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  GO_GET_GONE_GIRL (gogogirl) 5-Doyen Username: gogogirl Post Number: 269 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 69.1.9.65 |
Greetings All, I know I just read where someone commented on the Dells. Excuse me but I can't find the post. I also have no access to the archives where I'm sure I would find a thread(s) on the Dells. How can true lovers of R&B/Soul music of groups have appreciated good music w/o including the Dells - as being ne of the truest Soul Singing Groups & Pioneers of all Soul history? Fifty plus years and counting. No member changes since 1960. The Dells. Speaking of them almost brings tears to mine eyes in that - I have always loved 'em and their music. I love them the same - and now realizing in retrospect - as I did the Spinners - O'Jays and Isley Brothers - and the like. Too much! Here ye - hear ye - for the "Mighty Dells" - LOL! What was it about this group that made you say - "Oh - What A Night?" http://www.soul-patrol.com/del ls/ http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/ dells/bio.jhtml (Message edited by gogogirl on August 12, 2004) (Message edited by gogogirl on August 12, 2004) | ||
Soul-Brother (soulbrother) 4-Laureate Username: soulbrother Post Number: 127 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.234.164.60 |
I'm a big fan of the Dells.. Marvin Junior is in the top 5 male voices for me...the passion in his voice..those long soaring notes, great group harmonies...and over 50 years..still class. Check out my webpage. http://www.soulcellar.co.uk/De lls.html http://www.soulcellar.co.uk/De llsDiscography.htm Shame on ya gogogirl, lol, not knowing the links Regards Barry | ||
David Meikle (david_meikle) 5-Doyen Username: david_meikle Post Number: 310 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 81.130.211.124 |
I saw the Dells in England several years ago and they are still MIGHTY. (Message edited by David_Meikle on August 13, 2004) | ||
TD (tmd) 2-Debutant Username: tmd Post Number: 22 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 69.170.13.72 |
"There Is" is a pure Motown song- in the Four Top mode of Reach Out. It ranks in my top 20 songs of all time | ||
Kdubya (paladin) 5-Doyen Username: paladin Post Number: 187 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 206.185.64.23 |
One of the finest vocal groups in the history of soul music : Always Together The Love We Had Stays On My Mind Bring back The Love of Yesterday My Pretending Days are Over Passionate Breezes Can We Skip That part ? OOO-OOO- Ilove You I'm In Love I wish it was Me You Loved Love is Missing from Our Lives/w Dramatics Just a few of my all time favorites.....I must admit a little prejudice since they are generally considered to be from Chicago ( Harvey Illinois)and I grew up listening to their music. I have also had the pleasure of meeting them and their hospitality is beyong reproach. The Mighty, Mighty Dells..........a class act if there ever was one. Kdubya | ||
~medusa~ (~medusa) 6-Zenith Username: ~medusa Post Number: 498 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 68.249.44.6 |
I like the Dells too,(PLEASE DON'T BE MAD AT ME 4 SAYING THIS)~ but it's just something about that Tenor Guys' voice that makes me wanna sew rice together...It's either too high or he reminds me of a whining cat in heat or something. | ||
Kdubya (paladin) 5-Doyen Username: paladin Post Number: 189 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 206.185.64.23 |
Dont start slammin Johnnie now, he was the last new addition to the group (1960 I believe)and his voice in counterpoint to the big fella make their sound unique. I admit it takes some getting used to but they are who they are and I wouldn't change a thing about them. One love, peace and hairgrease to you Medusa..........you have a greta sense of humor........rice ? cat in heat ? too funny.............now let nme dedicate a true Dells classic to you ......"I cant do enough" Kdubya | ||
isaiah imani (isaiah) 2-Debutant Username: isaiah Post Number: 16 Registered: 8-2004 Posted From: 170.224.224.134 |
Oh, Shuga Brown, you can come up with some stuff, can'tcha(smile!) Makes you wanna "sew rice together"??? Damn, that's some terrible stuff, but I definitely get your point(smile!)And you aren't the first person I've heard say this about Johnny Carter, either... I've heard this on and off the SDF forum, so everybody can't be wrong... We certainly wont be comparing him to Kendricks and Thomkins, will we??? Peace! Isaiah | ||
Soul Sister (soul_sister) 6-Zenith Username: soul_sister Post Number: 1252 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.43.165.74 |
Medusa; I never thought of it that way but I know what you mean, LOL!!! Here is a photo of Johnny Carter from a couple years ago:  | ||
Soul Sister (soul_sister) 6-Zenith Username: soul_sister Post Number: 1253 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.43.165.74 |
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GO_GET_GONE_GIRL (gogogirl) 5-Doyen Username: gogogirl Post Number: 270 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 69.1.9.65 |
Morning All, Hey Soul-Brother. What is your "Soul Brother" number? LOL! I do appreciate your posting your link to the Staples Singers thread and this one. Much obliged. You have a great website. Good on you too for caring so much and sharing so much. LOL Medusa. Sewing rice together was a good one. Reminds of of the old riddle - "Imagine sliding down the edge of a razor blade into a pool of alcohol." LOL! And of course that bit has nothing to do with Mr. Carter's voice. I love his voice because he is who he is and gives what the good Lord gave him to give. We all have our talents - and not all of them will be pleasing to some. To each its own for real. Most of the singers/artists I love and have loved are/were all unique and had that individuality going for themselves. It would be a bummer if everyone were the same. The Dells. Of course I love so much of the Dells music. How about - "Standing Ovation?" My God! "Stand Up - Give a Hand" "Always Together" was a masterpiece - and we slow grinded off of that one. "The Love We Had Stays On My Mind" - brilliant. "If you were a mirror - it could not be clearer." Help. That lyric can't be right. LOL! (Message edited by gogogirl on August 13, 2004) | ||
GO_GET_GONE_GIRL (gogogirl) 5-Doyen Username: gogogirl Post Number: 271 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 69.1.9.65 |
All, Morning SS. Bless you for putting up pics. They look great. You are a great photographer by the way. What are you all doing this weekend? Whatever it is - I Wish You(s) Love - Peace & Happiness. Again congratulations to the Dells for their induction into the HOF - 2004. Bravo - and may God continue to love them "Forever." "That's how long I'm gonna love you." | ||
dvdmike (dvdmike) 5-Doyen Username: dvdmike Post Number: 261 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.165.198.19 |
Johnny Carter once told me that he sang the high parts on The Flamingos' "I Only Have Eyes For You." After all, he was an original Flamingo. He joined The Dells in 1960 after the departure of Johnny Funches. | ||
~medusa~ (~medusa) 6-Zenith Username: ~medusa Post Number: 503 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 68.79.167.188 |
AWWW, I really don't mean to say anything bad about the Mighty Dells, they're great and I mean great, but it's just that voice, U know. ...but I'm glad no one took offense, I didn't mean any harm. Thanx 4 your mellow understanding. Y'all know me 2 good, especially U Isaiah.(LOL) | ||
Soul Sister (soul_sister) 6-Zenith Username: soul_sister Post Number: 1260 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.43.165.74 |
Hi GoGo; Just gonna cool out this week-end, maybe hang out in the backyard pool weather permitting. Watchu up to? Did you see the olden day thread lately, lol!~!? It's time YOU put up your photos in "cornrows", lol!!! S.S. | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 1887 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
Hi everyone, DVD Mike: I too always thought that Johnny sang those high parts on I Only Have Eyes For You. My bubble was burst when I read in several books that Guitarist Terry Johnson actually sang those parts. I knew that these folks had to be lying, so, I did a timeline & some research. Here's what I came up with: Johnny Carter began singing with The Flamingos in 1950. Their first recordings were done in 1953, on Chance Records. Their last Chance recording was in 1953 & that year, they moved to Parrot Records. They recorded for Parrot from 1953 to 1954. Johnny usually shared leads with original lead singer, Sollie McElroy who left in 1954. They then moved to Checker/Chess, where they recorded from 1955 to 1956, with McElroys' replacement Nate Nelson & Johnny sharing leads. At that point, the lineup changed again. Nate Nelson went solo, Zeke Carey & Johnny were drafted & the group basically broke up. In 1957, The Flamingos reformed. Nate Nelson rejoined, Tommy Hunt came on board to join the last two original Flamingos, Jake Carey & Paul Wilson. They signed with Decca that year, however the group had problems with Checker, as Nate had signed a solo contract with them. That ended their affiliation with Decca. After being released from the service, Johnny Carter sang some backup on Bo Diddley recordings. From about 1957 to 1960, Johnny added his falsetto to songs like "Hey Bo Diddley" & "Say Boss Man" & 1960s "You Know I Love You", "Love Me" as well as "The Gunslinger" & "In The Spotlight" LPs. In 1958, they signed with End Records, which was based in New York. They added Terry Johnson to this lineup, which were the ones who recorded I Only Have Eyes For You during early 1959. In 1958, The Dells were involved in a serious car accident. They shut things down & didn't get back together until 1960. Their original lead Johnny Funches refused to come back, choosing to maintain a steady job to support his family. At that point Johnny Carter joined The Dells, where he remains to this day, 44 years later!!! Note: Many people have also forgotten that Johnny Carter also was a hell of a bass singer as well!! I saw The Dells at The Beacon & Johnny sang some bass & the interplay between him & Chuck was priceless. (Message edited by juicefree20 on August 13, 2004) | ||
Kevin Goins - KevGo (kevgo) 4-Laureate Username: kevgo Post Number: 158 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 64.33.151.199 |
The Dells' 1968 LP "There Is" ranks as one of my most favorite albums of all time. Great tunes ("There Is", "Stay In My Corner"), wonderful singing and some of the best arrangements/productions to come from the Windy City (thank you Bobby Miller, Charles Stepney and company). Kevin Goins - KevGo | ||
mhc (mcrenshaw) 1-Arriviste Username: mcrenshaw Post Number: 8 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.164.170.124 |
What about "Wear It On Our Face"? How beautiful is that one? | ||
~medusa~ (~medusa) 6-Zenith Username: ~medusa Post Number: 509 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 68.249.240.101 |
I'm not sure what Album, but they had a nice song "I Touched A Dream". | ||
dvdmike (dvdmike) 5-Doyen Username: dvdmike Post Number: 265 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.253.181.163 |
"I Only Have Eyes For You" by The Flamingos was recorded on October 31, 1958 at either Bell Sound Studios or Regent Sound Studios in NYC. I don't know who actually produced the session, but the arranger was Sammy Lowe. End released the single in April 1959 at it peaked at #3 on Billboard's Hot R&B Sides chart and #11 on the Hot 100. The song was written by Harry Warren and Al Dubin in 1933 for the 1934 Busby Berkeley Warner Brothers film musical "Dames" starring Dick Powell and Ruby Keeler. Powell sang the song in the movie. Several artists recorded the song in 1934 including Eddy Duchin & His Orchestra, but Ben Selvin had a the biggest hit, taking to #2 on Billboard's pop chart. | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 1907 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
Hi Medusa, I Touched A Dream is also the title of the LP.nIt came out in 1980 & has a couple of nice ballads, Passionate Breezes & Look At Us Now. It also contains the Disco hit, All About The Paper, which Gene Chandler also recorded. | ||
Don (don) 6-Zenith Username: don Post Number: 611 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.61.156 |
Correction Johnny Carter did not sing the high falsetto on "I only have eyes for you", it was Tommy Hunt. And after Tommy got out of the group Terry Johnson sung the high falsetto on the tune later. PS Another fact is never mention is The Flamingos started playing their own musicial instruments on their End label recordings. They we're the first vocal group to do this. Don | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 1912 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
Hey Don, You've just brought an interesting wrinkle to this. Most of the Soul research books credit Terry Johnson as the singer of those wonderful notes! This is becoming a musical mystery here. It's like a whodunit, for sure!! Now, I don't know what to think. | ||
Kev-Lo (7273747576) 5-Doyen Username: 7273747576 Post Number: 197 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 4.236.36.36 |
Hi this is Kev-Lo yes the Dells were outstanding.I did get to see them several times in concert and they were great.It's funny that the THERE IS LP been mentioned because I was just playing it last night | ||
SisDetroit (sis) 6-Zenith Username: sis Post Number: 415 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.43.206.95 |
The Dells, along with the O'Jays and The Whispers are performing tonight at DTE Energy Music Theatre in Auburn Hills. This will be a great show. The Temptations are also there. | ||
dvdmike (dvdmike) 5-Doyen Username: dvdmike Post Number: 270 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.253.196.80 |
Johnny Carter said he did, so I took his word for it. | ||
Lady Mystique (ladymystique) 6-Zenith Username: ladymystique Post Number: 590 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.33.227.92 |
Oh yes the Dells are fantastic! Nothing floors me like STAY IN MY CORNER...when the co-lead holds that note for a long time like that at the end! WOW! | ||
Heikki (heikki) 4-Laureate Username: heikki Post Number: 106 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.17.193.223 |
Hi! On their second and hit edition of Stay In My Corner in '68, Marvin streches out for 17 seconds, but on their re-cut of the song on the 20th Century in '81 he holds that note for 30 seconds. Marvin: "...on stage with that one note I have sometimes got close to 40 seconds." Best regards Heikki | ||
Don (don) 6-Zenith Username: don Post Number: 615 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.183.49 |
Mike "I ain't mad at cha, never". Don | ||
isaiah imani (isaiah) 2-Debutant Username: isaiah Post Number: 29 Registered: 8-2004 Posted From: 64.12.116.138 |
All these years I never knew that Marvin Junior wrote Oh What A Night... I'm wondering what this group would've really been had he devoted a little more time to writting songs for the group? As GOOD as the Dells have been, when I look at their catalogue compared to their longevity, I see some inconsistency... The way they could blow, all they needed was someone to focus on writting for them, and maybe we wouldn't be talking about the Tempts as the greatest of all male R&B groups... Just a thought... Peace! Isaiah | ||
Don (don) 6-Zenith Username: don Post Number: 619 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.182.105 |
I didn't think/felt it was fair when The Flamingos we're inducted into The Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame that Sollie McElroy wasn't reconized and was left out as being a member and contributed. I'm not hating on nobody, I'm just saying the situation was messed up that his contribution went by unregarded, is all I'am saying. You all know that's just like Martha Reeves not getting her just due & respect and being aired on the Motown 45 special. I still thinks she's a wonderful and talented woman without question. I remember when Harvey Fuqua & The Moonglows we're inducted, I know it's been awhile since I seen the broadcast, but didn't I see Chuck Barksdale (Johnny Carter I think?) upon stage accepting there awards, that was great and all. But what about Marvin Gaye didn't he contribute then? I'm not rocking the boat, I'm just trying to understand this whole scenerio? To be sort of questioning this with no disrespect to others. That alot of recordings w/ Chuck and Marvin weren't even used and stayed in the can for yrs and resurfaced 1 or 2 decades ago. I admit when the RnRHOF first began, I thought the rules was about about long gavity, hit record or a creative minor miss and for an artist or a group in some compassity of still being around. I don't get it? The Moonglows may of had some hits but I don't see what all the hoopla was all about. It's like I been to enough of the doowop shows although I've never seen them at the starting point of the whole revival shows in the very beginning, until recently. Maybe Harvey & his Moonglows we're around touring, maybe in some designated cities and regions. I thought seeing The Chi-Lites and The Dells getting their awards we're great and that's the truth I speak. Although I think Mr. Terry Johnson did lend apart of his falsetto to "I Only Have Eyes For You", but anybody can hear Mr. Hunt on top of that harmony. Sollie was there and he said so himself. Don Don | ||
Heikki (heikki) 4-Laureate Username: heikki Post Number: 108 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.17.193.223 |
Isaiah! I wholeheartedly concur with your idea. Had the Dells had a great producer after Don Davis - say, Gamble & Huff, with whom they were close to working together in '72 - who knows what would have happened. I like the Temptations a lot, but for me the Dells simply is the greatest vocal group in the history of soul music. Hi Don! Chuck Barksdale moonlighted in Otis Williams and the Charms in '55 and '56 (and thus missed the first recorded version of Oh What A Night), but he also was a member of the Moonglows at a certain point. Chuck: "That was in '59, when I hooked up back with Harvey Fuqua, who had just brought another group to Chicago called the Marquees. In that group was Marvin Gaye, Chester Simmons, who was also a bass singer, James Nolan and Reese Palmer. They were then called the New Moonglows." Johnny Carter, of course, was picked up from the Flamingos. "We had all been playing in church together. I was on all those early recordings - Golden Teardrops, Ko Ko Mo, I'll Be Home - up till I Only Have Eyes For You; and I arranged all of those songs." Johnny was first co-leading with Sollie McElroy and then Nate Nelson, but was forced to step out in '56 because of Uncle Sam. Best regards Heikki | ||
Kevin Goins - KevGo (kevgo) 4-Laureate Username: kevgo Post Number: 168 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 64.33.151.80 |
Heikki: Uhhh...."Passionate Breezes", "I Touched A Dream" and the 1980s recut version of "Stay In My Corner" were produced by Carl Davis & Eugene Record with arrangements by Sonny Sanders (with some help from Tom Tom 84)... Are you saying that these men weren't on the same level as Don Davis? Kevin Goins - KevGo | ||
dvdmike (dvdmike) 5-Doyen Username: dvdmike Post Number: 276 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.253.188.222 |
Actually Heikki, Gamble & Huff did produce an album on The Dells in 1992 for Philadelphia International, but unfortunately it didn't do very well. | ||
Heikki (heikki) 4-Laureate Username: heikki Post Number: 110 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.17.193.223 |
Hi Kevin! You have a point, and those records are excellent. And remember, I love almost everything the Dells have cut. However, I was here emphasizing the commercial success, and their last really big hit was with Don Davis, Give Your Baby A Standing Ovation, in '73. Also, my all-time Dells album is The Dells with Don Davis; I like it even more than There Is (which comes second). Best regards Heikki | ||
GO_GET_GONE_GIRL (gogogirl) 5-Doyen Username: gogogirl Post Number: 282 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 69.1.9.65 |
All, BET - the Five Heartbeats - just came on - per my daughter. LOL~ | ||
Don (don) 6-Zenith Username: don Post Number: 622 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.55.156 |
Hi Heikki, The story about Chuck moonlighting with future Tempt Otis is not always brought up in many books, and I find that fact to be intruging. I read Otis' book, but don't ever recall him saying so. If he said so I may have missed something though I find it fascinating. Though I find the story about Johnny Carter to be true in this regard, that the Flamingos we're working on the song before it was ever recorded, eh. I heard. Don | ||
Heikki (heikki) 4-Laureate Username: heikki Post Number: 111 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.17.193.223 |
Hi Don! The Charms' Otis Williams is a different person, not the Otis of the Temptations fame. Chuck (about his stint with the Charms): "In '55 The Dells were not doing very well. We were in Detroit. There was a group called Otis Williams and the Charms. They had a couple of hit records - Hearts Of Stone, Ivory Tower - and they were doing very well. Their bass singer - either he quit, or Otis fired him, or whatever it was - left the group. Otis said 'hey, what are you doing. I mean, you're not making any money over there with the Dells, blah, blah, blah... I can do you this, I can do you that'. I said 'fantastic'. Little did I know that I was about to blow one of the most important sessions in my life..." Best regards Heikki | ||
GO_GET_GONE_GIRL (gogogirl) 5-Doyen Username: gogogirl Post Number: 287 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 69.1.9.65 |
All, I enjoyed the movie = Five Heartbeats last nite. Now was everything in that movie depicted correctly? If not - then why would the Dells sign off on it? Matter-of-fact - an up to date pic of the Dells was used in the closing credits. And for God's Sake - why did the movie end the way it did? The Dells are still performing - and the movie depicted the group breaking up - and two brothers not speaking for years. Now what was up w/that? Heikki - thanks for your input on this thread. I didn't know that you have so much history in the biz - and were a mover and shaker back in those early days. You go boy! (Message edited by gogogirl on August 17, 2004) | ||
isaiah imani (isaiah) 3-Pundit Username: isaiah Post Number: 35 Registered: 8-2004 Posted From: 170.224.224.134 |
Heikki, what can I say, I agree with you!!! What ever did the Tempts leads put on paper that was a hit??? As you, Don, Kev, and DvDMike pointed out, they did have some great producers, but their careers - compared to their peers - is sort of spotty... That's not a reflection on their talent and ability, however... It's more reflective of the fact that they didn't have a producer to work with them consistently - and Marv Junior didn't utilize or realize his true potential as a writer...(smile!) Peace! Isaiah | ||
isaiah imani (isaiah) 3-Pundit Username: isaiah Post Number: 36 Registered: 8-2004 Posted From: 216.148.246.70 |
GoGoGirl, rectify if I'm wrong, but...was the Heartbeats movie intended as a fictional bio of the Dells? I know that they provided some beautiful singing for the film, but... What's interesting is that there's a scene in both the Heartbeats and Tempts Forever flicks that is identical, and though I believe in the authenticity of such an experience in those days, I don't know which to believe... Remember the scene where Leon chases the Rednecks down the road with a pipe, cussin' and fussin'??? He did the same scene in Tempts Forever... Seems like some plagiarism going on... Peace! Isaiah | ||
GO_GET_GONE_GIRL (gogogirl) 5-Doyen Username: gogogirl Post Number: 289 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 69.1.9.65 |
Hey All, I hear 'ya Isaiah. But I still wonder why the Dells signed off on such fiction. If it was such fiction - could the film not have been done w/more positives instead of the negatives? I think I know the answer to that. When something is taken away from the original/truth - is when there can't help but be part fictional. What was the point of the movie if not to describe how the group started - the middle and the ending of their story? That is what an outline of a story needs. And if the film wasn't about the Dells - then who was it about - and what was the point in producing it? Anyway - evidently the Dells had no problem with the negatives shown in the film - and whether or not they were truths - half-truths or lies. I also noticed the scene you mentioned in both flicks. There were a couple of other similarities in the two films also and IMO. Common denominator = humanity. PS - I noticed on the Motown Boards where Harry W. closed the thread on the Tony Turner book. LOL! Mannnn - you talkin' 'bout folks giving their opinions on "The Lies" told by Tony and/or others was something else indeed. Although God gave us all two ears - meaning He felt listening was more important than speaking at times. Having one mouth means - one should refrain from speaking about some things one knows nothing about. LOL! | ||
Don (don) 6-Zenith Username: don Post Number: 625 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.77.39.16 |
Heikki, I was confused and assume that Chuck sanged with Otis Williams of The Tempts or before a Tempt. I thought this was another of his groups before the Sabrinians/Distants. I didn't know you we're speaking of someone else? Can you enlighten me on a little history of Otis Williams & The Charms, ok? Don | ||
Heikki (heikki) 4-Laureate Username: heikki Post Number: 112 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.17.193.223 |
Hi Don! I'm not really that much of an expert on the Charms. I only have about a dozen of their early recordings on tape. I tried to search for more information on the Internet, but there's not much, really (just a few lines in All Music Guide, too). I'm sure on this Forum someone knows the history of this group better than me. The doowop quintet came from Cincinnati, first recorded for Rockin' in 1953, but had their biggest hits on DeLuxe between '54 and '57: Hearts Of Stone, Ling Ting Tong, Two Hearts, Ivory Tower and United. Later Otis went to record country music. I just checked my albums, and noticed that I have one album by Otis called Greatest Hits on Stop Records, but this was an early 70s effort, re-recordings of the old Charms hits. I don't know, what happened to Otis after that. ------------- A few comments from the Dells boys on the Five Heartbeats - Chuck: "This was not supposed to be a story about the Dells from the beginning. This was supposed to be a story about a stand-up vocal group, black, that was gonna be a comedy... When Robert Townsend mentioned 'comedy', Marvin Junior chimed in and said 'hey, wait a minute, ain't nothing funny being a black stand-up vocal group. It's a major struggle, and the struggle continues today'... Robert said 'do you mind, if I travel around with you. I like what I'm hearing so far'." "He travelled with us for the next six weeks. He watched our comradery, he heard us argue, saw us work on stage, riding on a bus, have dinner together. He took that and literally changed the script." Marvin: "That was 85 % our story. When it was in the theatres, it was not that successful, but when they put it on video and on televisio, then it became very popular..." Michael: "Don't ever let any other group or anybody else tell you that the movie was about them. Robert Townsend travelled with the Dells. Marvin told Robert things, and he was taking it all in... So the story came from the Dells." Best regards Heikki | ||
Don (don) 6-Zenith Username: don Post Number: 632 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.56.31 |
Hi Heikki, some info is better than no info. Thanks Don |
