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Jimmy Mack (luke) 6-Zenith Username: luke
Post Number: 521 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 64.12.116.138
| Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 9:33 am: �� | ��� |
Dionne; Luther(isnt he eligible now per 25 years recording?maybe not);Darlene Love; Sweet Inspirations, Jerry Butler. Many more to come when I wake up more. |
Vickie (vickie) 3-Pundit Username: vickie
Post Number: 62 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 198.81.26.46
| Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 10:01 am: �� | ��� |
Tammi Terrell |
Soul Sister (soul_sister) 6-Zenith Username: soul_sister
Post Number: 1231 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.43.165.74
| Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 10:50 am: �� | ��� |
Groups: THE O'JAYS THE MANHATTANS LITTLE ANTHONY & THE IMPERIALS THE FIVE STAIRSTEPS Solo Artists: OTIS REDDING GLADYS KNIGHT S.S. |
Reese (reese) 4-Laureate Username: reese
Post Number: 131 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 12.15.169.219
| Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 11:59 am: �� | ��� |
Soul Sister: Otis Redding is already a member of the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame. In fact, I think he was inducted by Little Richard, who sang his DOCK OF THE BAY and I CAN'T TURN YOU LOOSE at the ceremony. And Gladys is as well, as a member of the Pips. But unless she gets a string of solo hits, I don't think she'll be inducted as a solo artist. Artists I'd like to see inducted: Diana Ross (solo) Dionne Warwick Patti LaBelle and the Bluebelles/Labelle The Marvelettes Mary Wells |
Gary (gary) 4-Laureate Username: gary
Post Number: 119 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 172.138.192.188
| Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 11:59 am: �� | ��� |
Hi Soul Sis...your choices are right on. BTW, Otis Redding was inducted into the RRHOF in 1989. I beleive Luther will be eligble in 2006. |
Soul Sister (soul_sister) 6-Zenith Username: soul_sister
Post Number: 1241 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.43.165.74
| Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 12:04 pm: �� | ��� |
Hi Gary; Thanks for the 411, I wasn't possitive about Otis. Take Care, S.S. |
Soul Sister (soul_sister) 6-Zenith Username: soul_sister
Post Number: 1242 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.43.165.74
| Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 12:06 pm: �� | ��� |
Hi Reese; Glad to hear that too!! I agree with you on your Patti & The Bluebells choice. S.S. |
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20
Post Number: 1874 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162
| Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 8:01 pm: �� | ��� |
Personally speaking, I think that the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame sucks. First of all, its very NAME practically insures that the majority of great Soul artists & groups will find election to be extremely difficult. In the 50s, Rock & Roll was essentially watered down "RACE" RECORDS" ie. RHYTHM AND BLUES. Around the 60s, when Elvis went TOTALLY MOR POP, & the advent of the British Invasion, good old "ROCK & ROLL", essentially meant POP & ROCK. That essentially relegated SOUL & RHYTHM & BLUES to step-brother status. Rock & Roll became the stomping grounds for many POP artists. A look at the charts will prove that. When you consider the history & origins of Rock & Roll, how in the world did POP & ROCK become so dominant?? If as history tells us, Rock & Roll derived from R&B, can someone please explain to me how the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame has become the home of such soulful singers as The Beach Boys, The Beatles, The Four Seasons & other basically POP groups??? And let's not talk about the solo acts!!! As long as the present criteria remain in place, the ORIGINAL Rock & Rollers...the R&B pioneers & Soulmen will always get short shrift. They should change the name to the "POP Hall Of Fame". That would be a more accurate depiction. It's sad when you consider that the R&B Pioneers were the orignators of the genre. It's as though they're begging for crumbs off the table. Then when a well respected group like The Dells FINALLY gain admittance to its hallowed halls, they're treated like an after thought & described as a "50s DOO WOP Group". As though their 60s & 70s hits never existed. These are the type of geniuses, the type of "experts" running the whole shebang. As far as I'm concerned, they have have it. And they can stick it as well. |
Jimmy Mack (luke) 6-Zenith Username: luke
Post Number: 523 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 205.188.116.139
| Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 8:03 pm: �� | ��� |
Me too--Bluebelles and LaBElle have been groundbreakers and hugely talented and even have a songwriter which the Hall of Fame loves--Nona. |
Kev-Lo (7273747576) 5-Doyen Username: 7273747576
Post Number: 192 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 4.231.245.116
| Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 9:15 pm: �� | ��� |
Hi this is Kev-Lo there's so many who are still not there Five Stairsteps Delfonics Linda Jones Billy Stewart Joe Tex |
Lady Mystique (ladymystique)
6-Zenith Username: ladymystique
Post Number: 547 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.33.227.92
| Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 9:34 pm: �� | ��� |
Kev-lo I can dig it...too many are left off for the HOF. |
Gil (gil)
4-Laureate Username: gil
Post Number: 105 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 68.19.57.247
| Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 9:44 pm: �� | ��� |
Dionne Warwick |
TD (tmd) 2-Debutant Username: tmd
Post Number: 21 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 69.170.13.72
| Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 10:21 pm: �� | ��� |
America E. L. O. Supertramp Tommy James Tom Waites Marvaletts Jr. Walker Monkees |
Mark Speck (mark_speck) 4-Laureate Username: mark_speck
Post Number: 127 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 63.188.136.151
| Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 10:39 pm: �� | ��� |
Soul-wise, I'll agree with what's been posted and add the O'Jays (who were up for nomination recently and failed to make the grade). Others: The Hollies The Moody Blues Mitch Ryder & the Detroit Wheels The Turtles Paul Revere & the Raiders Neil Diamond Neil Sedaka Chicago I would love to include acts like the Beau Brummels and the Zombies to that list, but I suspect that the Hall of Lame would just write them off as 'cult artists'. Best, Mark |
Eli (phillysoulman) 6-Zenith Username: phillysoulman
Post Number: 1265 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.163.57.185
| Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 11:30 pm: �� | ��� |
I have a problem with the RRHOF being in Cleveland because as the FALSE story goes, Allen Freed , having originally been a Cleveland Dj,. is given the credit for coining the term 'rock and roll" This is a blatant lie!!! We all know that "rock and roll" has been used by African Americans as a metaphor for sexual intercourse for decades before Freed was even born!! Having visited the RRHOF last summer, I have to say that the percentage of Af Am artists represented there is extremely low. If you want Hendrix and BB King.., Chuck Berry,well, they are there. If you want the Supremes..well, they are there and not much else. |
BJL (bjl) 3-Pundit Username: bjl
Post Number: 40 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 217.205.87.151
| Posted on Friday, August 13, 2004 - 9:14 am: �� | ��� |
I've never understood why some people seem so concerned that a particular Soul/R&B singer is or isn't in the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame. Might as well try and get Stevie Wonder into some Jazz Hall Of Fame - it would be just as pointless, IMO. Who needs the "seal of approval" from the RRHOF anyway? |
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20
Post Number: 1893 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162
| Posted on Friday, August 13, 2004 - 8:44 pm: �� | ��� |
BJL: THERE IT IS!!!! You took the words right out of my mouth!! Think about it: they don't call it the Soul, R&B or Funk Hall Of Fame, do they?? What more do we need to know about it. The name says it all as far as I'm concerned. Like I said, they can shove it. Hell, for as many records as he "borrowed" from the original Rock & Rollers, Pat Boone should be the President. Keeping it real, that's what that place is all about. It sure isn't for our R&B pioneers. |
Don (don) 6-Zenith Username: don
Post Number: 608 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.58.77
| Posted on Friday, August 13, 2004 - 9:57 pm: �� | ��� |
The O'Jays...Four Tops...Teddy Pendergrass...Rick James...The JB's...Manhattans...Little Anthony & Imperials...Kool & The Gang...The Delfonics...The Stylistics...Gladys Knight & The Pips...Jerry Butler...Smokey Robinson...Luther Vandross Don |
Ron Murphy (ron_murphy) 4-Laureate Username: ron_murphy
Post Number: 119 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.42.90.140
| Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2004 - 12:20 am: �� | ��� |
as I have said when this topic was discussed before when country great Johnny Cash was voted in ,that the name should be changed to The Music Hall Of Fame. now don't misunderstand me, I have nothing agaist Johnny Cash, he wrote and sang some great music but something is wrong with the process when some pioneer greats can't get in and he does, so that's why the name needs to be changed and then I could understand it a little bit better. |
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20
Post Number: 1902 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162
| Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2004 - 1:05 am: �� | ��� |
Hi Ron, I can agree with that 1000%. Even if they did that, guess what?? Groups like The Whispers, etc would still have an extremely long & difficult time gaining admittance. They need to change some of the criteria, whatever it is. Most importantly, they need a better cross section of voters. These "experts" that are doing the voting seem not to get it at all. I mean, they called The Dells a "50s Doo Wop group"!!! Then gave them all of a minute to sum up a outstanding 50 year career!!! What blatant disrespect & a slap in the face to all of us who love that Classic Soul. It seems like the only thing these folks know about Soul is Seoul, North Korea!!! |
C Bell/Eric (c_belleric) 2-Debutant Username: c_belleric
Post Number: 11 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 4.165.159.119
| Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2004 - 1:44 am: �� | ��� |
The Ventures |
Mark Speck (mark_speck) 4-Laureate Username: mark_speck
Post Number: 129 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 63.188.113.174
| Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2004 - 10:41 am: �� | ��� |
Junior Walker and any Funk Brothers not already inducted. Best, Mark |
The 70s Supremes (8supremes) 1-Arriviste Username: 8supremes
Post Number: 5 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 68.126.121.217
| Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2004 - 12:30 pm: �� | ��� |
I recently visited the Rock Hall specifically to view The Suprems Gowns exhibit. The Gown display was amazing @50 gowns, some in complete sets, all in fairly good shape. Some wear but in great condition for costumes over 30 years old. In general I was very disappointed with the rest of the museum. The museum was much smaller than I had expected and does not seem to have much room to expand or add other inductees. The majority of floor space was dedicated to either Jimmy Hendrix and The Beatles. There was only one small widow display of Motown memorabila on permanent display. What I found disturbing was the ammount of space alloted for non-inductees. They had clothing from the likes of Brittney Spears,Christina Aguilera, The Back Street Boys, TLC, Janet Jackson, Hanson, etc.... If I had not gone specifically for the Supremes display I would have been highly disappointed. I will most likely never spend the money to go to the Rock Hall again, especially since I traveled from Los Angeles. |
Lucy (lucy) 2-Debutant Username: lucy
Post Number: 27 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 204.210.159.134
| Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2004 - 10:57 pm: �� | ��� |
The Four Tops were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1990. |
Lady Mystique (ladymystique)
6-Zenith Username: ladymystique
Post Number: 589 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.33.227.92
| Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2004 - 11:28 pm: �� | ��� |
70s Supremes...isn't it something that these newbies get everything handed to them? |
Moe (moe) 5-Doyen Username: moe
Post Number: 225 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.140.8.177
| Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2004 - 8:26 pm: �� | ��� |
Hi Everyone, I was in Chicago this weekend (minus Ralph) when Patti Labelle was waiting for an elevator at the hotel with me. NO ONE (and I mean no one) was allowed to get into the elevator with her. There were some fans that were very disappointed!! She, I believe, was doing a benefit there. |
Moe (moe) 5-Doyen Username: moe
Post Number: 227 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.140.8.177
| Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2004 - 8:34 pm: �� | ��� |
BTW....who should be in the Rock & Roll HOF? All the Funks, of course............. EVERY ONE OF THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Charise (mistrivia1) 5-Doyen Username: mistrivia1
Post Number: 366 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 198.81.26.46
| Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2004 - 8:40 pm: �� | ��� |
Moe, that was probably a good thing, because some people do not know how to act and get too excited and bad things happen, if you know what I mean! |
Moe (moe) 5-Doyen Username: moe
Post Number: 228 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.140.8.177
| Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2004 - 8:54 pm: �� | ��� |
Charise, THAT....is an understatement!!!! |
Don (don) 6-Zenith Username: don
Post Number: 618 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.77.36.23
| Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2004 - 9:01 pm: �� | ��� |
THE DRAMATICS, THE FUNK BROS & MFSB!!!! Don Chi-Town |
marilyn (marilyn) 1-Arriviste Username: marilyn
Post Number: 7 Registered: 8-2004 Posted From: 209.142.136.38
| Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2004 - 10:52 pm: �� | ��� |
Tammi Terrell, Barbara Mason, Teddy Pendergrass, & The Intruders Marilyn |
NYC Diva (nyc_diva) 3-Pundit Username: nyc_diva
Post Number: 43 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 4.237.216.110
| Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2004 - 11:00 pm: �� | ��� |
Eddie Kendricks...SOLO Dusty Springfield The Commodores |
Charise (mistrivia1) 5-Doyen Username: mistrivia1
Post Number: 373 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 198.81.26.46
| Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2004 - 11:09 pm: �� | ��� |
Being that there are so many talented artists, many of whom you all have mentioned here, I am amazed at how many of them are not there already, it is a CRYING SHAME: |
Mark Speck (mark_speck) 4-Laureate Username: mark_speck
Post Number: 132 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 63.188.136.156
| Posted on Monday, August 16, 2004 - 12:11 am: �� | ��� |
Dusty is already in the HOF. Best, Mark |
Mark Speck (mark_speck) 4-Laureate Username: mark_speck
Post Number: 151 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 63.188.137.54
| Posted on Sunday, August 22, 2004 - 9:11 pm: �� | ��� |
Inspired by a post I made in another thread: The Neville Brothers Allen Toussaint (he might not make it necessarily as an artist, good as he is, but should be in there in the non-performing category for all he's done for the New Orleans sound). Best, Mark |
Milli Vanilli (millie)
3-Pundit Username: millie
Post Number: 48 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 68.62.7.219
| Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 10:26 am: �� | ��� |
TD, You have got to be kidding!!! Tommy James, as in Tommy James and the Shondells??? The Monkees too? Oy Vey. |
Mark Speck (mark_speck) 4-Laureate Username: mark_speck
Post Number: 164 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 63.188.113.80
| Posted on Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 11:37 pm: �� | ��� |
A couple of dynamic duos: Jan and Dean Gamble and Huff (in the non-performer category) Best, Mark |