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GO_GET_GONE_GIRL (gogogirl)
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Post Number: 197
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Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2004 - 9:23 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey All,

Did/do you ever get groups mixed up. For instance and back in the day - did some groups sound so similar to you - that at times - you called out the wrong name in your mind - until the DJ on the radio - would mention the group's name? (Or in whatever situation you were in - when you thought you had the group right) LOL!

Some of the ones I used to get mixed up - at times was:

Blue Magic
Stylistics
Chilites
Dramatics
Whispers
Manhattans
Intruders

Please don't take my question wrong - and I mean no disrespect to the above repective groups - because we all know that they have their own distictive sound. I was just a slowpoke at identifying them sometimes. LOL!

I would usually know when it was the "Ojays" "Spinners" "Isley Brothers" "Delfonics" and the like - right. But at times - I would hit and miss if I heard a new song by one of the above groups and back in the day - and/or years later, and after hearing an older tune - I would think to myself or comment out loud who I thought the group was? And sometimes - only to find out that I had it wrong. LOL!

How about the Doo-Wop groups? Were you all always able to identify a group and/or tell them apart when hearing this or that song?
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GO_GET_GONE_GIRL (gogogirl)
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Post Number: 198
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Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2004 - 9:24 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

All,

My bad - missed the "T" after "Though."
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Eli (phillysoulman)
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Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2004 - 9:47 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gogo girl,
Imo, all of the groups you mention are totally different from one another and each , imo have their own identity.

The only common thread is that they are all seventies acts.
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GO_GET_GONE_GIRL (gogogirl)
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Post Number: 199
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Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2004 - 9:55 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

All,

I hear 'ya Eli. I admitted that it just might be me. For instance - who made "When We Get Married?" I can't think of who made that song to save my life. LOL!

I suppose in certain instances - I just couldn't think of the group name. I might have called out one - and then said to myself - "that can't be right." LOL!

(Message edited by gogogirl on July 22, 2004)
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Gary (gary)
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Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2004 - 10:05 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

GoGo Girl...The Intruders sang "When We Get Married".
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Eli (phillysoulman)
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Posted on Thursday, July 22, 2004 - 11:17 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The original version of When we get married was recorded by the Dreamlovers in 1962.

The Intruders version was a remake as was Larry Graham.
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GO_GET_GONE_GIRL (gogogirl)
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Post Number: 202
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Posted on Friday, July 23, 2004 - 3:26 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey All,

Thanks Gary for reminding me that it was the Intruders that did WWGM. I remember that they also did "Cowboys To Girls." It was a smash hit in my hood.

Eli - thanks for reminding us who did that record first. I remember Larry Graham's version too now. I love Larry.

I heard "Tighten Up" this morning in the grocery store. LOL!
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Kdubya (paladin)
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Post Number: 132
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Posted on Friday, July 23, 2004 - 3:45 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good topic; I used to get Blue Magic & Stylistics
confused until I listened very carefully. Not on all songs just some of them.

Back in my younger days I thought the Chi-lites "I Like Your Lovin, Do You like mine" was the Tempts on first listen on a cheap transitor radio.....LOL

Oh yeah sometimes the groups themselves would trick you with those spoken bass intros...you know like Manhattans vs Dells......but as soon as Marvin Jr or Gerald would hit that note.....it was all over......they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and I hear where you coming from.......but I will say this I always knew the Isleys and Impressions just to name a couple.....

Kdubya
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Eli (phillysoulman)
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GoGo Girl..
FYI, the very FIRST recording session that I ever played on (as a kid) was the Dreamlovers version of When we get married.
It was produced by Jerry Ross at the Harold B. Robinson studio in Philly which was beneath an auto dealership and we had to go thru the dealership and walk around De Soto's and Plymouths and on to a mirrored door which led down the basement to the studio.
It was one of the only studios in town at the time that hd TWO tracks!!

We recorded the backing track first on two tracks and then they bounced it to one track on another two track machine and then they recorded the vocals on the other track, and that was that.
I was there for the whole experience.
It went on to be a top five pop record!BTW..Future arranger and producer extrordinaire, Bobby Martin played vibes on the record.

(Message edited by phillysoulman on July 23, 2004)

(Message edited by phillysoulman on July 23, 2004)
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GO_GET_GONE_GIRL (gogogirl)
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Post Number: 204
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Posted on Friday, July 23, 2004 - 4:11 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

All,

Eli - great story - and you go boy. Wonderful song it is/was. I suppose when they asked you - and to quote Larry - "Can You Handle It" - you said 'ell yeah - and stayed for the entire recording thing. LOL! Btw - CYHI was a great record too.

I'll holler back later. I have to go pick up my poodle. He had his teeth cleaned earlier today - and they just informed me that he had to have an extraction on a tooth too. Poor thing. They had to put him under. I'm glad he is fine now though. I will have to "Give Him Good Loving" the rest of the day. LOL!

I'll holler!
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Manny (manny)
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Good question, Gogogirl,

At the same time we can to think what makes a group unmistakably and what groups are more similars.
In fact, i think at this moments in some groups that, IMHO, sounds very similars (it's possibly that one is, deliberately, a "clon" or conciously imitator of the other, ??; i don't wanna unrespect or put in doubt the originality of anyone group)

- The Stylistics / The Philly Devotions
- Chi-Lites / Tomorrows Promise

These two are, IMHO and for my humble ears, the most evident similars. In some other case I find some passage in some determinate song that a group reminds me in another:
-When I heard Natural Four's "This Can be Real", I think in Walter Williams and the O'Jays.
-When I heard "Just As Long..?" by Love Committee I also thinks in The O'Jays.
-Some Dramatics songs where Ron Banks sang lead reminds me in Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes songs when Harold (RIP) sung lead.
-Some Futures songs as "Ain't no Time For nothing" reminds me in Four Tops.
-Some sixties O'Jays songs are very similar to the Drifetrs in the song structure and also the voices.

Peace & soul Food
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Kev-Lo (7273747576)
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Post Number: 155
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Posted on Friday, July 23, 2004 - 7:59 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi this is Kev-Lo I thought The Brighter Side Of Darkness,The Ponderosa Twins Plus One And The 21 Centry all sounded the same
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Charise (mistrivia1)
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Post Number: 196
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Posted on Friday, July 23, 2004 - 8:01 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kev-Lo, I thought that Brighter Side Of Darkness sounded like New Birth, ya' think???
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GO_GET_GONE_GIRL (gogogirl)
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Post Number: 206
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Posted on Friday, July 23, 2004 - 9:24 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Evening All,

Hey Manny. Thanks. I can dig your take on the question. You gave some wonderful examples. You knew who the groups were - you just noticed similarities. I flat out got them wrong sometimes - and especially if it was years later when I heard a particular song. I suppose part of it in my case is older age. LOL!

I usually got the Dells right too over the years. LOL!

"Hey You - Get Off My Mountain" for instance. Dramatics right? LOL!
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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
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Posted on Friday, July 23, 2004 - 9:43 pm: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I always thought that The Commodores mimicked The Ohio Players. After which, The Bar-Kays mimicked The Commodores. Those are the ones that really stand out in my mind at present.
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Gary (gary)
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The 60s "Girl Groups"...The Ronettes, The Crystals, The Shang-Gri-Las, and the Shirelles have always sounded very similar to me. It doesnt' matter, though because I love all of them.

Ditto for The Emotions and The Three Degrees.
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Charise (mistrivia1)
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Okay, didn't Wild Cherry sound like the Commodores, when they came out with Play That Funky Music & I Feel Sanctified(Commodores song)?
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Kev-Lo (7273747576)
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Hi this is Kev-Lo hi Charise You really thought The brighter Side Of Darkness sounded like new Birth.Wow you got me on that one,but never the less they both were great 70's groups
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Charise (mistrivia1)
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HI Kev!! I don't remember the lead singer for BSOD, but his voice, speaking voice, reminded me of Leslie's voice and then the harmonies were similar. Yes they were great groups, they don't make 'em like that anymore!
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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
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Hey Re Re,

Wild Cherry tried hard but upon a close listen, you could hear the lack of authenticity. I sound more like Bing Crosby than they did The Commodores :-)

Buh buh buh, scooby dooby doo & all that kinda jive.
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Don (don)
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GO-GO GIRL
I use to get 21st Century, The Choice Four and The Indepenence mixed-up long ago, like The Stylistics and Blue Magic. Now going into The New Jack Swing era onward into Hip-Hop/R&B or vicsa versa, I can't make tell who is who? And that's not to put them down.

I thought fellas like: Donell Jones, Avant, Joe, Shaheim, Case and Tank or an R. Kelly are standouts and original in they're distintive sound
voicing. Though GO-GO, I'm not about to jump on board on the Hip-Hop bandwagan.
Don
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Eli (phillysoulman)
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The Vibrations, the Marathons, and the Jayhawks...why? because they WERE the same group.
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Charise (mistrivia1)
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Eli, You got jokes, huh? LOL, but you also give good history lessons as well as others here.:-) I would have never imagined talking to you via internet or otherwise. I think about that now and smile when I look at the back of my father's albums, as I used to do, reading credits. That was how I learned about who played what and who sang what and what you looked like!
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Eli (phillysoulman)
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Just as long as your dad doesnt have any albums by Enrico caruso, as they would give away my age!!
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Charise (mistrivia1)
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LOL!!!!! I know about how old you are and that's not old!!!!!!
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Charise (mistrivia1)
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Although you did have more hair, back then:-):-)
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Eli (phillysoulman)
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Wow Charise,you sure do know a lot about me.
Do you work for the CIA?
Or even the credit bureau??
Or even the Mafia, capice???

or..or...or....
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Charise (mistrivia1)
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Eli, you are close, it is the government, though!!
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steveat21 (steveat21)
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Chairmen Of the Board and the Four Tops-
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Manny (manny)
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Hi again, soulful brothers & sisters

Here's two more

Younghearts - Chi-Lites
The To-Kays - The 60's O'Jays

And, also

Soulful Detroit Sisters - Soulful Detroit Brothers
two groups who sounds to me similars in sympathy!
(this is a not joke!)

Peace & Soul Food
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NY-DELL (dell)
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The Moments & The Whatnauts, Very Similar

The Osmonds - "One bad apple" could have sworn it was the Jackson 5 when I first heard it
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Soul Sister (soul_sister)
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NY-Dell;
I agree with the Moments & Whatnauts, they may sound similar because George Kerrr produced them both. I still prefer the Moments songs & sound bettter.

Blue Magic & Stylistics, especially Stylistics & the song done by Bloodstone (?), "Natural High" sounded to me like the Stylistics.

Juice;
I'm confused by your statement(?)?....... Reason is...because the Bar-Kays were around way before the Commadores, when they backed Otis and others on the Stax-Volt Revues doing the Chitlin' Theater Circut, as well as doing their own thing.

To me Eddie Holland sounded close to Jackie Wilson (just not as strong) on his record "Jamie".

Just my H.O.:-)
S.S.
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Chancellor of Soul (harlem_144)
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I remember back in the summer of 1973, I heard
on my Panasonic Crazy Radio which was a bright
yellow......played Misdemeanor on WABC AM (pop
station) here in NY. When I first heard it, I
swore it was Michael Jackson. Michael had just
released the Music And Me LP, so I'm thinking
he has another new song already ??? After I
finished grooving to the new song, the announcer
comes on and says, " A brand new one on the
survey by Foster Sylvers". Foster Sylvers ????
Who is he ?? LOL. Until his appearence on Soul
Train along with his sister Angie and Pat who
of course sang with Foster on the song, we always
refered to Misdemeanor as the Michael Jackson
soundalike song. LOL


Peace,
Mike Boone
(Chancellor of Soul)

chancellorofsoul.com
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SDF (handsome)
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Kev-Lo, you are on the money with Brighter Side of Darkness & 21st Century...the tunes more specifically: Loves Jones & Do You Remember The Rain?

Charise, I'm sorry I still didn't get the similiarity between BSOD & New Birth. Leslie's voice was a lil more raspy and mature sounding then the guy in BSOD. JMO :o)

I used to think Loleatta Holloway & Barbara Roy sounded similiar. For years, I never knew Ecstasy, Passion & Pain recorded the song "Touch & Go" because I thought it was Loleatta.

Handsome
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Kev-Lo (7273747576)
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Hi this is Kev-Lo hi SDF thank you for that compliment.I'm gonna go on the Rare side a little bit there was a group called The Carltons that redid a cut called HEY MR.LONESOME and they sounded pretty much like the Esquires

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