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  David Meikle (david_meikle) 5-Doyen Username: david_meikle Post Number: 234 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 81.130.211.124 |
Can anyone help me with the writing credits for the following songs. Robert Ward-Nobody does something for nothing Rose Batiste-Somebody And were they both Thelma Publishing? | ||
Graham Finch (acooolcat) 4-Laureate Username: acooolcat Post Number: 113 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.200.105.225 |
David Rose's song is titled "Someday" on my 45. It was written by Kingfish, and is Thelma publishing. 'Fish produced it too. What a guy! | ||
David Meikle (david_meikle) 5-Doyen Username: david_meikle Post Number: 236 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 81.130.211.124 |
Thanks Graham. That's why I couldn't find it! | ||
Lars Nilsson (lg_nilsson) 2-Debutant Username: lg_nilsson Post Number: 15 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 83.226.10.73 |
David, I have got some information and scans for you:  A-side of Thelma 102 is called �I Can�t Leave You� written by J. Golphine (Who is he/she?) and Don Davis who also produced it.  B-side of Thelma 601 is �Your Love Is Real� also written by Robert Ward. All the best Lars | ||
David Meikle (david_meikle) 5-Doyen Username: david_meikle Post Number: 239 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 82.1.161.161 |
Lars Many thanks for the fantastic scans. Much appreciated. | ||
Don (don) 5-Doyen Username: don Post Number: 283 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.171.151 |
Oh Wow! I didn't know Robrt Ward & The Ohio Untouchables recorded for Thelma. I guess one'll learn something new every day. I'm aware of "Gonna cry me a river" as solo artist for Thelma. Sorry that I passed this and didn't see it before. I commented on a thread that coinsides with this thread, it was Forgotten Funk Bro about Mike Terry. I recall, and I'm speaking of the song on that thread in regards to Joe Mathews' "You better mend your ways. I thought it came out before The Miracles' "Mickey's Monkey". I remember Chi-Town radio played the song like crazy, and all of a sudden that stopped playing Joe's cut. I curious to know which release came out first-was it Thelma or the Tamla inprint? Don in Chi-Town | ||
Robb_K (robb_k) 5-Doyen Username: robb_k Post Number: 353 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.232.150.240 |
I think I've seen J. "Golphine" listed as Jane or JoAnne? Gophine or Gopphine. I've seen it spelt both ways on a few Thelma records. I think I've seen her listed as a writer on at least 5-6 Detroit #60s soul records, (most with Thelma during 1963-66). I do seem to remember one or two later records on which she was a writer and co-producer for other small Detroit labels in 1967 or 1968. I can't remember which labels, but maybe one of them was related to an Armen Boladian financed production, and another was for an MSK-related label? Unfortunately, I can't look at my Detroit 45s until November. (Message edited by Robb_K on July 14, 2004) | ||
Graham Finch (acooolcat) 4-Laureate Username: acooolcat Post Number: 120 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.200.105.229 |
Robb, it's James "Doc" Golphine: I think some artists called him "Nervous." | ||
Robb_K (robb_k) 5-Doyen Username: robb_k Post Number: 361 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.232.150.53 |
Thanks, Graham. I do remember seeing James with the Gophine and Gopphine. I don't remember seeing it with the "L". I did get thrown on the male-female question, as I remembered seeing somebody list him as "Jane", and refer to her as "She". I wonder if there was a man named Golphine, and a woman named Gopphine? But knowing the printers made several errors on our Airwave Records, pressings, I can guess how that happened also in the sixties. Anyway, do you have information on who the guy was, and what he did for Armen Boladian and Ed Kaplan's productions,- and any other small Detroit labels.? What was his relationship to The Colemans and Don Davis. Did he work much with Joey "King" Fish, Don Juan Mancha and some of the other Thelma people. Clay McMurray was there. Surely he remembers James? | ||
Graham Finch (acooolcat) 4-Laureate Username: acooolcat Post Number: 121 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.200.105.229 |
Hi Robb I once went to meet and interview James (about 7 years ago) at a bar he was working in on Livernois, not too far from Clay's studio. Kingfish told me about his nickname and I think he was primarily a songwriter, but I don't have too much info' on him. I never got to meet him, and I don't know if he's still working at that bar. | ||
BJL (bjl) 2-Debutant Username: bjl Post Number: 22 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 217.205.87.151 |
Joey Kingfish was Joseph Bruce Stribling. He produced several Thelma recordings and some by bluesman Mr Bo, I seem to remember. He did sing a track with Eddie Anderson (I Won't Hurt You Anymore) on Goldmine's "Groovesville Review #2". Just to clarify the various spellings on this thread, it was James Goffphine Jr. | ||
Don (don) 5-Doyen Username: don Post Number: 303 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.48.235 |
Always been facinated with The Thelma Label and hopeful it'll be a Thelma Story here on SoulfulDetroit.COM Don | ||
Graham Finch (acooolcat) 4-Laureate Username: acooolcat Post Number: 122 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.200.105.225 |
BJL, Kingfish is still alive and well. He had a 45 on the Checkmate label: an instrumental of Summertime. It's actually titled "(Come Back) Summertime" on the label, credited to Joey King. He was also one of the main men at Diamond Jim Riley's studio. | ||
BJL (bjl) 2-Debutant Username: bjl Post Number: 23 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 217.205.87.151 |
Thanks Graham. The Mr Bo 45s produced by Joey Kingfish were recorded for Diamond Jim. (BTW I love that great "Story Of Diamond Jim" or whatever it was called that he made...) | ||
Graham Finch (acooolcat) 4-Laureate Username: acooolcat Post Number: 124 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.200.105.229 |
Hi BJL Yes, it's called "The Legend of Diamond Jim," by Diamond Jim, on the Diamond Jim label. There's also another 45 called "Diamond Jim Party." Who actually bought those 45s at the time?! |
