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  Jimmy Mack (luke) 5-Doyen Username: luke Post Number: 350 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.198.48.201 |
I dont know but I love her music. | ||
Kev-Lo (7273747576) 4-Laureate Username: 7273747576 Post Number: 136 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 4.236.201.95 |
Hi this is Kev-Lo Sade is indeed a great singer I got to see her several years back and she was great.But as far as her being a soul singer well I think if she was back in the 60's and 70's then yes you could say she is a soul singer.But in the 80's and 90's in which was the era she sang in I would'nt consider her being a soul singer simply because the 80's and 90's was'nt soul era's. That's just my opinion. | ||
Soul Sister (soul_sister) 6-Zenith Username: soul_sister Post Number: 963 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.43.165.220 |
Sade sings on the Jazz tip. S.S. | ||
Chi Drummer (chidrummer) 2-Debutant Username: chidrummer Post Number: 28 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 24.14.41.10 |
Sade is my absolute, all time, favorite vocalist. If I had to put a label on her, I might call her a pop artist the same way Frank Sinatra or Sarah Vaughn were often called pop singers. Even Diana Krall gets hit with that one from time to time. Bottom line though, I agree with Duke Ellington: there are only two kinds of music, good and bad. | ||
Jimmy Mack (luke) 5-Doyen Username: luke Post Number: 351 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.198.48.201 |
well said; I keep forgetting it is really a group!There is something so haunting, moody and infectious about their music. Her voice gets into my bones! | ||
Wonder B (wonder_b) 6-Zenith Username: wonder_b Post Number: 572 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.48.121.206 |
You're right Jimmy Mack... Sade is not only a voice but a group... Suart Matthewman (guitar & sax) and Paul Denman (bass) and Andrew Hale are such tasteful musicians... check her live DVD's or catch them live and you'll know what I mean. It's fun noticing that she's praised for her singing in 2004, while I remember many critics (when their first album came out) who were saying Sade just couldn't sing... it's true that she has a very special way of singing, very flat, often low key... but that's what made her special and set her aside in the end... Wonder B If you mess with the 'fro, you gotta go! | ||
Eli (phillysoulman) 6-Zenith Username: phillysoulman Post Number: 643 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 172.174.153.66 |
SOUL, is from within. SOUL is sincerity. Way too many folks hava a distorted conception as too what hte criteria is for one to become a "soul singer" as the term had been bastardized and misused over the years. You dont have to do over the top melismatic runs to qualify as a "soul" singer. So, with that being said, yes Sade IS a soul singer. | ||
Soul Sister (soul_sister) 6-Zenith Username: soul_sister Post Number: 965 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.43.165.220 |
Amen to that Bobby..."soul" IS from deep within whatever the 'genre' may be! It's not just a style as many believe the meaning to be but rather the truth of the life the person lived projected from their feelings within thru their song, letting all the emotions flow out uninhibitedly. It's pure, it's real, the genuine article. S.S. | ||
Jimmy Mack (luke) 5-Doyen Username: luke Post Number: 352 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.198.48.201 |
Well said all. Does Sade have any new recrdings going on? | ||
Rodmann (rodmann) 5-Doyen Username: rodmann Post Number: 231 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 12.221.46.59 |
I'm glad that you started this topic about Sade, Jimmy. I was going to start one awhile back but I wasn't sure exactly how I was going to phrase it. Will someone please explain to me what this woman's appeal is from a musical standpoint? I don't mean to rain on this love fest but I've never gotten it (Sade). I've liked a few of her songs through the years but I've always wondered why she's so revered. What does she have to do with Soul music? What's so great about a woman with no voice whispering her way through songs because she doesn't have the pipes to belt it out? If whispering is considered great singing Britney Spears, Janet Jackson, Ashanti and Aaliyah must be musical geniuses! I'm sorry if I sound harsh but will someone please tell me what's it all about? | ||
Chi Drummer (chidrummer) 2-Debutant Username: chidrummer Post Number: 29 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 24.14.41.10 |
I'll take a stab at that  & speaking for my self: Obviously, Rodmann you have never seen this woman and her incredible band live. They are exciting, dynamic and at the same time fully in control of what they do. Eli is quite right, she/the group are the very essence of soul. I saw them the very first time they played Chicago, I saw them in 2001 and I've seen them on other tours. Each time the audience is just mesmurized by the way Sade and the band work their material. Now I'll agree that Sade does not possess great range. After all she is an alto and most altos can only go so far. I what makes her so special is what she does with her voice. Yes, voice can be a whisper, but it also shouts, it caresses, it floats, it does everything the music calls for without ever being overbearing. There are very few entertainers that can turn a 20,000 seat auditorium into an intimate living room. Sade is one of those entertainers. Try watching a copy of the Lovers Live dvd. You should get some sense of what I'm trying to express. | ||
Don (don) 5-Doyen Username: don Post Number: 269 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.54.198 |
Maybe, maybe not. I'll say this for Sade she's a very versitile artist. She does have a crooner torch style appeal to me, like a jazz musician. | ||
Rodmann (rodmann) 5-Doyen Username: rodmann Post Number: 238 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 12.221.46.59 |
Thanks Chi Drummer. You're right, I've never seen her live. Maybe I would enjoy her music more live because she does nothing for me on wax. Sade's singing does have a jazzy quality to it but it's very monotone (at least on the singles I've heard through the years). If I was going to compare her to a Soul singer I would put her in the same category as someone like Patti Drew. Patti always threw a few runs and shouts into her singing though. Sade just whispers. I've always been more impressed by belters instead of crooners. The best singers IMO are the ones that can do both. I've never gotten Roberta Flack's appeal either but that's another topic............... | ||
Destruction (destruction) 4-Laureate Username: destruction Post Number: 146 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 69.139.236.125 |
Short answer for me is yes....however, after reading Chi Drummer's and Rodmann's posts, I realize that Sade is one of those singers whom I can't separate the voice from the looks from the way she moves. I mean, I get wrapped up in the hips, the whisper, the downward glance, the intmacy...and I can't be objective. Rodmann, As for Roberta....try Dylan's "Do What You Gotta Do", then try Roberta's off of her Chapter 2 album. That's for starters....lol. | ||
Jimmy Mack (luke) 5-Doyen Username: luke Post Number: 358 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.198.48.201 |
Well well said Destruction. Ive never thought of Sade as a whisperer. And compared to Miss Jackson, well to me there is no comparison. Janet is a great dancer who cant sing. Sade gives me goosebumps--a little goes a long way and I love shouters too. Since Ive always leaned towards Aretha, Patti per females it is something that Sade reaches me--from what Ive read about her she is REAL.(Im surre she is great in concert but Ive never seen her perform--her records have moved me) | ||
Kdubya (paladin) 4-Laureate Username: paladin Post Number: 116 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 206.185.64.23 |
Well said all, for me she is simply marvelous....the voice, the moves, her band....the phenomenon that is Sade and her band is quite akin to the place that serves as a lauching pad for Frankie Beverly and Maze you cant quite put your finger on it...on record and CD ...but to see and hear them live is just delightful......great topic.....her band also made a couple of decent albums, one with with Amel L as lead vocalist ...... Kdubya | ||
SDF (handsome) 5-Doyen Username: handsome Post Number: 236 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 170.118.158.14 |
Hi All. Sade's band "Sweetback" cd is excellent. You Will Rise-With Amel on lead Softly, Softly-With Maxwell on lead I love Sade's voice. She is definitely unique. Sure she may not be an Aretha, Enda Wright, Gladys Knight or Patti, but this woman is bad! That's one of the reasons I enjoy music some much, because of the uniqueness of voices. Handsome | ||
Uptight (uptight) 4-Laureate Username: uptight Post Number: 97 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 69.161.239.218 |
I have supported the Sade band since they were introduced in the US. Even if you don't consider her a Soul singer, she sure sings with a lot of soul. The band is very much smooth jazz. btw: Did I hear or read somewhere that its spinoff band, Sweetback, has a 2nd CD now? | ||
Chi Drummer (chidrummer) 2-Debutant Username: chidrummer Post Number: 30 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 24.14.41.10 |
That's true. Sweetback just released their second CD. It's sound is a bit different from the first one. Different, better to me because I didn't like the first one that much (nothing turns me off quicker than an album full of drum machine tracks made by non-drummers). | ||
Tony Russi (tony_russi) 4-Laureate Username: tony_russi Post Number: 167 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.210.49.201 |
"Is Sade a soul singer" No. | ||
Don (don) 5-Doyen Username: don Post Number: 282 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.171.151 |
I think Chi Drummer is right. But Sade is a second alto by the sound of her voicing. She sings monotone which is flat in low and upper notes. I wouldn't say she's more of a piano singer in the style of a Anita Baker though. I think Sade sings with what sound or groove that moves her. I think her and band's music is presented excellently. Don in Chi-Town | ||
SoniT (sonit) 2-Debutant Username: sonit Post Number: 28 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.106.213.162 |
I agree with Chi Drummer 100%! I love Sade, been a fan since the Diamond Life album back in '84 or '85. I love Sade's smooth, laid back voice. I don't think she's a "whisperer" at all. Her band is awesome! | ||
Don (don) 5-Doyen Username: don Post Number: 293 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.54.152 |
I stand corrected, Sade at times do sing in a soprano voicing. I thought the band recorded as Groove Factor or Groove Theory? Don in Chi-Town | ||
Rodmann (rodmann) 5-Doyen Username: rodmann Post Number: 247 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 12.221.46.59 |
Don, Groove Theory was a mid 90's Hip-Hop/R&B duo that included producer Bryce Wilson and whispering songstress Amel Larrieux. Amel is now a solo artist. You may have heard Amel's soprano and thought it was Sade singing. I can see how you would get these two confused since Amel has a similar vocal style as Sade's, looks like Sade, has modeled her herself after Sade with the whole mysterious bit and makes music that appeals to the same people who enjoy Sade's music. The only difference between these two is that Amel has a soprano and Sade's voice is much deeper. They both whisper IMO. Tony, I'm with you. I personally don't get what this has to do with Soul music. I've always thought that Sade's popularity was due more to her being so mysterious instead of any actual singing or musical talent. To Each His Own! I guess we all have our own interpretations of what Soul music actually is. A lot of singers that I'm wild about and think are very soulful and talented do absolutely nothing for some people. |
