pm: �� | ��� |
Hello, DyvaNaye!
Your taste is very jazzy!
I likes also "Treasure Of My Life", especially when the high register voice of Billy Paul it's so hard to distinguise of the alto sax, in the scat of the last part.
About "My One And Only Love", Vincent Montana is plethoric as the Norman Harris guitar!
Best Regards, Peace & Soul Food |