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  Tony B. (tony_b) 1-Arriviste Username: tony_b Post Number: 2 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 212.56.114.168 |
I was just speaking to my brother-in-law Nigel on the telephone and he said that I should look again at an inner sleeve from one of the LPs Motown re-issued in the 1980s. I chose "Hi, We're The Miracles" ('cos I don't have the original) and what he said was there was there. Well spotted, lad! For a company like Motown, he thought it was surprising and so do I. If you don't know what I'm talking about, have a look for yourself! :-) | ||
LarsC (the_norwegian) 3-Pundit Username: the_norwegian Post Number: 34 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 80.203.27.167 |
Hey! I don't have one of those records but now I'm getting curious! What's on the inner sleeve ? Please tell  | ||
Tony B. (tony_b) 1-Arriviste Username: tony_b Post Number: 3 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 212.56.114.168 |
I promise to tell if someone else doesn't! | ||
Uptight (uptight) 4-Laureate Username: uptight Post Number: 85 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.55.0.68 |
Well, I'm in suspense, Tony. Was there more than one version of the inner-sleeve? All I have is the black & white one that starts with Commodores' "Machine Gun" in the top left corner, and I don't see anything peculiar. | ||
Tony B. (tony_b) 1-Arriviste Username: tony_b Post Number: 4 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 212.56.114.168 |
Look a little bit closer and it's easy to trace! :-) | ||
mike s (mike_s) 3-Pundit Username: mike_s Post Number: 55 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 195.93.33.10 |
TELL US PLEEEEASE>>>>>> | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 1289 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
Hi Tony! I'll take a shot here. Back in the 80s, I replaced some of my LPs with those Motown reissues that you speak of. One of the LPs that I replaced was the very "UN" Motown stylings of one Albert Greene, better known as Al Green. I have a few of his LPs that were re-issued on Motown. Believe it or not, for some reason that really annoyed me as Al wasn't a Motown artist. I also found the mastering of those Motown re-issues to be sorely lacking bottom when compared to the Hi originals. The funky Bill Cosby had re-issues on Motown as well. Ironically, Motown didn't purchase the rights to Bills' MUSIC Lps which is a shame. Bill made some seriously funny dance cuts..."Little Ole Man"....umm,umm,umm. (Message edited by juicefree20 on June 28, 2004) | ||
roger (roger) 4-Laureate Username: roger Post Number: 115 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.35.87.17 |
Hello Everyone. I'm also intrigued .. Like Juice I thought that this could be a reference to some material from the Hi label appearing on Motown .. ( I have a double L.P. of WILLIE MITCHELL material as one of these re-issues ). However .. then there was the "Look a Little Bit Closer its easy to Trace" post .. and that makes me think of a certain Mr Robinson. Please put us out of our misery Tony B. Roger P.S. .. Juice, that "Little Old Man" track was a big NS tune in the mid-70s and even got a release in the U.K. on Warner as a result. Its recently been included on the WEA compilation "After Hours Volume II". And for those of you unfamiliar with "Little Old Man" .. its an adaptation of STEVIE WONDER's "Uptight". Roger | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 1294 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
Hi Roger, Thank you for the info. I think that you're onto something there. The only problem is that some of the re-issues had different inner sleeves. Hmm, maybe I'd better check again. Man, I feel like Colombo. I didn't know that they played Little Old Man on the NS circuit. I bet that you guys got a great laugh out of that. Thanks for the info. Now let me find Mrs Colombo, got a mystery to solve | ||
Reese (reese) 4-Laureate Username: reese Post Number: 94 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 12.15.169.90 |
For the later reissues, there was a blue-tinted sleeves that had trivia questions. But I didn't notice anything strange. Of course, its been many years since I looked at one. C'mon, Tony, 'fess up. :-) | ||
FrankM (frankm) 2-Debutant Username: frankm Post Number: 13 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.155.225.57 |
Was "It's easy to trace" a big Smokey hint? | ||
Tony B. (tony_b) 1-Arriviste Username: tony_b Post Number: 5 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 212.56.114.168 |
I bet you all think it's something really shocking! He he For those people who don't have any, the inner sleeves of the reissues have little photos of various album covers, similar to the originals. The Hi connection is not the answer, sorry. I also have the Willie Mitchell double LP, which has blue-tinted sleeves. These are no good, you need to have a black and white one. Uptight, everything will be all right if you take a look around (your inner sleeve)! LOL (Message edited by tony_b on June 28, 2004) | ||
Uptight (uptight) 4-Laureate Username: uptight Post Number: 87 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.55.0.68 |
Well, I turned it over, and all I can see is they're showing the "rat" cover for "Ben," which was actually released this way, originally, before they quickly changed its design. Also they are showing photos of the original covers with their original Soul and Tamla logo designs when all the reissues were pressed on Motown label. Could this be the matter? Maybe it's the fact that they are showing three Grover Washington albums? Motown did distribute the label he was on, too. Tony, are you pulling our collective leg? LOL. This could be a case where if you look hard enough, you are bound to find something wrong, however unintentional by the Motown staff at that time. I still don't see anything. | ||
mike s (mike_s) 3-Pundit Username: mike_s Post Number: 59 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 195.93.33.10 |
This ain't fair....there must be different inner sleeves because the one on my Miracles lp doesn't seem to have anything strange..especially to do with the Miracles (Tracks of my tears,easy to trace etc). Help still needed. | ||
Tony B. (tony_b) 1-Arriviste Username: tony_b Post Number: 6 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 212.56.114.168 |
Seek and you shall find! :-) | ||
Wonder B (wonder_b) 6-Zenith Username: wonder_b Post Number: 545 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.251.154.139 |
Juice you are right about Bill Cosby's music LP's... I have 'Disco Bill' and there's some great stuff in there! LOL Especially the funky but hilarious JB parody 'WHAT YA THINK 'BOUT LICKIN' MY CHICKEN' Hahaha!  Wonder B If you mess with the 'fro, you gotta go! | ||
Ron Murphy (ron_murphy) 4-Laureate Username: ron_murphy Post Number: 81 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.42.90.140 |
I checked out the inner sleeve of this reissue series and other than a few of them being out of order on the sleeve with regard to the reissue record number I don't see anything else unusual | ||
mike s (mike_s) 3-Pundit Username: mike_s Post Number: 63 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 195.93.33.10 |
C'mon Tony. Stop dropping hints because there doesn't seem to be anything untoward on the sleeves I have got. Pleease!! | ||
Tony B. (tony_b) 1-Arriviste Username: tony_b Post Number: 9 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 212.56.114.168 |
To all those with one of the reissues: You had your chance and you blew it! LOL Click here to see a scan of the inner sleeve (250 kilobytes). Now everyone can play the game. | ||
Wonder B (wonder_b) 6-Zenith Username: wonder_b Post Number: 553 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.251.25.145 |
Nice scan (I didn't have the reissues) but I am just like my SD Partners... Can't find the catch...! Wonder B | ||
C.Patrick Dennis (a_place_for_us) 1-Arriviste Username: a_place_for_us Post Number: 4 Registered: 6-2004 Posted From: 68.253.208.48 |
Are you talking about the Supremes and The Tempations album where it says Supremes Join the Temptaions instead of Diana Ross and the......... | ||
Soulaholic (soulaholic) 5-Doyen Username: soulaholic Post Number: 256 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.41.40.105 |
Hey Tony: I'll bite and give it a shot! I don't have the reissues so I am going off of the scan. On the Martha & the Vandellas lp it seems to have ring wear from the LP that was inside of the jacket. It is visable on the scan above them from about 11 to 3 o'clock if you used a face of the clock to chart it. So it appears that they did not have a clean copy of the Martha lp when they shot the sleeve art work. If I am right from what I can see, it appears that Motown had a quality control issue??? IMHO | ||
Tony B. (tony_b) 2-Debutant Username: tony_b Post Number: 13 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 212.56.114.168 |
We have a winner - Soulaholic! Motown not having decent copies of its own albums? Shock horror! LOL I was going to give you this clue soon: Westbound 181. Geddit? :-) There's still time for others to be winners, too. Keep on looking ... | ||
Soulaholic (soulaholic) 5-Doyen Username: soulaholic Post Number: 258 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.41.40.105 |
Okay Tony send the lp that I won!!!!!!!!!! | ||
Tony B. (tony_b) 2-Debutant Username: tony_b Post Number: 14 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 212.56.114.168 |
Soulaholic, click here to collect your prize! | ||
Rodmann (rodmann) 5-Doyen Username: rodmann Post Number: 228 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 12.221.46.59 |
What's Thelma Houston's "Sunshower" LP doing on there? I thought that it was originally released on ABC/Dunhill. Did Motown buy the rights to it? | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 1306 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
Hey Wonder B!! Where did you find that LP??? I used to have it, but it was stolen. I've been trying to find it ever since, with no luck. I like "1,2,3 teeth is all you have left mama. One up top, one bottom front & one on the side. Don't lose what you got mama. 3 from 3, you won't have no ABC. You'll have the letter O engraved on your lips". That was a funny LP. Where can I find it?? I miss that LP! | ||
Phil (phil) 4-Laureate Username: phil Post Number: 96 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 212.129.36.42 |
Juice, I saw one copy on gemm, and another on ebay (ending in 4 days), item 4021282793. | ||
Wonder B (wonder_b) 6-Zenith Username: wonder_b Post Number: 554 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.248.127.206 |
Juice if you don't find it with Phil's pointers, I may have an extra copy somewhere (just need to find it) You're right about this album... When I bought it I didn't really know what to expect, but it is extremely good and funny (of course)... The intro to the track I mentioned in my previous post just keeps bringing tears (of laughter) in my eyes!!! Wonder B If you mess with the 'fro, you gotta go! | ||
LarsC (the_norwegian) 3-Pundit Username: the_norwegian Post Number: 35 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 80.203.27.167 |
I notice the David Ruffin album also shows ringwear | ||
Tony B. (tony_b) 2-Debutant Username: tony_b Post Number: 17 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 212.56.114.168 |
Westbound 181 is "Wear This Ring (With Love)" by the Detroit Emeralds! ha,ha If you look carefully, you can just make out the wear on "Meet The Temptations." On the other side of the inner sleeve, "The Supremes at The Copa" has quite bad ring wear, making four worn covers altogether. But there's something else clearly visible on the scan ... | ||
P.J. (pj1) 1-Arriviste Username: pj1 Post Number: 10 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.3.123.111 |
The same thing (ringwear) carried over to several Motown cd re-issues in the late 80's. Harry Weinger, however, seems to be meticulous in his search for mint covers for recent re-issues. | ||
Tony B. (tony_b) 2-Debutant Username: tony_b Post Number: 18 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 212.56.114.168 |
BTW, how do you put a smiley face in a message? Whenever I try I get the following: "Error Formatting Error The special character {smiley face} does not exist." where {smiley face} is the smiley face character! LOL | ||
P.J. (pj1) 2-Debutant Username: pj1 Post Number: 11 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.3.123.111 |
Tony B, Do you mean the triangle in the upper left corner (often the sign of a cut-out) on the Isley Brother's lp?. I decided to pull out a few re-issue lp's of the same series and noticed something else that is interesting. Obviously someone complained/pointed these covers out to Motown or perhaps Motown printed them until they found a collector with mint copies- for there are better covers (no ringwear)of the same albums on some of the later?)inner sleeves. For example, Martha & the Vandellas Heatwave is switched from the mono ringwear cover to a stereo sticker cover with no ringwear. Sorry, I do not have access to a scanner, so I am unable to show this. Perhaps somone else who has some of these re-issues can pull out their inner sleeves and verify. | ||
Tony B. (tony_b) 2-Debutant Username: tony_b Post Number: 19 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 212.56.114.168 |
We have another winner - P.J. ! "This Old Heart Of Mine" is a cut-out! LOL The stereo "Heatwave" cover on the blue-tinted inner sleeves looks like a reissue, as the Gordy logo is blanked out. I think "This Old Heart Of Mine" is the same cut-out copy, but with the missing triangle filled in! :-) | ||
Ritchie (ritchie) 4-Laureate Username: ritchie Post Number: 120 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 62.254.0.32 |
Nobody notice the logo on the Little Stevie album, bottom-left...? | ||
P.J. (pj1) 2-Debutant Username: pj1 Post Number: 12 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 69.72.14.86 |
The Tamla Motown logo is also found on another lp pictured. Ritchie, Do you know which one? | ||
Ritchie (ritchie) 4-Laureate Username: ritchie Post Number: 121 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 62.254.0.32 |
I guess you mean Edwin's "War & Peace" on the other side of the sleeve... | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 1316 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
Hey Tony B! To get the smiley face, hit colon then right closed parenthesis. | ||
Wonder B (wonder_b) 6-Zenith Username: wonder_b Post Number: 557 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 80.13.38.10 |
Well they could ask me the next time... all my original LP's are in pristine condition! LOL... Wonder B If you mess with the 'fro, you gotta go! | ||
P.J. (pj1) 2-Debutant Username: pj1 Post Number: 13 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 69.72.15.100 |
Ritchie, Correct as usual. | ||
John Lester (theboyfromxtown) 4-Laureate Username: theboyfromxtown Post Number: 73 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.155.104.188 |
The sad thing was that most people didn't seem to mind...not me though! It's a similar story with the Motown Yesteryear 45 series. I was horrified to hear that collectors' well-loved-and-played original vinyl complete with clicks and hiss. seemed to have been used as masters. In some cases, the (different) album version was used - listen to "Love Is Like An Itching In My Heart" for example. I considered that somebody ought to be answerable for these mess-ups | ||
Tony B. (tony_b) 2-Debutant Username: tony_b Post Number: 21 Registered: 5-2004 Posted From: 212.56.114.168 |
Thanks, Juicefree20 | ||
Uptight (uptight) 4-Laureate Username: uptight Post Number: 89 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.55.0.68 |
Gosh, I had assumed those old Yesteryear 45s were all sourced from original singles masters. Tsk, tsk... btw: Do you guys think it is possible to somehow have album artwork unglued from its cardboard backing to "expand" the artwork and reveal the rest of it? Would it be like a steam process? (Like steam-opening a letter?). In cases where the art extends beyond the edge of the front cover and is flipped back, I always thought it would be interesting to have a more revealing version. | ||
John Lester (theboyfromxtown) 4-Laureate Username: theboyfromxtown Post Number: 76 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.44.166.64 |
Do you mean, like a beatles "butcher" cover type thing. As I get older, I am convinced that it's ALWAYS best to leave packaging on, no matter what, it tends to hide a lot of things that ought not to be seen!! ...know what I mean folks!! lol | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 1330 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
Good afternoon all! Phil: Thanks a lot for the info Tony B: Anytime at all Hey John, I know exactly what you mean. That's why I NEVER wear shorts in public |
