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MichaelOH (michaeloh)
1-Arriviste
Username: michaeloh

Post Number: 7
Registered: 5-2004
Posted From: 24.101.41.2
Posted on Friday, July 16, 2004 - 12:41 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Bobby..

Once when I was hanging around 50th St and Broadway, I was talking to a keyboardist, whose name was something along the lines of Eddie Simmons, or Sims perhaps...anyways, I mentioned your name, and he said he knew you quite well..

Wondering if you know who I'm talking about?

Thanks,

MichaelOH
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Eli (phillysoulman)
6-Zenith
Username: phillysoulman

Post Number: 698
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.236.50.117
Posted on Friday, July 16, 2004 - 12:44 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Could it be Sid Simmons who once played with Grover and with Locksmith, Grover's band?
Was he a "tallish" light brown skinned brother?
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MichaelOH (michaeloh)
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Username: michaeloh

Post Number: 8
Registered: 5-2004
Posted From: 24.101.41.2
Posted on Friday, July 16, 2004 - 12:57 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bobby,

He was "tallish", and light skinned...but I've done some research about Sid Simmons, and it doesn't appear to be him.

This guy was homeless, and also said he knew Babbitt quite well, and that Babbitt would kick his ass if he knew where he was now.

He did talk about playing with Rick James at one time...

Who knows? But he certainly brightened up when I mentioned you.
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Eli (phillysoulman)
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Username: phillysoulman

Post Number: 702
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.236.30.165
Posted on Saturday, July 17, 2004 - 2:13 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michael,
How long ago was the incident?
Im glad that I could brighten up someones day.
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MichaelOH (michaeloh)
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Username: michaeloh

Post Number: 9
Registered: 5-2004
Posted From: 24.101.41.2
Posted on Saturday, July 17, 2004 - 10:21 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bobby,

This was probably in late March, early April?

I'm going back to NY in August, so...I'll see if I can meet him again.

MichaelOH
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mel(andthensome) (mel)
5-Doyen
Username: mel

Post Number: 332
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 217.43.74.92
Posted on Saturday, July 17, 2004 - 2:20 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bobby
ever remember a group called
The Crossfires that recorded on Virtue
'take me back'
voc/inst.

cheers
mel-o-delphia
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Eli (phillysoulman)
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Username: phillysoulman

Post Number: 709
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.163.51.92
Posted on Saturday, July 17, 2004 - 9:15 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey mel,

Most definitely.
I have it somewhere around here.
The real Philly rarity expert hands down is Dave Brown at phillysnd@aol.com

I dont know how he finds em but he does.
feel free to get in touch with him at your leisure, mate
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mel(andthensome) (mel)
5-Doyen
Username: mel

Post Number: 334
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 81.154.240.122
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 2:39 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cheers Bobby
a forgotten 45 like so many
cheers bobby

mel-o-delphia
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Chi Drummer (chidrummer)
3-Pundit
Username: chidrummer

Post Number: 34
Registered: 5-2004
Posted From: 24.14.41.10
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 2:00 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Another question for Mr. Eli:
What do you think of the intro to I'll Be Around being used for a commerical? I'm assuming you were the guitarist on that session (correct me if I'm wrong) and it must be strange, but at the same time kind cool to have that riff just ramdomly pop out of your TV set.
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Eli (phillysoulman)
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Username: phillysoulman

Post Number: 723
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.162.123.197
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 7:20 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The guitars were Norman Harris and myself.
Thom Bell also played the clav on the song for extra emphasis.

Its great to know that our songs are still being used for commercials and I especially love the residuals.
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Chi Drummer (chidrummer)
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Username: chidrummer

Post Number: 36
Registered: 5-2004
Posted From: 24.14.41.10
Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 7:51 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was hoping that was part of the deal. Hooray for ASCAP & BMI :-)
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Carl Dixon (carl_dixon)
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Username: carl_dixon

Post Number: 58
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 82.44.203.80
Posted on Monday, July 19, 2004 - 10:34 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bobby, as a musician, how are residuals accounted for? Who lets you know that say, a commercial here or in France, is using a track you played on and that there is something in the piggybank for you?
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Eli (phillysoulman)
6-Zenith
Username: phillysoulman

Post Number: 732
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.163.49.181
Posted on Monday, July 19, 2004 - 11:27 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The American Federation of Musicians in conjunction with the ad agency who represent the product being hyped in the ad,and the performing right society who repreent the writers and publishers of the songs,are responsible for payment to the musicians involved in the sessions
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dvdmike (dvdmike)
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Username: dvdmike

Post Number: 194
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 65.208.234.61
Posted on Monday, July 19, 2004 - 12:48 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When Hammer released "Can't Touch This" using Rick James's track to "Super Freak", Rick didn't know about it until he heard it on the radio. He said he was pissed about it until he found out how much money it was making. Rick wrote the song, but he doesn't own the publishing, which is probably why he didn't know it had been released. Jobete or Stone Agate, either of those publishing houses, more than likely didn't inform him.
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Eli (phillysoulman)
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Username: phillysoulman

Post Number: 733
Registered: 4-2004
Posted From: 68.163.49.181
Posted on Monday, July 19, 2004 - 1:30 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thats right Mike.
If Rick owned the pub rights, imagine all the money he would have made not to mention the admin rights!

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