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Dinelle (dinelle_watson)
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Post Number: 159
Registered: 3-2004
Posted From: 68.222.32.90
Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 11:56 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's been 12 years today exactly since the world lost one of Motown's very first stars to a two-year battle with larnyx cancer (throat cancer). I miss her. She was kind of cute.
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Tony Russi (tony_russi)
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Post Number: 184
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.210.0.107
Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 12:47 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can't beleive its been 12 years. I had a hard time sleeping last night, tossed & turned and thought about Sugar Wells Womack, Marys youngest who must be 19 now.
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Dinelle (dinelle_watson)
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Post Number: 160
Registered: 3-2004
Posted From: 65.6.76.173
Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 1:54 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My brother's 19 going on 20 in October. He's serving Iraq now. He should be home by his birthday.

I forgot. Who was Sugar Well Womack? I heard of that name before, but I forgot where.
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Charise (mistrivia1)
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Post Number: 235
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 198.81.26.46
Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 2:35 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That is Mary and Curtis Womack's daughter, Dinelle.
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Charise (mistrivia1)
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Post Number: 236
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Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 3:42 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Curtis Womack and brothers Friendly,Bobby,Harry & Cecil were as I know you remember now:-):-) The Valentinos, also worked with Sam Cooke. Cecil was also married to Mary in the mid-60's. He is now married to Linda Cooke Womack, singer/songwriter in her own right and daughter of Sam Cooke. They had a couple of albums in the '80s billed as Womack & Womack. They have a bunch of kids, well most of them should be adults or entering adulthood. Sam's got a bunch of grandchildren:-):-):-). They wrote "Love TKO"& "Baby I'm Scared Of You", both from the debut album Love Wars, as well as other songs. I believe Mary has children with Cecil as well, I could be wrong. Bobby was once married to Sam's widow,Barbara. WOW, now that's a lot of music history, did you get it all?:-):-):-):-):-)
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Kdubya (paladin)
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Post Number: 138
Registered: 5-2004
Posted From: 206.185.64.23
Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 3:48 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great family, love the Womacks.......think theirs a new one with a record out too.........
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Jimmy Mack (luke)
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Post Number: 437
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.198.48.201
Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 5:08 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mary-miss her. I sent her a card when she was in the hospital-wow 12 years. Does anyone know who Sugar lived with after Mary's death? I wish the autobiography she was working on before her death got finished or someone(Sam Moore's wife maybe who helped Mary a lot)would finish it. I wonder if Mary had some money coming in that went to Sugar for her songwriting(Bye Bye BAby etc)
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mike s (mike_s)
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Post Number: 87
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 195.93.33.10
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 - 6:20 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mary's got a track on a new cd issued by Warner over here in the UK- produced by Cecil Womack. It's "If You Can't Give Her Love"...came out on Reprise in the mid70s, not a great song but the vocal on it is just amazing and pinpoints what great talent this lady had. She really makes the absolute most of it but in a subtle way.
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Linda Di. (linda_di_fsg)
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Post Number: 114
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 66.67.194.76
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 - 7:09 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sugar lived with her older siblings after Mary died. So they would be cousins on their dads' side and siblings on their mom's side. Lotsa talent there for sure.
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Tony Russi (tony_russi)
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Post Number: 188
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.210.24.109
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 - 10:30 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cecil & Mary had 3 children, Meech(Cecil,II),Stacy(who raised Sugar from'92)& Shorty(Harry James George) Cecil & Mary divorced in '77, she became involved with Curtis in '79 and had Sugar in about '85 or '86.Cecil & Linda live in England or maybe France..their records sold well in Europe.They are all wonderful & talented people. "If You Can't Give Her Love(Give Her Up) was written & Produced by Bobby Womack released on Reprise Records 1974.
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Dinelle (dinelle_watson)
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Post Number: 162
Registered: 3-2004
Posted From: 65.6.70.28
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 - 10:59 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sugar must be 18 or 19 years old now, right?
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Randy Russi (randy_russi)
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Post Number: 118
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 169.139.180.100
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 - 11:58 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, Sugar Wells Womack is about 18 or 19! She
lived with Mary's daughter Stacy Noel Womack
after her mother became too ill to care for her.
Stacy now lives in Las Vegas and Sugar is still
with her. I still speak with Curtis & Friendly
Womack. Haven't spoken with Stacy in awhile or
Cecil & Linda either.
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mike s (mike_s)
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Post Number: 93
Registered: 4-2004
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Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2004 - 10:03 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Tony. Presume that is Bobby on there as well. He certainly got a great performance out of her.
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Randy Russi (randy_russi)
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Post Number: 123
Registered: 4-2004
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Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2004 - 12:59 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There are several other recordings made from that
period that Bobby Womack produced on Mary, includ-
ing a version of "Bye Bye Baby". At one time
Curtis told me Bobby had the masters to all the
tracks he produced on Mary and was making a deal
for them with a label in England. Haven't heard
anymore about that, but it's worth checking into.

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