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Brian T. (mrclemma) 3-Pundit Username: mrclemma
Post Number: 54 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 63.164.145.198
| Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 2:03 am: �� | ��� |
I picked up a couple of Calvin Williams singles recently. What can the SD faithful tell me about him? |
Mark Speck (mark_speck) 4-Laureate Username: mark_speck
Post Number: 88 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 63.188.113.72
| Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 9:37 pm: �� | ��� |
He's probably best-known to the Northern soul crowd for his tune, "Lonely You'll Be", originally issued on Northern Del-La out of Detroit and picked up by Atco. The song was also recorded by its producer, Johnnie Mae Matthews. I think Calvin had another tune entitled "Let's Dance", think the label was Target. Never heard this one, not too big on the other (had an Atco WLP and traded it off). Best, Mark |
Brian T. (mrclemma) 3-Pundit Username: mrclemma
Post Number: 55 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 63.164.145.198
| Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 1:14 am: �� | ��� |
Mark, Thanks. Those are the two I've got(on Northern Del-La and Target). Oddly enough, both those singles have the same catalog number, T-501. I really like both those songs but the flips leave me cold. I did a Google search and at one point the Target single went for $350(I think) on Ebay but I was unable to find any more information about the sale on Ebay proper. Anyone know anything else about this guy? |
Robb_K (robb_k) 5-Doyen Username: robb_k
Post Number: 410 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.232.152.125
| Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 3:06 am: �� | ��� |
Calvin Williams had several 45s out on Johnnie Mae Matthews' labels in the late '60s. I can't go look them up until November. I think he wrote some songs used in the Matthews stable. |
Graham Finch (acooolcat) 4-Laureate Username: acooolcat
Post Number: 154 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.200.105.229
| Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 5:51 am: �� | ��� |
Brian - I really like his Target 45, "Let's Dance." As well as the Northern Del La 45 he recorded as Lloyd Williams on the ART label - a song titled "Standing On The Sidelines." There's another Lloyd Wiliams' Detroit 45 on the Soul Beat label, titled "Be Mine Tonight." |
Davie Gordon (davie_gordon) 4-Laureate Username: davie_gordon
Post Number: 113 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 195.93.33.10
| Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 9:26 am: �� | ��� |
Graham, that Soul Beat single was issued nationally on ABC - produced, if I remember rightly, by ex-Sunliner Fred Saxon. Maybe Ralph could ask Fred about Calvin / Lloyd Williams. Brain , could you post the full credits for the Target single so we've all the info. in one place. Davie |
Brian T. (mrclemma) 3-Pundit Username: mrclemma
Post Number: 57 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 216.0.242.153
| Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 3:40 pm: �� | ��� |
I'll take care of that before work tomorrow. Time to head to the mines right now. Hey, are JuiceFree and I the only postal workers on this site or are there more? Stand up, disgruntled ones and be counted! |
Brian T. (mrclemma) 3-Pundit Username: mrclemma
Post Number: 59 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 63.164.145.198
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 1:28 am: �� | ��� |
Okay, here it is: "Let's Dance" (Target T-501) (Hammond-Wallace-Fowler) Produced by Marshall, Harvey "Lonely You'll Be" (Northern DEL-LA RECORDS T-501)(letters cased as they are on the label) (M. Davis) Produced by J. Hunter-Marshall-Matthews Note that the catalog numbers are the same on both records. Davie, is that the info you needed? If you like, I can try to scan them at the library this week. |
Graham Finch (acooolcat) 4-Laureate Username: acooolcat
Post Number: 158 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.200.105.225
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 2:24 am: �� | ��� |
Brian T I'd love to see a scan, and have the details of the flip side of the Target 45. |
Brian T. (mrclemma) 3-Pundit Username: mrclemma
Post Number: 61 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 63.164.145.198
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 2:34 am: �� | ��� |
"It Don't Mean A Thing" (Target T-501-B) (Hammond-Wallace-Fowler) Produced by Marshall, Harvey |
Davie Gordon (davie_gordon) 4-Laureate Username: davie_gordon
Post Number: 141 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 195.93.33.10
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 9:15 am: �� | ��� |
Thanks for the info., Brian. That Target single's eluded my dragnet until now :-) Yes, scans would be great if it's not too much hassle. I'll compile what info. I have on Calvin / Lloyd's records and post a discography in a day or so. As a general request to all forum members if you have an obscure record you'd like to know more about try to give as much info. as possible - label scans are the simplest. We can't guarantee to come up with the info. but seeing the labels more often than not helps the old memory make the connections. Davie |
Graham Finch (acooolcat) 4-Laureate Username: acooolcat
Post Number: 159 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.200.105.226
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 9:30 am: �� | ��� |
I think the Target label might have been a joint effort between Johnnie Mae Matthews and Sonny Marshall, as was the Northern De La label. I'd like to see a label scan as I also think the Target label uses more than one color, which was unusual for JMM. |
Ron Murphy (ron_murphy) 4-Laureate Username: ron_murphy
Post Number: 104 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.42.90.140
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 2:23 pm: �� | ��� |
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Graham Finch (acooolcat) 4-Laureate Username: acooolcat
Post Number: 160 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.200.105.226
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 8:41 pm: �� | ��� |
Thanks Ron I can't quite make out the the number on Grand River. |
Davie Gordon (davie_gordon) 4-Laureate Username: davie_gordon
Post Number: 155 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 195.93.33.10
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 9:31 pm: �� | ��� |
Don't cha just hate red labels with black print. davie |
Ron Murphy (ron_murphy) 4-Laureate Username: ron_murphy
Post Number: 108 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.42.90.140
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 10:14 pm: �� | ��� |
Graham: the half circle at the bottom of T-501 reads: "a product of Target Recording Co. 8791 Grand River - Detroit, Mich" |
Graham Finch (acooolcat) 4-Laureate Username: acooolcat
Post Number: 161 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 61.218.125.178
| Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 1:10 am: �� | ��� |
Thanks again Ron. |
sideburnslim (sideburnslim) 4-Laureate Username: sideburnslim
Post Number: 88 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.41.175.175
| Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 1:38 am: �� | ��� |
Calvin Williams appears on the Funk Funky Detroit comp released by Funky Delicacies earlier this year. The song "Going and Get It (Bring It To You) is a pretty decent funk soul number...but it dosent really sound like the guy who did "Lonely You'll Be." |
Brian T. (mrclemma) 3-Pundit Username: mrclemma
Post Number: 68 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 216.0.242.182
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 8:02 pm: �� | ��� |
Does anyone know the year of release for "Let's Dance" on Target and "Lonely You'll Be" on Northern Del-La? |
Graham Finch (acooolcat) 4-Laureate Username: acooolcat
Post Number: 169 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.200.105.225
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 8:53 pm: �� | ��� |
My guess is 1967. |
Brian T. (mrclemma) 3-Pundit Username: mrclemma
Post Number: 69 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 216.0.242.182
| Posted on Monday, August 23, 2004 - 7:07 pm: �� | ��� |
Thanks, Graham. |