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soulseeker (soulseeker) 1-Arriviste Username: soulseeker
Post Number: 3 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 24.53.234.220
| Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - 11:36 pm: �� | ��� |
Who were the female singers that sang background on Eddie Kendricks' records. They had some nice voices. I was wondering if they were from one of the many female groups signed to Motown at the time. The song I was thinking about in particular is Trust Your Heart. The background vocals really stand out on that song. |
soulseeker (soulseeker) 1-Arriviste Username: soulseeker
Post Number: 4 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 24.53.234.220
| Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 12:48 am: �� | ��� |
I don't want this thread to get lost before I can get an answer. thanks. |
mike s (mike_s) 4-Laureate Username: mike_s
Post Number: 108 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 195.93.33.10
| Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 5:41 am: �� | ��� |
Difficult one! Every album I have of Eddie has credits for everyone bar the studio cleaner and--- backup vocals..... |
Manny (manny) 5-Doyen Username: manny
Post Number: 302 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.124.52.237
| Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 9:55 am: �� | ��� |
Hi, Soulsseker! The only album I got by Eddie K.(the rest it's all singles, without credits info) is "Going Up In Smoke", where the female chorus are the Sweethearts of Sigma and some male vocals by, among others, Ron Tyson. Peace! |
soulseeker (soulseeker) 1-Arriviste Username: soulseeker
Post Number: 5 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 24.53.234.220
| Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 10:13 am: �� | ��� |
What? No credit info on the albums? Is that odd? Wow. Thanks for the replies. I hope someone can find out. |
SDF (handsome) 5-Doyen Username: handsome
Post Number: 324 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 170.118.158.14
| Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 12:04 pm: �� | ��� |
I know Frank Wilson was responsible for the backgrounds, as he probably provided some himself. I have the Hit Man & Slick lps & , and some of the singers are listed. One that comes to mind is Carolyn Majors-Caston (married to Leonard Caston, I believe). I'll look and let you know, soulseeker. Handsome |
zebop (zebop) 4-Laureate Username: zebop
Post Number: 90 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 149.174.164.84
| Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 12:57 pm: �� | ��� |
No backup singers are listed for "Boogie Down", Here's the lineup for 1974's "For You"" Carolyn Majors-Caston, Carolyn Hurley, Carolyn Wills, Mara Baygulow, Karin Patterson, Myrna Matthews, Wayne Cooper, Harry Booker, Leonard Caston, Frank Wilson. (Message edited by zebop on August 04, 2004) (Message edited by zebop on August 04, 2004) |
soulseeker (soulseeker) 1-Arriviste Username: soulseeker
Post Number: 6 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 192.94.3.10
| Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 1:02 pm: �� | ��� |
Thanks to all for looking that up for me. They used a lot of Carolyns lol. None of those names sound familiar except for Frank and Leonard. |
SDF (handsome) 5-Doyen Username: handsome
Post Number: 327 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 170.118.158.14
| Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 1:38 pm: �� | ��� |
Zebop, that's sounds about right! I remember those names now, thanks to you! Handsome |
soulseeker (soulseeker) 1-Arriviste Username: soulseeker
Post Number: 7 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 192.94.3.10
| Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 2:13 pm: �� | ��� |
Thanks Zebop. Ironically, Boogie Down is the LP that has the particular song I'm curious about. |
Arcadia (arcadia) 4-Laureate Username: arcadia
Post Number: 73 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 4.237.47.106
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 11:33 am: �� | ��� |
On the Eddie Kendrick's DVD "Dancin' In The Streets", recorded live at the LA Forum, the background singers were 5 males called "Spin-off" (not sure about the spelling). They provided background vocals and some jamming (and sexy) choreography! A- |
Davie Gordon (davie_gordon) 4-Laureate Username: davie_gordon
Post Number: 145 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 195.93.33.10
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 1:54 pm: �� | ��� |
Carolyn Willis was a member of the HoneyCone Karin Patterson was in the Devastating Affair (on Mowest) Carolyn Majors recored as a duo "Caston & Majors" with Leonard Caston - one album "Caston & Majors" (Motown 814, Nov 1974) |
SDF (handsome) 5-Doyen Username: handsome
Post Number: 362 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 170.118.158.14
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 2:04 pm: �� | ��� |
Davie, Zebop said Carolyn Wills, not Carolyn Willis. Is this one & the same from HoneyCone? Ze, was this a typo? Handsome |
soulseeker (soulseeker) 2-Debutant Username: soulseeker
Post Number: 19 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 24.53.234.220
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 4:13 pm: �� | ��� |
"On the Eddie Kendrick's DVD "Dancin' In The Streets", recorded live at the LA Forum, the background singers were 5 males called "Spin-off" (not sure about the spelling). They provided background vocals and some jamming (and sexy) choreography!" Thanks but I was inquiring about the studio singers. But now you got my curiousity peaked, I'll have to check out that DVD. |
soulseeker (soulseeker) 2-Debutant Username: soulseeker
Post Number: 20 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 24.53.234.220
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 4:16 pm: �� | ��� |
Carolyn Willis was a member of the HoneyCone Karin Patterson was in the Devastating Affair (on Mowest) Carolyn Majors recored as a duo "Caston & Majors" with Leonard Caston - one album "Caston & Majors" (Motown 814, Nov 1974) Thanks. If these were the ladies used they sure have some beautiful voices. I will have to check out their other work. |
Davie Gordon (davie_gordon) 4-Laureate Username: davie_gordon
Post Number: 146 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 195.93.33.10
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 5:17 pm: �� | ��� |
If you haven't heard the HoneyCone yet you're in for a real treat - one of the greatest girl groups ever. They'd some huge hits between 69 - 71 including the million seller "Want Ads" which actually topped the US pop charts in summer '71. There's a 2-cd set which contains, I think, everything they recorded for Holland-Dozier-Holland's HotWax label - that's four albums and various single-only tracks. Excellent group. |
SDF (handsome) 5-Doyen Username: handsome
Post Number: 367 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 170.118.158.14
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 5:20 pm: �� | ��� |
Davie is so right! I have the Hot Wax sessions 2 cds...those girls could sing and have great harmonies! |
soulseeker (soulseeker) 2-Debutant Username: soulseeker
Post Number: 22 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 24.53.234.220
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 5:34 pm: �� | ��� |
Oh yeah I remember the Honeycone's Want Ads. Extra Extra Read All About It Wanted Young Man Single and Free. Thats one line a song that I never forgot for some reason. Didn't they have another hit though. Not as big as Want Ads but I kind of remember another song by them. Okay now I remember. It was Stickup Highway Robbery. I will check out their other work as you guys suggest and a little research on the group. (Message edited by Soulseeker on August 09, 2004) |
SDF (handsome) 5-Doyen Username: handsome
Post Number: 369 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 170.118.158.14
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 5:37 pm: �� | ��� |
soulseeker, how about these songs: Stick -Up, One Monkey Don't Stop No Show, The Day I Found Myself, Innocent Until Proven Guilty... Do those ring a bell? Handsome |
soulseeker (soulseeker) 2-Debutant Username: soulseeker
Post Number: 24 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 24.53.234.220
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 5:47 pm: �� | ��� |
Thanks SDF I remembered Stick up after I posted. But yes! I remember one monkey too! Such great singers. I don't recall any ballads though. I really need to check them out. They had great voices. I'm hearing these songs in my head as I'm typing. I'll have to see if they sound similar to the ones singing on the Kendrick tracks. |
SDF (handsome) 5-Doyen Username: handsome
Post Number: 370 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 170.118.158.14
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 5:53 pm: �� | ��� |
The Day I Found Myself is ballad-like. Also check them out on Ooh Baby Baby & Stay In My Corner! Handsome |
soulseeker (soulseeker) 2-Debutant Username: soulseeker
Post Number: 25 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 24.53.234.220
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 6:06 pm: �� | ��� |
Will Do. The Hot Wax Sessions is it called? |
zebop (zebop) 4-Laureate Username: zebop
Post Number: 98 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 149.174.164.84
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 6:32 pm: �� | ��� |
Hey everyone, yep it's Carolyn Willis--sorry for the typo (Message edited by zebop on August 09, 2004) |
soulseeker (soulseeker) 2-Debutant Username: soulseeker
Post Number: 26 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 24.53.234.220
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 7:27 pm: �� | ��� |
Thanks Zebop |
Lady Mystique (ladymystique)
6-Zenith Username: ladymystique
Post Number: 485 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 199.224.120.244
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 7:30 pm: �� | ��� |
Didn't Barbara Ingram sing background for him? I could have sworn that I saw her name on the back of some of his albums. |
Davie Gordon (davie_gordon) 4-Laureate Username: davie_gordon
Post Number: 152 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 195.93.33.10
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 7:39 pm: �� | ��� |
The Honeycone cd I was talking about is "Soulful Sugar" (Sequel CMDDD340) - should be available through Amazon. Carolyn Willis did a lot of session work - she was featured on a Seals & Crofts hit in the mid-seventies which I've yet to hear - it's called "Get Closer" if I remember rightly. |
soulseeker (soulseeker) 2-Debutant Username: soulseeker
Post Number: 27 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 24.53.234.220
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 8:15 pm: �� | ��� |
Barbara Ingram? Did she sing on Trust Your Heart? Also, thanks for the Honeycone album info. |
Lady Mystique (ladymystique)
6-Zenith Username: ladymystique
Post Number: 488 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 199.224.120.244
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 8:39 pm: �� | ��� |
I don't know if she sang on TRUST YOUR HEART, that album doesn't list the singers, just the rhythm section, which included some of the Funk Brothers (Jack Ashford, James Jamerson). Here's some of the singers that I am able to list...I don't have all of his albums (working on it), but hope this helps: Background singers on HE�S A FRIEND album: Bruce Hawes Carl Helm Bruce Gray Allan Felder Darryl Grant Barbara Ingram Carla Benson Evette Benson Background singers on GOIN� UP IN SMOKE album: Barbara Ingram Carla Benson Evette Benson Allan Felder Carl Helm Ronald T. Presson Bruce Gray Philip Hurtt |
1wicked (1wicked)
5-Doyen Username: 1wicked
Post Number: 213 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.126.64.72
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 9:10 pm: �� | ��� |
Lady Mystique: The "He's A Friend" and "Goin' Up In Smoke" were straight up Philly productions with Norman "The Harris Machine" Harris at the helm. The personnel on these albums would be the MFSB along with the vocalists you listed...but would have NOTHING in common with the personnel from any other Kendricks project. |
Jimmy Mack (luke) 6-Zenith Username: luke
Post Number: 514 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 64.12.116.138
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 10:38 pm: �� | ��� |
I have a Honey Cone best of on an HDH label-The Day I found Myself is my fave of all of their recordings-god that harmony. Did Edna always sing lead?I love Carolyn on Get closer--unique and great voice. |
soulseeker (soulseeker) 2-Debutant Username: soulseeker
Post Number: 28 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 24.53.234.220
| Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 11:45 pm: �� | ��� |
Thanks Lady M. and 1 wicked for the Info. |
SDF (handsome) 5-Doyen Username: handsome
Post Number: 379 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 170.118.158.14
| Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 1:13 pm: �� | ��� |
soulseeker, I don't think Barbara Ingram sang on Trust Your Heart (flipside to Son of Saggitarius), I believe those were still some of the early singers. JimmyMack, on that 2 cd HoneyCone, one of them is co-leading on "Stay In My Corner", I forgot which one. All of them have great voices. Thanks Zebop. Handsome |
Davie Gordon (davie_gordon) 4-Laureate Username: davie_gordon
Post Number: 165 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 195.93.33.10
| Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 2:25 pm: �� | ��� |
That's Shelley Clark doing the co-lead on "Stay .." - it's hard to say who's on the final album - although all three are on the cover Carolyn left after the third album so it might just be Edna and Shelley helped out my session singers. Carolun and Shelley were interviewed for the notes for the "Soulful Sugar" CD and it looks as if Carolyn left around late '71 after "One Monkey". That would explain why the follow up paired two older songs "The Day I Found Myself"/"When Will It End" - probably a stop gap measure while Edna and Shelley tried to find a replacement for Carolyn - something that never happened. But - how does that explain the picture sleeve for the 1973 "If I Can't Fly" single which clearly shows the three of them - maybe Carolyn came back for photo sessions to give the impression the group still existed. It's a shame there's been so little written about the Honey Cone - there are so many unanswered questions. Carolyn Hurley who's one of the background singers on the "For You" album is probbaly the same person who had a 1974 single on Stax. The girls reformed for short time around 1995 for a few concerts - they looked even better than ever. |
Davie Gordon (davie_gordon) 4-Laureate Username: davie_gordon
Post Number: 166 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 195.93.33.10
| Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 2:26 pm: �� | ��� |
That's Shelley Clark doing the co-lead on "Stay .." - it's hard to say who's on the final album - although all three are on the cover Carolyn left after the third album so it might just be Edna and Shelley helped out my session singers. Carolyn and Shelley were interviewed for the notes for the "Soulful Sugar" CD and it looks as if Carolyn left around late '71 after "One Monkey". That would explain why the follow up paired two older songs "The Day I Found Myself"/"When Will It End" - probably a stop gap measure while Edna and Shelley tried to find a replacement for Carolyn - something that never happened. But - how does that explain the picture sleeve for the 1973 "If I Can't Fly" single which clearly shows the three of them - maybe Carolyn came back for photo sessions to give the impression the group still existed. It's a shame there's been so little written about the Honey Cone - there are so many unanswered questions. Carolyn Hurley who's one of the background singers on the "For You" album is probbaly the same person who had a 1974 single on Stax. The girls reformed for short time around 1995 for a few concerts - they looked even better than ever. |
SDF (handsome) 5-Doyen Username: handsome
Post Number: 389 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 170.118.158.14
| Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 2:34 pm: �� | ��� |
Thanks Davie! Good Information! I didn't care for Sharon Cash (I think that's her name that took Enda's place). Handsome |
soulseeker (soulseeker) 2-Debutant Username: soulseeker
Post Number: 29 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 192.94.3.10
| Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 5:14 pm: �� | ��� |
You guys are providing a lot of helpful info. Thanks a lot. |
Lady Mystique (ladymystique)
6-Zenith Username: ladymystique
Post Number: 495 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 199.224.120.244
| Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 5:20 pm: �� | ��� |
1wicked...I know that they have nothing in common...just listing the singers! |
soulseeker (soulseeker) 2-Debutant Username: soulseeker
Post Number: 30 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 192.94.3.10
| Posted on Tuesday, August 10, 2004 - 5:29 pm: �� | ��� |
http://www.soul-patrol.com/sou l/honeycone.htm So far this is all I could find on the Honeycone. It does say that they continued their background work in L.A. commuting between there and Detroit. I even see Frank Wilson's name mentioned (Kendricks' producer) though I'm not too clear on the time frame. So its possible that it is Carolyn Willis' voice on the song. Well at least I'm getting closer to the answer. |
Davie Gordon (davie_gordon) 5-Doyen Username: davie_gordon
Post Number: 171 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 195.92.194.13
| Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 5:53 pm: �� | ��� |
Handsome,Yes, it was Sharon Cash that "replaced " Edna - as if anybody could. Actually I suspect that the Sharon Cash - led Honeycone didn't exist and that it was a just a marketing ploy to use a trusted "brand name". I didn't get to hear the Sharon -led single until it was included on "Soulful Sugar" - I don't really care for "The Truth Will Come Out" but I LOVE "Somebody's Always Messing Up A Good Thing" - it's not the Honeycone but it is a good disco track - like a tougher Gloria Gaynor. Will have to play it again - the Honeycone CD's never far from my CD player. Davie |
soulseeker (soulseeker) 3-Pundit Username: soulseeker
Post Number: 36 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 192.94.3.10
| Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2004 - 6:28 pm: �� | ��� |
http://www.ednawright-honeycon e.com/ Edna Wright info. I didn't know they sang it aint easy. (Message edited by soulseeker on August 11, 2004) |
Destruction (destruction)
5-Doyen Username: destruction
Post Number: 297 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 199.173.224.20
| Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 6:39 pm: �� | ��� |
Did D.C.'s Young Senators back up Eddie live at one time? |
soulseeker (soulseeker) 3-Pundit Username: soulseeker
Post Number: 64 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 192.94.3.10
| Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 7:33 pm: �� | ��� |
Yes they did. For a long time. |
MoMotown (momotown) 3-Pundit Username: momotown
Post Number: 45 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 216.249.83.139
| Posted on Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 9:26 pm: �� | ��� |
I remember Eddie's days with the Young Senators. Whatever happened to those guys anyway? |
soulseeker (soulseeker) 3-Pundit Username: soulseeker
Post Number: 65 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 24.53.234.220
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 12:25 am: �� | ��� |
I think a few of them still play together under a different name. They were really good. One of them has a website up. EJK Memorial Foundation (or something like that) dedicated to Kendricks. You can probably find out some info there. |
MoMotown (momotown) 3-Pundit Username: momotown
Post Number: 47 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 216.249.83.139
| Posted on Wednesday, August 18, 2004 - 4:02 pm: �� | ��� |
Thanks Soulseeker -- I'll check it out. |