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  GO_GET_GONE_GIRL (gogogirl) 4-Laureate Username: gogogirl Post Number: 169 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 69.1.9.65 |
Greetings All, Okay - you all - and for once and for all - who is/was the King of Soul? The King of R&B? The King of Blues? The King of Jazz? The King of Pop? The King of Rock? The King of Gospel? The King of Rap? The King of Hip-Hop. The King of Ballads? No disrespect to the ladies mind you. http://www.rhino.com/store/Pro ductDetail.lasso?Number=78300 http://www.rhino.com/blackhist ory/bh03_sounds.lasso I have heard for years that Solomon Burke was the King of Soul - and that James Brown was the Godfather. I've also heard - that King Curtis and the Memphis connection is/was the King of Soul. And then there is Sam Cooke. I'll tell 'ya! And should the Kings be named according to what part of the country they are/were from - therefore having multiple ones? I.e., Philly - Memphis - Chicago - New Orleans - New York and last but not least - good 'ole Detroit? Will this debate never end? LOL! And was David Ruffin the best R&B singer ever like some believe? | ||
GO_GET_GONE_GIRL (gogogirl) 5-Doyen Username: gogogirl Post Number: 171 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 69.1.9.65 |
All, Hey Mr. Weldon. I see your song "Yes I'm Ready", made the list. I still love that song. Btw - I heard an up-to-date version on the "Nothing But Motown" station the other day. Had you anything to do w/that one - and who was singing? It was more up tempo. Danke'. | ||
~medusa~ (~medusa) 5-Doyen Username: ~medusa Post Number: 304 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 68.79.91.244 |
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ''KINGS Crowned" and "CROWNED Kings" ...Therefore, I can't even begin to name the best of the best. This is going to be a very interesting Thread | ||
GO_GET_GONE_GIRL (gogogirl) 5-Doyen Username: gogogirl Post Number: 173 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 69.1.9.65 |
All, Oops - I forgot Ray Charles. LOL! RIP - Mr. Ray. | ||
Jimmy Mack (luke) 5-Doyen Username: luke Post Number: 367 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.198.48.201 |
Oh its fun to name kings. My vote for soul/r and b--yes King David of Ruffin, with Prince Al of Green close in succession. | ||
GO_GET_GONE_GIRL (gogogirl) 5-Doyen Username: gogogirl Post Number: 174 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 69.1.9.65 |
Good Morning All, LOL - Jimmy. Great site. http://www.soultracks.com/arti st_bios.htm I see our very own Spyder Turner is listed. Hey Spyder. | ||
Destruction (destruction) 4-Laureate Username: destruction Post Number: 160 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 199.173.225.25 |
King of Soul: Otis Redding Otis Redding Otis Redding ....no disrespect, Clarence. | ||
Tony Russi (tony_russi) 5-Doyen Username: tony_russi Post Number: 172 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.18.10.112 |
JAMES BROWN. | ||
GO_GET_GONE_GIRL (gogogirl) 5-Doyen Username: gogogirl Post Number: 175 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 69.1.9.65 |
All, Check out the News page on the below site. I see the Omni Broadcasting Network will film a Four Tops Special at the Detroit Opera House - 28th July. (My brother's birthday) Alright now! Hey Deborah. Please tell your father hello - and I hope he is doing well. Natalie - Whitney & Dionne are going on tour also. I forgot - The King of Country. Johnny Cash or Willie Nelson? Too much! http://www.soultracks.com/news .htm | ||
Gary (gary) 3-Pundit Username: gary Post Number: 70 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 172.132.51.73 |
King of Soul? It's too hard for me to name just one person, but I'd vote for Otis Redding. King of Country? Again, very difficult to name just one person, but Hank Williams Sr. or George Jones would be my choices. | ||
Kev-Lo (7273747576) 4-Laureate Username: 7273747576 Post Number: 146 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 4.236.201.59 |
Hi this is Kev-Lo King of Soul hard to choose but to me CURTIS MAYFIELD | ||
Destruction (destruction) 4-Laureate Username: destruction Post Number: 165 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 199.173.225.21 |
King of Pop: Michael Jackson. | ||
Soul Sister (soul_sister) 6-Zenith Username: soul_sister Post Number: 991 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.43.165.220 |
OK.......Some of these were given their title back in the day, some is my own opinion: JAZZ: Singers... King-Legendary Jimmy Scott Queen-Billie Holiday Musicians... King-Charlie "Bird" Parker Big Band-Lionel Hampton's Orchestra Queen Of The Blues-Dinah Washington King Of The Blues-Bobby "Blue" Bland Honorable Mention: Big Maybelle & Etta James Queen Of R&B-Linda Jones King Of R&B-Jackie Wilson R&B Groups; Kings-The Manhattans (featuring: George "Smitty" Smith). Queens-The Chantels (featuring: Arlene Smith). Queen Of Soul-Areatha Franklin King Of Soul-Otis Redding Soul Brother #1, Godfather Of Soul-James Brown Group: The 5 Stairsteps King Of Rock & Roll-Elvis Presley Queen Of Rock & Roll-Janis Joplin Honorable Mention-Carol King (For writing all those cool songs). Queen Of Pop-Whitney Houston King Of Pop-Michael Jackson Queen Of Country & Western-Patsy Kline King Of County & Western-Willie Nelson Queen Of Bue-eyed Soul-Teena Marie King of Blue-eyed Soul-Johnny Maestro My humble list. Hey, GoGo, what's up girlfriend, what's new in Bama land??  S.S. | ||
Soul Sister (soul_sister) 6-Zenith Username: soul_sister Post Number: 992 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.43.165.220 |
OOPS-R.I.P.- Most Versatile Catagory: King-Brother Ray Charles Honorable Mention-Sammy "Baby" Ambrose S.S. | ||
Jimmy Mack (luke) 5-Doyen Username: luke Post Number: 372 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.198.48.201 |
okok--I had a brain malfunction--Otis of Redding is the Emperor.(tho David could de-throne him) | ||
Don (don) 5-Doyen Username: don Post Number: 318 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.51.186 |
I pass this thread a couple of times and everyone's look quite reasonable. I'd say people like Little Richard, James Brown, Sam Cooke, Jackie Wilson, Marvin Gaye, Otis Redding, Clyde Mc Fadder, Brook Benton, Big Joe Turner, Louis Jordan, Louie Armstrong, Duke Ellington, Count Bassie, Billy Eckstein, Joe Williams, Dizzy, Bird, Miles, Coltrane, Robert Johnson, Leadbelly, Muddy Waters, John Lee Hooker, Howlin Wolf, BB King, Bobby Blue Bland, Albert King, Johnny Taylor, Tyrone Davis, Ray Charles, Sammy Davis jr, Nat King Cole, Michael Jackson, Luther Vandross, Jimi Hyndrix, Sly Stone, George Clinton. Don | ||
Don (don) 5-Doyen Username: don Post Number: 321 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.51.186 |
I forgot about Wilson Pickett, Chuck Berry and Curits Mayfield (Curtis may as well be). Don | ||
Don (don) 5-Doyen Username: don Post Number: 322 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.51.186 |
Stevie Wonder, Isacc Hayes, Rick James, RUN DMC, Tupac, R. Kelly, Notorious BIG & DMX. Don | ||
Don (don) 5-Doyen Username: don Post Number: 324 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.51.186 |
Jay-Z! Don Chi-Town | ||
Don (don) 5-Doyen Username: don Post Number: 327 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.51.186 |
L.L. Cool J, Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five Afrika Bambata and Kool Herc. Don | ||
Destruction (destruction) 4-Laureate Username: destruction Post Number: 167 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 69.139.236.125 |
Damn Don, You trying to pick the Congress of R n B or What...lol? | ||
Don (don) 5-Doyen Username: don Post Number: 335 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.77.39.106 |
Well Destruction, I paid alot of attention to men & women who where all the pionners of music. Don | ||
Don (don) 5-Doyen Username: don Post Number: 336 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.77.39.106 |
Well Destruction, I paid alot of attention to men & women who where all the pionners of music. I forgot too we're Joe Tex, Rufus Thomas, Monk and Jazz Great Gene Ammons. | ||
Jimmy Mack (luke) 5-Doyen Username: luke Post Number: 392 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.198.48.201 |
My brain cant b trusted at times--of course Little Richard--the Originator--though is he soul and or rock and roll? | ||
Rodmann (rodmann) 5-Doyen Username: rodmann Post Number: 261 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 12.221.46.59 |
If we're talking about the King of Soul than I gotta go with JAMES BROWN! No other man dominated the music biz in the 60's and early 70's like The Godfather! Not Marvin Gaye, not Donny Hathaway, not Stevie Wonder not anybody. I'm not sure why people are always so reluctant to give him his props? | ||
Satipe (satipe) 2-Debutant Username: satipe Post Number: 20 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.50.137.38 |
A King in name, personality and musicianship - Mr. B.B. King | ||
Destruction (destruction) 5-Doyen Username: destruction Post Number: 178 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 199.173.225.24 |
Rodmann, I would never be foolish enough to question James' domination of Black music. IMHO, James music moved beyond what I consider Soul, especially the Polydor stuff. Satipe, Though he's not one of my top ten fave blues guys, he's probably more deserving of the title King of Blues than anyone else I can think of today. | ||
Rodmann (rodmann) 5-Doyen Username: rodmann Post Number: 264 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 12.221.46.59 |
I wasn't pointing the finger at any one in particular Destruction. I just think that time hasn't been as kind to James as it has to Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, Donny Hathaway, etc. Today he's seen as some sort caricature or character instead of a serious artist. It's a shame because he was THE KING plain and simple he recordings hold up remarkably well and still sound fresh. Love him or hate him, you can't deny that he had 60's and early 70's Black music in a chokehold. Nobody else even came close! | ||
Kdubya (paladin) 4-Laureate Username: paladin Post Number: 125 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 206.185.64.23 |
James Brown was King of Funk.........just my 2 cent...cause I'll be dammed if you didnt get funky dancing to all those "funkymcnastyjams" Cold Sweat Mother Popcorn Pt 1 & 2 Let Yourself Go Let A Man Come In Good Foot Superbad all great examples of Funky James...... funny I always thought of his There was a Time as "Rock"........hell James could do it all. Kdubya | ||
NY-DELL (dell) 3-Pundit Username: dell Post Number: 35 Registered: 6-2004 Posted From: 38.117.188.10 |
The musical universe is made up of many kingdoms, Jazz, blues, R&B, Funk, Soul, rap, hip-Hop, there are a few kings and queens out there, not to mention a few Princes, Princesses, Dukes, Earls and Lords....There is a place for MOST artist, not every artist is a king even if they were an early pioneer....but MOST are a part of Music Royalty...it may be easier to break down artist that way. There are artist out there that some may be ready to crown king, but they got their ispiration from someone else and their music is a reflection of that person...and some artist will admit that they aren't a king or queen and point to all the elements that influenced them to be what they are today. James Brown is not a blues guy...so it's not surprising that someone wouldn't name him in their top 10. Prince isn't a king, but in my opinion he's royalty. Aretha Franklin...Queen....Natalie Cole...royalty but no queen. This is a very interesting thread....but ones opinion deserve a lot of thought and a vast knowledge of musical history in order to give a honest and valid answer. | ||
GO_GET_GONE_GIRL (gogogirl) 5-Doyen Username: gogogirl Post Number: 183 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 69.1.9.65 |
Greetings All, LOL NY-DELL - I was just getting ready to post to this thread. You have a very interesting take on the question - indeed. And I love your using the word "Royalty." Thank you all for responding. Diana Ross is royalty - but so is Mary Wilson - IMO. Without all three of the original Supremes - there wouldn't have been the Supremes - for real - so Florence Ballard also has her place in the royal box. I have been wondering about the Jazz king. For instance - is/was it Ramsey Lewis - Cannonball Adderly - George Duke, etc? http://www.digitaldreamdoor.co m/pages/best_rb-ballads.html | ||
Destruction (destruction) 5-Doyen Username: destruction Post Number: 182 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 199.173.224.25 |
Rod and Kb, I know u weren't picking on me Rod, but it's weird that KB stepped right in with the point that I was going to come back and sharpen, which is that although Funk is more commonly associated with George Clinton, James is the true King. "and you can bet your bottom dollar you're never hear me holler I do the best that I can't do...." followed pure unadulterated, uncut, joyous, funk. My boss and I used to quote James at our branch and project meetings. When presented with a project we didn't want to do, our response would be, "We're people, we're just like the birds and the bees. We'd rather die on our feet, Than be livin' on our knees" My fave James recollection is earning comic book money from my best friends older sisters by doing my James Brown imitation when I was around 7 or 8. There was a Time. thx, kb. | ||
Don (don) 5-Doyen Username: don Post Number: 348 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.78.25.242 |
I post the real picks as being "King" as a posed to who might have their own personal picks & chooses. In overall, I simply went by popularity and record sales also by critical success. Some of you did make some ok picks regardless to those personal tastes. Don | ||
Rodmann (rodmann) 5-Doyen Username: rodmann Post Number: 279 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 12.221.46.59 |
James Brown had 118 R&B hits from 1956 - 1995. Aretha Franklin is the top female vocalist with 94 R&B hits from 1960 - 1994. In addition to James Brown I PERSONALLY enjoy Bobby Womack, Isaac Hayes and Barry White much more than Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder or Donny Hathaway. Just because I personally enjoy Bobby Womack, Isaac Hayes and Barry White the most I would never say that Bobby, Isaac and Barry were The Kings (AKA most popular of all-time). The same goes for the woman. Linda Jones, Judy Clay and Patti LaBelle are all women that could blow that I enjoy very much. I still couldn't list any of them as The Queen over Aretha Franklin if I was speaking for everyone. When it comes to Soul (1960 - 1975) James and Aretha were the King and Queen. Period. I'm sorry I misunderstood your topic Don. I was under the impression that we were really listing who was The King instead who we personally like the best! | ||
GO_GET_GONE_GIRL (gogogirl) 5-Doyen Username: gogogirl Post Number: 187 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 69.1.9.65 |
All, On the link I posted - for Top 100 Duo songs - they have - 47. Kris Kross ("Jump" 1992) LOL! That was a cute song. Marvin & Tammi = #4. The below was a beaut - was it not? 86. *James Ingram & Patti Austin ("How Do You Keep The Music Playing" 1983) | ||
Don (don) 5-Doyen Username: don Post Number: 353 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.78.25.242 |
I agree with you as far as Berry White go. No, Rod, I'll leave enough of my posting alone. I'll stand for the artist which I posted, that's it! Don | ||
Lady Mystique (ladymystique) 6-Zenith Username: ladymystique Post Number: 412 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 216.222.243.148 |
My list would be too long for me to post...LOL! | ||
Rodmann (rodmann) 5-Doyen Username: rodmann Post Number: 282 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 12.221.46.59 |
No, I didn't have a problem with your picks Don. I just didn't know that we were naming our personal favorites instead of the most popular artists overall. Destruction and Kdubya I agree with you two. James was the originator of Funk! He also cut some great Soul and Soul-Jazz sides as well. | ||
GO_GET_GONE_GIRL (gogogirl) 5-Doyen Username: gogogirl Post Number: 188 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 69.1.9.65 |
All, Uh-oh - these folks have Eddie K. as #17 and David R. as #28. I love my homeboy - but I don't know. LOL! They both were great. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm-hmm! We know what they say about opinions - indeed. The below is under 100 Greatest Male R&B Singers. 1. Jackie Wilson 2. Sam Cooke 3. Clyde McPhatter 4. Marvin Gaye 5. Tony Williams (Platters) 6. Curtis Mayfield 7. Smokey Robinson 8. Al Green 9. Roy Hamilton 10. Little Willie John 11. Solomon Burke 12. Ben E. King 13. Otis Redding 14. Luther Vandross 15. Stevie Wonder 16. Sam Moore (Sam & Dave) 17. Eddie Kendricks (Temptations) 18. Levi Stubbs (Four Tops) 19. James Carr 20. Bobby Blue Bland 21. Brook Benton 22. Jesse Belvin 23. Little Anthony 24. Willie Winfield (Harptones) 25. Nate Nelson (Flamingos) 26. Aaron Neville 27. Big Joe Turner 28. David Ruffin 29. Wilson Pickett 30. Frankie Lymon | ||
Don (don) 5-Doyen Username: don Post Number: 354 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.175.41 |
Not a problem Rodman, I guess I percieved it as it was posted. That's what I thought it really meant? Don | ||
Don (don) 5-Doyen Username: don Post Number: 358 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.173.112 |
Yo Rodman, What about Fats Waller, Cab Calloway and Jelly Roll Morton and I'll leave it at that, ok. Don | ||
Don (don) 5-Doyen Username: don Post Number: 364 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.182.218 |
I guess I told a fib about post which is not fair. I didn't even Artthur Prysock (if spelled it correctly) and O.V. Wright...right. Don | ||
Don (don) 5-Doyen Username: don Post Number: 366 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.182.218 |
Lionell Hampton | ||
Eli (phillysoulman) 6-Zenith Username: phillysoulman Post Number: 763 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.236.63.100 |
These are my votes for Kings of: Rock---- Chuck Berry Soul---- Otis Redding R&B Chuck Jackson Jazz---- Jimmy Scott Pop---- Nat King Cole Country--Hank Williams Blues-- Muddy Waters Rap--- Tupac Shakur Swing----Count Basie Kings----Jesus | ||
Don (don) 5-Doyen Username: don Post Number: 368 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.182.218 |
How could I forget about Jackson and Scott? Don | ||
Kdubya (paladin) 4-Laureate Username: paladin Post Number: 127 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 206.185.64.23 |
Well said everyone, now didn't Mr. Brown record for a record label "King", he also used to have his "Jerome" bring him his cape and drape it over his shoulders doing Please, Please, Please, ........I think we have to discuss the media influence at some point, but since most titles are singular....well hell, James will probably always be considered the King and likewise for Aretha........then after time passes there will most likely be another.......guess thats how "they" made Mike the "King of Pop" but we all know that on the other side of the coin there is only one King........and I aint hating but I just tend to stay away from titles that are not deserved in the first place....what next the Potenate of Neo-Soul ????? LOL and anyway how come all these potential self or media annoited Kings and Queens have so many dam issues ...what about R.Kelly, Whitey Houston, Bobby Brown, MJ, enough already......like I have said before James and Ree-Ree have earned theirs, Patti, Gladys and all the other royal subjects have earned theirs...now thats what I think is real cool.."Royalty"........end of story. I bet that would be one bad ass kingdom to live in.......and we all know what a great variety of subjects that the King could put in the dungeon for acting up..........hmmmm now that I think about it Ray Charles was probably the real King....now he's gone ................forgetaboutit. .... | ||
Rodmann (rodmann) 5-Doyen Username: rodmann Post Number: 295 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 12.221.46.59 |
Don, Fats Waller, Cab Calloway and Jelly Roll Morton were good. I guess if I had to pick my personal favorite male vocalists from that era they would be Count Basie's Jimmy Rushing (Mister 5 by 5) and Billy Eckstine. Kdubya, you're right about Ray Charles. I think he was The King in the 50's and early 60's and James Brown sort of picked up where he left off. Ray moved on to other musical genres instead of exclusively Black music. Eli, I'm feelin' your list as well! | ||
NY-DELL (dell) 3-Pundit Username: dell Post Number: 36 Registered: 6-2004 Posted From: 38.117.188.10 |
Kdubya: Well buddy I haven't heard from you in a while. Well yes I agree with you....oh what a kingdom it would be....but there are bad guys every where....who would you put on a list of the bad boys/girls of music....talented...but bad....not royalty....just the ones who march to their own music.....those who some may call weird....but are just living in their own world....Would Michael Jackson, George Clinton, Prince, Macy Gray, be on your....by the way Kdubya....Let the band play on...... | ||
Don (don) 5-Doyen Username: don Post Number: 371 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.59.66 |
Hey Rod your always on time with it man! I've always dug the music of Jimmy Rushen with or without Basie. His records we're all over my house. Ok, I told a fib again....what about Fats Domino. Don | ||
oli67 (ollie) 1-Arriviste Username: ollie Post Number: 9 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 213.132.174.166 |
to me True Kings and Queens are Duke Ellington, Louise Armstrong, ChickWebb, Charlie Parker, Cab Calloway, John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Philly Joe Jones, Elvin Jones, Dinah Washington, Sarah Vaughn, Billie Holiday James Brown, Otis Redding, Sam Cooke, Jackie Wilson, Louise Jordan & Band, Curtis Mayfield, The Funk brothers, Sly Stone, Larry Graham, Bar Kays, Funkadelic, Prince, BDP, 2Pac, Scott La Rock, Grandmaster Flash, and all the people who are posting here u got soul | ||
Kdubya (paladin) 4-Laureate Username: paladin Post Number: 129 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 206.185.64.23 |
NY-Dell,Rodman and SDF, it's about time for a stage play about this very topic......Ray Charles The King, James the future King....Lady Day, then Aretha,in fact lets have a world where theres a land of a thousand dances and different kings and queens having showtimes at the Apollo for the right to rule the planet......whew I'd love to see Little Richard go up against Prince.....Tempts versus Dramatics for the seats at the round table...wait a minute what the heck would we call it "Lord of The Kings" if they can do it in Hollywood we can do it too......any writers out there...Lets see Miles Davis could be the wizard, Gladys and Patti could be the good witches....R Kelly could be the prisoner behind the mask........Michael could be a Gollum.........ROTFLOL........ ....ok, ok, sounds like a movie...think I'll put in a call to Disney............. Kdubya | ||
NY-DELL (dell) 3-Pundit Username: dell Post Number: 39 Registered: 6-2004 Posted From: 38.117.188.10 |
Michael as Gollum ?.....That's not fair to Gollum | ||
Kdubya (paladin) 4-Laureate Username: paladin Post Number: 131 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 206.185.64.23 |
But Ny-Dell, couldn't you just hear him sighing/singing.....eee..eee.. .eee....my precious......eee..eee...eee as he Moonwalks up the wall.....I think it would be a real Thriller.... Kdubya | ||
Rodmann (rodmann) 5-Doyen Username: rodmann Post Number: 299 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 12.221.46.59 |
Don, I'm glad that I'm not the only one who enjoys Jimmy Rushing's singing! He recorded some good stuff in his day. I wish that more people today were familiar with him. | ||
Don (don) 5-Doyen Username: don Post Number: 399 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.172.131 |
Hey Rod, Don't know if you can Check out Bluesbeforesunrise.com over the net. Don | ||
Jimmy Mack (luke) 6-Zenith Username: luke Post Number: 423 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.198.48.201 |
Love it--Little Richard would kick Prince's butt.(new show opened in NYC about 3 guys meeting and forming R and B group at the Apollo) | ||
Don (don) 5-Doyen Username: don Post Number: 404 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.172.131 |
Hmm. |
