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  maxwell paternoster (pmanky) 1-Arriviste Username: pmanky Post Number: 1 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 195.93.33.10 |
hello there im new to the forum and i was after some information about the buddah label. I was wondering, does anybody on here now anything about who the buddah musicians were and where the stuff was rechorded. there is quite a bit of info about the motown studio and musicians but buddah seems to be a bit more illusive. i would like to now for instance who played bass on the superfly album by curtis mayfield or any other curtis albums. and who played on the gladys knight hits , where peaceful waters flow and pipe dreams. thank you, im new on here | ||
mel(andthensome) (mel) 5-Doyen Username: mel Post Number: 283 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.152.20.86 |
Hey maxwell great label mate but I cant help you regards your question as all my buddah 45s are 60's material. But this is the place to get that info mate. regards mel | ||
mel(andthensome) (mel) 5-Doyen Username: mel Post Number: 284 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.152.20.86 |
maxwell dont know if this will answer your questions but worth a look at The Kama Sutra/Buddah story on http://www.bsnpubs.com/buddah/ buddahstory.html mel | ||
maxwell paternoster (pmanky) 1-Arriviste Username: pmanky Post Number: 2 Registered: 7-2004 Posted From: 195.93.33.10 |
yes this looks like it holds a lot of answers. ill download it and give it a good ol readin thank you | ||
Soul Sister (soul_sister) 6-Zenith Username: soul_sister Post Number: 947 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.43.165.220 |
TIMOTHY WILSON had some awesome sides on Buddah: Baby Baby Please Say It Again Queen Of Hearts S.S. | ||
Kev-Lo (7273747576) 4-Laureate Username: 7273747576 Post Number: 130 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 4.231.247.46 |
Hi this is Kev-Lo welcome to the Maxwell.Ofcourse The Five stairsteps had Ooh Child on that label as well | ||
Robb_K (robb_k) 5-Doyen Username: robb_k Post Number: 350 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.232.152.69 |
Buddah Records was based in New York, and pick up, leased, distributed product from all over USA. The session musicians recorded material pressed on the label in NYC, NJ, Chicago, The South, Los Angeles, and many other places. The session players were different for Robert Bateman and lou Courtney's NY productions from the NY productions of Van McCoy, and other NY producers whose recordings ended up pressed by Buddah. I'd be curious to find out that Buddah had a "House Band"! | ||
Garo (gary_james) 2-Debutant Username: gary_james Post Number: 15 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 192.234.106.2 |
Whatever happened to Kasenetz/Katz, the Buddah writers and producers? I've never seen them interviewed. Probably retired with that Simon Says money. | ||
mel(andthensome) (mel) 5-Doyen Username: mel Post Number: 292 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.154.242.240 |
Quick joey small jesus that takes me back mel | ||
BOSS (boss) 2-Debutant Username: boss Post Number: 16 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 69.156.44.130 |
 Just dug this one out, sorry about the scan quality but I can't seem to grasp this yet. | ||
mel(andthensome) (mel) 5-Doyen Username: mel Post Number: 305 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.154.240.106 |
Memories with that disc Right on Boss mel | ||
Graham Finch (acooolcat) 4-Laureate Username: acooolcat Post Number: 114 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 210.200.105.225 |
I have a "Detroit" Buddah 45, recorded at Pac 3. It's Sandra Richardson singing a Jack Ashford - Lorraine Chandler job, "The Ring." (Buddah #260) | ||
Garo (gary_james) 2-Debutant Username: gary_james Post Number: 17 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 192.234.106.2 |
Although not on the Buddah label, another Kasenetz/Katz/Levine production, "Gimme Gimme Good Lovin" by Crazy Elephant featured Robert Spencer of The Cadillacs on lead vocal! | ||
Kevin Goins - KevGo (kevgo) 4-Laureate Username: kevgo Post Number: 107 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 64.33.151.61 |
Folks: As Robb indicated, Buddah Records was founded in 1967 by a group of partners led by Arthur Kass, who was an accountant for MGM Records. These same partners (including Artie Ripp) were the brains behind Kama Sutra Records/Productions, which was launched in 1965 and distributed by MGM (where they met Kass). Kass then hired Neil Bogart (who was the VP of Cameo/Parkway, which was also distributed by MGM) to be Buddah's president. Neil in turn hired Cecil Holmes to be the label's VP of R&B music. Buddah didn't have a "house band". If anything they were more like "the house of trends". Bubblegum (Kasenetz/Kass), Gospel (Edwin Hawkins, Melanie's "Lay Down (Candles In The Rain)"), Soul (Curtom, T-Neck & Sussex were all distributed by Buddah whereas Gladys Knight & the Pips' "Midnight Train To Georgia" would have to be the label's most successful single) and mellow rock ("One Toke Over The Line") all brought in the dough for the label thanks in part to Neil Bogart's relentless style of record promotion. Kevin Goins - KevGo | ||
mel(andthensome) (mel) 5-Doyen Username: mel Post Number: 314 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.43.74.88 |
hey kev good to have ya back bro' mel | ||
Kevin Goins - KevGo (kevgo) 4-Laureate Username: kevgo Post Number: 112 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 64.33.151.61 |
Mel: Thanks! Kevin Goins - KevGo | ||
Ralph Terrana (ralph) Moderator Username: ralph Post Number: 393 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 209.240.205.63 |
Well for crying out loud. Welcome back Kev!! | ||
Kevin Goins - KevGo (kevgo) 4-Laureate Username: kevgo Post Number: 115 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 64.33.151.61 |
Thanks, Ralph! And Happy Birthday, my friend! Kevin Goins - KevGo | ||
Mark Speck (mark_speck) 3-Pundit Username: mark_speck Post Number: 57 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 4.159.134.178 |
Hey Stranger, good to see you back and posting! There are just too many good sides on Buddah, no matter what genre of music you're into. Some great soul sides: Modulations--"I Can't Fight Your Love" Mel Williams--"Sweet Little Girl of Mine" Carl Douglas--"Marble and Iron" Margie Evans--"Waterfalls" and those are just the tip of the iceberg! Best, Mark | ||
mel(andthensome) (mel) 5-Doyen Username: mel Post Number: 323 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.152.20.70 |
Hey Mark good to have you back agree with all you said anyone mention 'tryin' to find my woman' Lou Courtney and as its a detroit forum there was also Joe Andersons version of Ed Summers 45 on soya for buddah titled 'you and I' wasnt detroits Dave Jordan involved production or writing wise regards the track? gotta go buddah mel 'sen-sei' | ||
Eli (phillysoulman) 6-Zenith Username: phillysoulman Post Number: 669 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 149.174.164.84 |
Maxwell, Only a handfull of labels had house bands, some of whom were: The Funk Brothers- Motown MFSB- Philadelphia International Booker T and the MG's-Stax/Volt Hi Rhythm- Hi Muscle Hoals Rhythm Section- Fame/ MSS/ Florence Alabama | ||
Robb_K (robb_k) 5-Doyen Username: robb_k Post Number: 356 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.232.141.129 |
Let's not forget The Vonnettes, Judy White, Henry Lumpkin, The Monitors Chris Bartley, and many others. | ||
Manny (manny) 5-Doyen Username: manny Post Number: 226 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.124.51.152 |
Hello again, Pazant Brothers & Pointer Sisters! I likes a lot a song called "Just When I Needed You Most" by Randy Vanwarmer, on Buddah and never knows nothing more about this artist. In fact i heard this song in the first 70's many times in the radio and at the present i got it in a Cd compilation by UK Marble (all the selections are from Buddah except some few by Sugarhill). I never see a pick by this artist. A very mellow ballad. Peace & Soul Food | ||
zebop (zebop) 4-Laureate Username: zebop Post Number: 73 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 152.163.252.200 |
I remember that song Manny. It was on Bearsville/Warner in the states. Vanwarmer went on to write big hits for the Oak Ridge Boys, Alabama, to name a few. Sadly he passed away about six months ago. | ||
Manny (manny) 5-Doyen Username: manny Post Number: 228 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.124.51.152 |
Thanks for your info, Zebop! Is sad to know he passed. I believed (for the voice) he was a female singer. Peace, friend | ||
zebop (zebop) 4-Laureate Username: zebop Post Number: 75 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 152.163.252.200 |
No problem Manny. Yeah I got the news about Vanwarmer on a website. His voice was high on that song  (Message edited by zebop on July 15, 2004) | ||
Manny (manny) 5-Doyen Username: manny Post Number: 229 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.124.52.245 |
Hello again, Zebop and all! Hi, Kev-Go, I'm glad you are here again, amigo! I never forget that one time you salute Carl Davis and The Chi-lites in the name of a spanish fan! Some other Buddah greats recordings I got (or have heard) are Norman Connors, Phyllis Hyman, Michael Henderson (solo and featuring Jean Carn in the fantastic "Valentine Love"), Melba Moore, Andrea True Connection, Trammps,... Also, in Spain appeared one albums serie entitled "Invasi�n Buddah", with a OVNI in the sleeve and the names of the artists. I'm not sure if in some of these albums appears Little Anthony. I never acquired a Lp of this serie because everytime i find in second hand stores in very bad estate. Peace & Soul Food | ||
mike s (mike_s) 4-Laureate Username: mike_s Post Number: 88 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 195.93.33.10 |
Manny...I don't think Little A recorded for Buddah...may have been his Avco stuff which he recorded with Thom B and Teddy Randazzo. By the way, hope you are keeping cool. I hear it is hottt over in Spain right now. | ||
Manny (manny) 5-Doyen Username: manny Post Number: 276 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.124.52.116 |
Hi Mike! Thanks for your good wishes. I hope also you have a good summer without excessive hot temperatures. Here is terriffic and I only can supporting it when some sunday descend canyons in the glacial waters WITHOUT ISOTHERMIC PROTECTION! In another trhead (I believe is in "Your Fave Classical Arrangements In A Soul Song") i mentioned the T. Bell - Teddy Randazzo produced Little Anthony's LP ("On A New Street"). I don't got it but have the intuition that should be very classically arranged. About the "Invasi�n Buddah" artists, probably you have reason. This was in the 70's and don't well remember. Best regards and keeping very cool, amigo Mike. | ||
roger (roger) 4-Laureate Username: roger Post Number: 148 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.35.87.17 |
Hello Everyone. Maxwell .. what country are you in? I see that you have mentioned CURTIS MAYFIELD as a Buddah artist. Where I live ( England ), his early '70s material was released on the U.K. Buddah label ( "Move on Up", "Freddies Dead", Superfly", "We Gotta Have Peace" etc. ), however in the U.S. it was on his own Curtom label. Could it be that you are another Brit joining our merry throng? Anyway, a few other soulful early '70s Buddah artists worthy of mention ( and on Buddah in the U.S. as well as the rest of the known world ) that I can think of are ... BARBARA MASON .. especially "Give Me Your Love" ( a fantastic CURTIS MAYFIELD production ), and "Bed and Board" ( A wonderfully under-stated world-weary philly ballad ). THE TRAMMPS .. "Zingg"/"Penguin at the Big Apple", "Hold Back the Night"/"Scrub Board", "Sixty Minute Man" .. before they moved to P.I.R/Golden-Fleece and Atlantic. THE MODULATIONS .. "I Can't Quit Your Love" ( nice VINCE MONTANA produced philly/dance track ). Roger | ||
Eli (phillysoulman) 6-Zenith Username: phillysoulman Post Number: 868 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.163.20.145 |
Roger, I wrote the arrangement for Bed and Board. I believe that Melissa Manchester wrote the song. | ||
Tony Russi (tony_russi) 5-Doyen Username: tony_russi Post Number: 190 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.210.24.109 |
Eli, Barbara Masons "Bed & Board" was BAAD!! | ||
Erik T (erik_t) 3-Pundit Username: erik_t Post Number: 41 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 64.228.108.38 |
What, no Baby Huey fans?! | ||
mel(andthensome) (mel) 5-Doyen Username: mel Post Number: 383 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.153.210.178 |
How about Baby Huey and the babysitters on Shann records. but thats another thread...... mel | ||
Charise (mistrivia1) 5-Doyen Username: mistrivia1 Post Number: 255 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 198.81.26.46 |
Gladys Knight & the Pips!!!!!!!!!! I've Got To Use My Imagination Best Thing That Ever Happened To Me Where Peaceful Waters Flow Midnight Train To Georgia The Entire "Claudine" STDK (it just flows Thanks Curtis Mayfield!! : | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 1510 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
Hi Mel, Just won Baby Huey - The Legend LP in an auction. I can't wait to hear the underground classic "Listen To Me". | ||
mel(andthensome) (mel) 5-Doyen Username: mel Post Number: 385 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.153.210.164 |
Nice one Juice the 45 I refer to above came out on 2 different labels Baby Huey and the babysitters 'justbeing careful/messin'with the kid' on Shann no.73924 And on the USA Label no.801 cheers mel | ||
Charise (mistrivia1) 5-Doyen Username: mistrivia1 Post Number: 267 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 198.81.26.46 |
Juice, I saw that on ebay!!! Let us know how it sounds!!! | ||
BOSS (boss) 3-Pundit Username: boss Post Number: 35 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.92.43.4 |
Hey Mel, if anyone can answer this it's you ... was "Just Being Careful" ever released on BREAKTHROUGH 1001 or was it a boot? I've never seen a copy and I would like to know. | ||
mel(andthensome) (mel) 5-Doyen Username: mel Post Number: 405 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.154.129.172 |
Boss neer seen 1 myself on a pressing only on Shann and USA. I am not the best to ask regards bootlegs flynny will know mel | ||
mel(andthensome) (mel) 5-Doyen Username: mel Post Number: 410 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.154.129.172 |
Boss wasnt Breakthrough no.101 The Inspirations 'no one can take your place' mel | ||
BOSS (boss) 3-Pundit Username: boss Post Number: 37 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.92.43.4 |
Mel, I have a listing for the one sided disc by The Inspirations (L. A. group) as BREAKTHROUGH 1001. But I don't have any numbers for the 1970's remix with a part 2 by this particular group. But in my files that I put together years ago on Baby Huey I also had BREAKTHROUGH 1001 as "Just Being Careful" it's just that I got the info from one of the old mailing lists and was wondering if it is a boot or not (probably is!). I'm also looking for the title to the flip of the Claude Huey release on EARLY BIRD 49654 "Feel Good All Over" Got any info on that one? | ||
Eli (phillysoulman) 6-Zenith Username: phillysoulman Post Number: 916 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.163.44.131 |
Spaking of Buddah, I had a record called Midnight Lady/jack in the Box, on David Morris released on the label. Sadly, they lost a decent record, but Midnight lady will be on the new Sound of Philadelphia vol 2 on expansion and jack...is on the Northern soul of Philadelphia vol 3. on Goldmine | ||
Kevin Goins - KevGo (kevgo) 4-Laureate Username: kevgo Post Number: 133 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 64.33.151.115 |
Folks: First of all, thanks for the info regarding the late Randy Vanwarmer. "You Left Me (Just When I Needed You Most)" continues to be a staple on "lite rock" radio stations across the country. To update regarding Buddah having a house band, one could say that the label did have a "house band" per say when Norman Connors came on board in the mid 1970s. He was the label's in-house music director and was responsible for the early hits by Phyllis Hyman and Michael Henderson among others. Kevin Goins - KevGo | ||
mel(andthensome) (mel) 6-Zenith Username: mel Post Number: 413 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.154.129.172 |
Boss feel good all oer/worst thing a man can do on Early Bird no.49054 mel | ||
BOSS (boss) 3-Pundit Username: boss Post Number: 38 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 69.156.47.106 |
Mel: Thanks a lot mate, much appreciated! BOSS. | ||
mike s (mike_s) 4-Laureate Username: mike_s Post Number: 99 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 195.93.33.10 |
Barbara did two versions of Bed and Board on consecutive albums - Give Me Your Love and Lady Love. The original was only 3.30 while the later version was over 8 minutes. Label says it was written by Flax and Lambert (Dennis?)and published by Buddah's inhouse Kama Sutra publishing company. No production credits on either album! | ||
mike s (mike_s) 4-Laureate Username: mike_s Post Number: 100 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 195.93.33.10 |
Manny - you mentioned On A New Street a while back, the Little Anthony album on Avco. This was one of the treats I discovered by chance when on holiday in New Orleans some years back. I'd never heard about the album but seeing that Thom B and Teddy R had produced it was enough for me. Sadly the album is pressed slightly off kilter but that doesn't stop enjoyment. Some lovely stuff on there and although the Bell tracks were mainly pulled off for singles, Teddy's Easier Said than Done is my favourite. A classy album with some wonderful arrangements. | ||
Manny (manny) 5-Doyen Username: manny Post Number: 294 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.124.52.96 |
Hello Submarine! Hi, Mike Thanks for your instructive comments. In fact I only knows this album because i got a book ("Gu�a esencial del Soul", by spanish Patricia Godes) where appears the sleeve in black & white and she says who is the producers. I thinks in a possible blend of "Hurt So Bad" and "Life Is A song Worth Singing" and I believe this can be the paradigma of the symphonic soul. Peace & Soul Food | ||
Manny (manny) 5-Doyen Username: manny Post Number: 295 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.124.52.96 |
Hello Submarine (again)! This is a Buddah Records thread and i forgot to say what is my all-time Buddah favorite: �In The Night Time� by Michael Henderson. Peace! | ||
count (the_count) 3-Pundit Username: the_count Post Number: 54 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 69.14.197.239 |
LOU CHRISTI on BUDDAH. "COUNT"  |
