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soulseeker (soulseeker)
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Who were the female singers that sang background on Eddie Kendricks' records. They had some nice voices. I was wondering if they were from one of the many female groups signed to Motown at the time. The song I was thinking about in particular is Trust Your Heart. The background vocals really stand out on that song.
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soulseeker (soulseeker)
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I don't want this thread to get lost before I can get an answer. thanks.
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mike s (mike_s)
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Difficult one!
Every album I have of Eddie has credits for everyone bar the studio cleaner and--- backup vocals.....
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Manny (manny)
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Hi, Soulsseker!

The only album I got by Eddie K.(the rest it's all singles, without credits info) is "Going Up In Smoke", where the female chorus are the Sweethearts of Sigma and some male vocals by, among others, Ron Tyson.

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soulseeker (soulseeker)
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What? No credit info on the albums? Is that odd? Wow. Thanks for the replies. I hope someone can find out.
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SDF (handsome)
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I know Frank Wilson was responsible for the backgrounds, as he probably provided some himself.

I have the Hit Man & Slick lps & , and some of the singers are listed. One that comes to mind is Carolyn Majors-Caston (married to Leonard Caston, I believe). I'll look and let you know, soulseeker.

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No backup singers are listed for "Boogie Down", Here's the lineup for 1974's "For You""

Carolyn Majors-Caston, Carolyn Hurley, Carolyn Wills, Mara Baygulow, Karin Patterson, Myrna Matthews, Wayne Cooper, Harry Booker, Leonard Caston, Frank Wilson.

(Message edited by zebop on August 04, 2004)

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soulseeker (soulseeker)
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Thanks to all for looking that up for me. They used a lot of Carolyns lol. None of those names sound familiar except for Frank and Leonard.
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SDF (handsome)
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Zebop, that's sounds about right! I remember those names now, thanks to you!

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soulseeker (soulseeker)
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Thanks Zebop. Ironically, Boogie Down is the LP that has the particular song I'm curious about.
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Arcadia (arcadia)
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On the Eddie Kendrick's DVD "Dancin' In The Streets", recorded live at the LA Forum, the background singers were 5 males called "Spin-off" (not sure about the spelling).

They provided background vocals and some jamming (and sexy) choreography!

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Davie Gordon (davie_gordon)
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Carolyn Willis was a member of the HoneyCone

Karin Patterson was in the Devastating Affair
(on Mowest)

Carolyn Majors recored as a duo "Caston & Majors"
with Leonard Caston - one album "Caston & Majors"
(Motown 814, Nov 1974)
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SDF (handsome)
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Davie, Zebop said Carolyn Wills, not Carolyn Willis. Is this one & the same from HoneyCone?

Ze, was this a typo?

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"On the Eddie Kendrick's DVD "Dancin' In The Streets", recorded live at the LA Forum, the background singers were 5 males called "Spin-off" (not sure about the spelling).

They provided background vocals and some jamming (and sexy) choreography!"

Thanks but I was inquiring about the studio singers. But now you got my curiousity peaked, I'll have to check out that DVD.
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soulseeker (soulseeker)
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Carolyn Willis was a member of the HoneyCone

Karin Patterson was in the Devastating Affair
(on Mowest)

Carolyn Majors recored as a duo "Caston & Majors"
with Leonard Caston - one album "Caston & Majors"
(Motown 814, Nov 1974)

Thanks. If these were the ladies used they sure have some beautiful voices. I will have to check out their other work.
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Davie Gordon (davie_gordon)
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If you haven't heard the HoneyCone yet you're in for a real treat - one of the greatest girl groups ever. They'd some huge hits between 69 - 71
including the million seller "Want Ads" which
actually topped the US pop charts in summer '71.
There's a 2-cd set which contains, I think, everything they recorded for Holland-Dozier-Holland's HotWax label - that's four albums and various single-only tracks. Excellent group.
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SDF (handsome)
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Davie is so right!

I have the Hot Wax sessions 2 cds...those girls could sing and have great harmonies!
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soulseeker (soulseeker)
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Oh yeah I remember the Honeycone's Want Ads.
Extra Extra Read All About It
Wanted Young Man Single and Free.

Thats one line a song that I never forgot for some reason.

Didn't they have another hit though. Not as big as Want Ads but I kind of remember another song by them. Okay now I remember. It was Stickup Highway Robbery. I will check out their other work as you guys suggest and a little research on the group.

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SDF (handsome)
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soulseeker, how about these songs: Stick -Up, One Monkey Don't Stop No Show, The Day I Found Myself, Innocent Until Proven Guilty...

Do those ring a bell?

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soulseeker (soulseeker)
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Thanks SDF I remembered Stick up after I posted. But yes! I remember one monkey too! Such great singers. I don't recall any ballads though. I really need to check them out. They had great voices. I'm hearing these songs in my head as I'm typing. I'll have to see if they sound similar to the ones singing on the Kendrick tracks.
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The Day I Found Myself is ballad-like. Also check them out on Ooh Baby Baby & Stay In My Corner!

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soulseeker (soulseeker)
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Will Do. The Hot Wax Sessions is it called?
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zebop (zebop)
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Hey everyone, yep it's Carolyn Willis--sorry for the typo :-)

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soulseeker (soulseeker)
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Thanks Zebop
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Lady Mystique (ladymystique)
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Didn't Barbara Ingram sing background for him? I could have sworn that I saw her name on the back of some of his albums.
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Davie Gordon (davie_gordon)
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The Honeycone cd I was talking about is
"Soulful Sugar" (Sequel CMDDD340) - should be available through Amazon.

Carolyn Willis did a lot of session work - she
was featured on a Seals & Crofts hit in the
mid-seventies which I've yet to hear - it's
called "Get Closer" if I remember rightly.
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soulseeker (soulseeker)
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Barbara Ingram? Did she sing on Trust Your Heart?

Also, thanks for the Honeycone album info.
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Lady Mystique (ladymystique)
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I don't know if she sang on TRUST YOUR HEART, that album doesn't list the singers, just the rhythm section, which included some of the Funk Brothers (Jack Ashford, James Jamerson).

Here's some of the singers that I am able to list...I don't have all of his albums (working on it), but hope this helps:

Background singers on HE�S A FRIEND album:

Bruce Hawes
Carl Helm
Bruce Gray
Allan Felder
Darryl Grant
Barbara Ingram
Carla Benson
Evette Benson

Background singers on GOIN� UP IN SMOKE album:

Barbara Ingram
Carla Benson
Evette Benson
Allan Felder
Carl Helm
Ronald T. Presson
Bruce Gray
Philip Hurtt
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Lady Mystique: The "He's A Friend" and "Goin' Up In Smoke" were straight up Philly productions with Norman "The Harris Machine" Harris at the helm. The personnel on these albums would be the MFSB along with the vocalists you listed...but would have NOTHING in common with the personnel from any other Kendricks project.
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I have a Honey Cone best of on an HDH label-The Day I found Myself is my fave of all of their recordings-god that harmony. Did Edna always sing lead?I love Carolyn on Get closer--unique and great voice.
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soulseeker (soulseeker)
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Thanks Lady M. and 1 wicked for the Info.
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soulseeker, I don't think Barbara Ingram sang on Trust Your Heart (flipside to Son of Saggitarius), I believe those were still some of the early singers.

JimmyMack, on that 2 cd HoneyCone, one of them is co-leading on "Stay In My Corner", I forgot which one. All of them have great voices.

Thanks Zebop.

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Davie Gordon (davie_gordon)
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That's Shelley Clark doing the co-lead on
"Stay .." - it's hard to say who's on the final album - although all three are on the cover Carolyn left after the third album so it might just be Edna and Shelley helped out my session singers. Carolun and Shelley were interviewed for the notes for the "Soulful Sugar" CD and it looks as if Carolyn left around late '71 after "One Monkey". That would explain why the follow up paired two older songs "The Day I Found Myself"/"When Will It End" - probably a stop gap
measure while Edna and Shelley tried to find a replacement for Carolyn - something that never happened.

But - how does that explain the picture sleeve for
the 1973 "If I Can't Fly" single which clearly shows the three of them - maybe Carolyn came back for photo sessions to give the impression the group still existed. It's a shame there's been so little written about the Honey Cone - there are so many unanswered questions.

Carolyn Hurley who's one of the background singers on the "For You" album is probbaly the same person who had a 1974 single on Stax.

The girls reformed for short time around 1995
for a few concerts - they looked even better than ever.
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That's Shelley Clark doing the co-lead on
"Stay .." - it's hard to say who's on the final album - although all three are on the cover Carolyn left after the third album so it might just be Edna and Shelley helped out my session singers. Carolyn and Shelley were interviewed for the notes for the "Soulful Sugar" CD and it looks as if Carolyn left around late '71 after "One Monkey". That would explain why the follow up paired two older songs "The Day I Found Myself"/"When Will It End" - probably a stop gap
measure while Edna and Shelley tried to find a replacement for Carolyn - something that never happened.

But - how does that explain the picture sleeve for
the 1973 "If I Can't Fly" single which clearly shows the three of them - maybe Carolyn came back for photo sessions to give the impression the group still existed. It's a shame there's been so little written about the Honey Cone - there are so many unanswered questions.

Carolyn Hurley who's one of the background singers on the "For You" album is probbaly the same person who had a 1974 single on Stax.

The girls reformed for short time around 1995
for a few concerts - they looked even better than ever.
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Thanks Davie!

Good Information!

I didn't care for Sharon Cash (I think that's her name that took Enda's place).

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You guys are providing a lot of helpful info. Thanks a lot.
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Lady Mystique (ladymystique)
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1wicked...I know that they have nothing in common...just listing the singers! :-)
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http://www.soul-patrol.com/sou l/honeycone.htm

So far this is all I could find on the Honeycone.
It does say that they continued their background work in L.A. commuting between there and Detroit. I even see Frank Wilson's name mentioned (Kendricks' producer) though I'm not too clear on the time frame. So its possible that it is Carolyn Willis' voice on the song. Well at least I'm getting closer to the answer.
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Davie Gordon (davie_gordon)
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Handsome,Yes, it was Sharon Cash that "replaced " Edna - as if anybody could.

Actually I suspect that the Sharon Cash - led Honeycone didn't exist and that it was a just a
marketing ploy to use a trusted "brand name".

I didn't get to hear the Sharon -led single until it was included on "Soulful Sugar" - I don't really care for "The Truth Will Come Out" but
I LOVE "Somebody's Always Messing Up A Good Thing"
- it's not the Honeycone but it is a good disco
track - like a tougher Gloria Gaynor. Will have to play it again - the Honeycone CD's never far from my CD player.

Davie
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http://www.ednawright-honeycon e.com/

Edna Wright info. I didn't know they sang it aint easy.

(Message edited by soulseeker on August 11, 2004)
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Did D.C.'s Young Senators back up Eddie live at one time?
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Yes they did. For a long time.
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I remember Eddie's days with the Young Senators. Whatever happened to those guys anyway?
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I think a few of them still play together under a different name. They were really good. One of them has a website up. EJK Memorial Foundation (or something like that) dedicated to Kendricks. You can probably find out some info there.
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Thanks Soulseeker -- I'll check it out.

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