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  Jimmy Mack (luke) 6-Zenith Username: luke Post Number: 481 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 205.188.116.139 |
Great performer,great soul--Natural Woman, Its Too Late, I Feel the Earth Move... I love her. I read that she was supposed to do more in Diva finale that Queen Aretha led and the Queen took over and Carole graciously stepped back. | ||
Manny (manny) 5-Doyen Username: manny Post Number: 309 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.124.52.187 |
Hi, Jimmy I likes more the "cover" of "It's Too Late" by Billy Paul. But, everytime I heard, specially, the spanish lyrics song "Yo te quiero, mi coraz�n", I have doubts: who deserves more the distinction as THE white soul diva, Laura Nyro or Carole King? Peace & Soul Food P.D.: have you heard the tribute to Carole and Carly Simon by Eumir Deodato, called "Carole & Carly"? | ||
Jimmy Mack (luke) 6-Zenith Username: luke Post Number: 483 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.198.48.201 |
Hey Manny--never heard Billy's version-would love too---loved Laura too--what about Dusty?I want to get her sould cd(I cant give back the Love, Needle in Haystack, I Just Dont Know What to Do, When the Lovelight, Crumbs Off the Table, Brand New Me...) | ||
Eli (phillysoulman) 6-Zenith Username: phillysoulman Post Number: 1056 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.162.123.143 |
What Dusty soul cd? | ||
Jimmy Mack (luke) 6-Zenith Username: luke Post Number: 487 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.198.48.201 |
Reviewed in new edition of Chatbusters--"Dusty Sings Classic Soul" catalogue #5449792-51:16--its listed with a few Motown cd releases in England(Jimmy Ruffin Ultimate Motown Collection 2cd, Barrett Strong the Collection, Mable John the Complete Collecton etc-not sure what label its on or if somehow leased to Motown Eng--will check more..also includes Can I get a Wtiness, Love wer, I Had a Talk With My Man Last Night, Breakfast in Bed, Feel For You, Girls It Aint Easy, Oh Not My Baby, Mr Dream Merchant, Dont Forget About Me, So Much Love, Magic Garden, Long After Tonight Is Over, Chained To A Memory--I gotta get this cd!! | ||
dvdmike (dvdmike) 5-Doyen Username: dvdmike Post Number: 234 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.208.234.61 |
Billy's version of "It's Too Late" was released on his "360 Degrees Of Billy Paul" LP in 1972, which also included a cover of Elton John's "Your Song". Elton himself said that his favorite cover of that song was the one by Billy. Nice Lenny Pakula arrangement. Lenny must have also listened to Three Dog Night's version as well. Comparing Carole King to Laura Nyro is like comparing an apple to an orange. They were two different types of songwriters. Both excellent, but different. | ||
Eli (phillysoulman) 6-Zenith Username: phillysoulman Post Number: 1065 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 70.16.137.151 |
Jimmy, what label is the Dusty cd on? | ||
Tony Russi (tony_russi) 5-Doyen Username: tony_russi Post Number: 197 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.210.48.134 |
Does anyone remember Carol Kings 2nd Dimension 45 "School Bells Are Ringing"....I mean she was trying to sing just like Little Eva. | ||
Davie Gordon (davie_gordon) 4-Laureate Username: davie_gordon Post Number: 117 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 195.93.33.10 |
It's always puzzled me that are so relatively few soul versions of Carole's songs - she's written some absolute killers. Walter Jackson's "No Easy Way Down" is one of top wants-list priorities, I can only imagine how well Walter would have handled that. Believe it or not the American Breed - yes the "Bend Me, Shape Me" bunch - do an excellent version of it which was shamefully missed off their retrospective CD. | ||
Destruction (destruction) 5-Doyen Username: destruction Post Number: 240 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 199.173.225.22 |
I heard my Grandmother and Aunt play Tapestry so many times between Nancy Wilson and Roberta Flack that I can sing the whole damn thing backwards. I'm glad they did. | ||
Chi Drummer (chidrummer) 3-Pundit Username: chidrummer Post Number: 59 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 24.14.41.10 |
I believe you Mr. Gordon. The other amazing thing about the American Breed is their transformation into Rufus with Chaka Khan. But, that's another story... | ||
Davie Gordon (davie_gordon) 4-Laureate Username: davie_gordon Post Number: 119 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 195.93.33.10 |
Hi ChiDrummer, I'm sure as a Chicagoan I don't have to tell you this but maybe some folks don't know that Hawk Wolinski, the keyboard player for Rufus, who also wrote "The Medicine Song" for Stephanie Mills, was a member of the Shadows of Knight of "Gloria" fame. There's quite a few members of Chicago garage bands with links to soul. As for the American Breed their second album is one of my favourite cheapo bin finds - cost me all of fifty cents (well 25p if I have to be accurate) Davie | ||
Jimmy Mack (luke) 6-Zenith Username: luke Post Number: 489 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.198.48.201 |
Eli--reread my last prevoius post--not sure of label tho could b leased to Motown Eng--will try to get more info--I did list catalogue # | ||
Davie Gordon (davie_gordon) 4-Laureate Username: davie_gordon Post Number: 120 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 195.93.33.10 |
Bobby, it's issued by the UK arm of Mercury. Davie | ||
Robb_K (robb_k) 6-Zenith Username: robb_k Post Number: 419 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.232.132.79 |
Yeah Tony, - "School Bells Are Ringing" was supposed to sound like Little Eva, but Carol sang it with a "Calypso (Jamaican)accent". | ||
Steve (steve_litos) 3-Pundit Username: steve_litos Post Number: 34 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 209.100.86.4 |
Hey Davie, I'll have to ask Lee Graziano (American Breed drummer) about "No Easy Way Down". Maybe he'll remember that one. We work together on occasion. From Lee's own statements...he thought that early Rufus (or Ask Rufus at the time) was a much better band than the American Breed. He left Rufus shortly before the first album was recorded though. | ||
Jimmy Mack (luke) 6-Zenith Username: luke Post Number: 496 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 64.12.116.138 |
Carole is also an incredibly charismatic performer live--dont know why she does so few concerts. Wouldnt it be great if she did a tour with people who have recorded her songs--Shirley Alston, Maxine Brown(Oh NO NOt MY BAby), Aretha(well maybe in the next life), Chiffons, etc etc etc | ||
Kevin Goins - KevGo (kevgo) 4-Laureate Username: kevgo Post Number: 149 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 64.33.204.240 |
Steve & Davie: Chuck Colbert Jr (of the American Breed & Rufus) did tell me before I left NYC that there are some unreleased American Breed masters. Sundazed Records released a couple of these tunes on their Dunwich Productions compilations. As for the Breed's transformation into Rufus, many bands from the Windy City straddled the fence between Pop/Rock and R&B. For example, Walter Paradizer of the group Chicago admitted that when the band started out (as the Big Thing), they had to play R&B tunes just to get decent gigs in the city. Kevin Goins - KevGo |
