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  Vonnie (vonnie) 5-Doyen Username: vonnie Post Number: 215 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 64.12.116.138 |
Okay all of you soulfuldetroit experts, I'm not familiar with these groups, please fill in the blanks for me. The Counts ~ I know their from Detroit and had a song titled "Why Not Start All Over Again". Was this their only song? The Ambers~ I only know they were a New Jersey group. What song or songs did they make? The Tempermentals ~ I know they were a group in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. What song or songs did they make? Maybe I haven't heard anything about them because their group name fit their personalities  . The Delroys ~ I know that Cliff Noble was a member of this group. They were a local Philly group. The Equations ~ I have no information about this group  . The Force MD's ~ I'm not sure, they may have been a group from Philly, and a friend of mine name Brian Evans may have sung with them. | ||
Don (don) 5-Doyen Username: don Post Number: 410 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.172.131 |
Hi Vonnie The Force MD's is a five man vocal group from NYC. Don | ||
Spyder Turner (spyder_turner) 3-Pundit Username: spyder_turner Post Number: 43 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 68.42.246.252 |
THE COUNTS ALSO HAD A RECORD CALLED "JAN JAN". THEY WERE MY BAND BACK IN THE SIXTIES, WE WERE CALLED "SPYDER TURNER AND THE FABULOUS COUNTS" WHEN I SIGNED WITH MGM RECORDS THEIR MAMAGER ADVISED THEM NOT TO SIGN AND I BECAME A SINGLE ARTIST. THEY ARE ALSO PLAYING ON MY HIT "STAND BY ME". THERE WILL BE MORE INFO ON THEM IN MY NEW BIO SOON TO BE ON MY WEBSITE. WWW.SPYDERTURNER.COM | ||
Vonnie (vonnie) 5-Doyen Username: vonnie Post Number: 216 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 152.163.252.200 |
Spyder, Thank you for the information! I knew that my soulfuldetroit buds would give me the 411 on my questions. Don, Thanks for the information on The Force MD's, you are correct they were a group from Staten Island, New York. I mixed them up with a group from Philly. I was thinking of the group called ~ The Soul DeValents also know as Force Of Nature, they were a Philly group. Soulfuldetroit is so educational. | ||
Gary (gary) 4-Laureate Username: gary Post Number: 97 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 172.137.13.245 |
Vonnie...I remember The Fabulous Counts from the early 70s in and around Detroit. They were VERY popular locally around that time. They had several other hits besides "Why Not Start All Over Again", which was a solid jam. The other cuts that I remember were "Show Me The Way" (that may or may not be the exact title) and "Rhythm Changes". If I'm not mistaken, they recorded on Westbound. | ||
Spyder Turner (spyder_turner) 3-Pundit Username: spyder_turner Post Number: 44 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 68.42.246.252 |
HEY GARY, YOU'RE RIGHT, I FORGOT THOSE OTHER SONGS. NOW YOU KNOW FOR SURE THAT I HAVE A BAD CASE OF C.R.S. SOMETIMES MY MEMORY HAS TO BE JOGGED, BUT THEY WERE A DYNOMITE GROUP. LEROY IS STILL PLAYING IN CANADA AND DEMO IS AN ACTOR AND LIVES IN MONTREAL. I SAW MOSE IN ATLANTA PLAYING IN A CLUB A FEW YEARS AGO AND I WENT TO A T.V. SHOW HE WAS TAPING. HIS BAND THEN WAS VERY GOOD. | ||
Don (don) 6-Zenith Username: don Post Number: 413 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.172.131 |
Thank You Vonnie I appreciate it. The Force MD's had their biggest hit with "Tender Love" written & produced by Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis formerly with Morris Day & The Time. "I Couldn't Care Less" written by Full Force, who scored hit after hit with Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam. Don | ||
Gary (gary) 4-Laureate Username: gary Post Number: 98 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 172.152.50.177 |
What's up Spyder! I never knew the Counts were your band back in the day. I guess it's true that we learn something new every day. You're right, those cats were dynamite, I'm glad to hear they are doing well these days. See you at the Dream Cruise. | ||
Don (don) 6-Zenith Username: don Post Number: 418 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.172.131 |
Also are these the same band of guys that appeared in Animal House or National Lampoon? Didn't George "Dr. Funkenstein" Clinton produced a LP/CD on The Counts? 'CUZ' | ||
mel(andthensome) (mel) 5-Doyen Username: mel Post Number: 358 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.153.212.70 |
Vonnie great groups you mention The Ambers were/are Robert Rhoney Robert Taylor Billy Chinn Ozzie Beck Jerry White they cut some great tracks and are well known on the uk scene. my faves by them are 'I Love you baby/now I'm in trouble' on Verve records no.10436 plus a brilliant 2 sider on Smash records no.2111 'potion of love/another love' they also recorded a 70's thing on the Jean label titled 'dont go/soul in room 401' plus on the New Art label a track titled 'bluebirds/baby I need you' oh and another on the Jean label titled 'never could you be my girl/dont go' regards mel-o-delphia | ||
mel(andthensome) (mel) 5-Doyen Username: mel Post Number: 359 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.153.212.70 |
The Counts on T.M. Records no.100 yes records no.103and 102 Shrine records no.117 there was another group called Thee Counts that recorded on Dynamo and Highland records and as far as I know not related unless Spyder or someone says different. can give you the titles Vonnie if the above info is correct. regards detroit-mel-o-delphia | ||
mel(andthensome) (mel) 5-Doyen Username: mel Post Number: 362 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.154.242.42 |
Vonnie just for the record The Counts 'whats it all about-motor city'-T.M.Records no.100 'stronger than ever-gospel truth'-Yes records no.102 'ask the lonely-if you dont love me'-Yes records no.103 'peaches baby-my only love'-Shrine records no.117 any more appreciated detroit-mel-o-delphia(or bust) | ||
Mark Speck (mark_speck) 3-Pundit Username: mark_speck Post Number: 67 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 63.188.49.192 |
I don't think the Yes and Shrine groups are related to the Detroit act (Fabulous Counts) that recorded for Moira, Westbound and GMC. UK Ace re-issued their Westbound LP, "It's What's Up Front That Counts", a while back. It should still be available on CD from them. Best, Mark | ||
mel(andthensome) (mel) 5-Doyen Username: mel Post Number: 367 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.154.240.114 |
Cheers Mark I thought as much but wasnt 100% certain mel | ||
Mark Speck (mark_speck) 3-Pundit Username: mark_speck Post Number: 68 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 63.188.49.192 |
No problem, Mel. Having not heard either of the rare Counts groups (Yes or Shrine--one of the few Shrines I've yet to hear), are these any good? Best, Mark | ||
mel(andthensome) (mel) 5-Doyen Username: mel Post Number: 368 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.154.240.114 |
Mark The Shrine 45 is okeh dont know the Yes Releases as I think they are 70's. mel | ||
mel(andthensome) (mel) 5-Doyen Username: mel Post Number: 369 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.154.240.114 |
Disregard that getting mixed up here the T.M release is the 70's release the others are okeh mel(phew) | ||
mel(andthensome) (mel) 5-Doyen Username: mel Post Number: 370 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.154.240.114 |
Well Vonnie 1 out of 4 counts records aint so bad....... how many groups were knownas THE COUNTS then? I have a full biography of the detroit counts but its buried somewhere. mel(counted out) | ||
Funkyone D.J. Dollar Bil (funkyone) 4-Laureate Username: funkyone Post Number: 76 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 216.221.81.99 |
Did someone say The(Fabulous)Counts?If I wasn't so tired I would ramble on for days. I get to work with Leroy Emmanuel at least once a week and keep tabs on the rest. If you want to hear some really solid true music www.lmtconnection.com is Leroy's current band. The new CD Universal Soul is a lesson that all classic artists should take.Just let the music happen without trying to re-create or update your sound. The Counts also recorded on Aware records and for today's trivia,guess what artist had his Funky start doing the cover art of The Counts- "Love Signs" on Aware? | ||
Wonder B (wonder_b) 6-Zenith Username: wonder_b Post Number: 602 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 193.253.221.32 |
$Bill glad to see you here. I finally found that pic of the Counts probably from their Jan Jan period or perhaps older than that... Wonder B If you mess with the 'fro, you gotta go! | ||
Vonnie (vonnie) 5-Doyen Username: vonnie Post Number: 221 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 205.188.116.139 |
Thanks $Bill, Wonder & Mel-o-delphia, I knew if I asked, I would get information. Do you have any information on the other groups posted? | ||
Walt B (walt_b) 2-Debutant Username: walt_b Post Number: 20 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 205.188.116.139 |
Some of the Counts eventually backed Bohannon on some of his latter material. |
