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Richard Felstead (felstead2001) 3-Pundit Username: felstead2001
Post Number: 56 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 128.40.91.183
| Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 10:03 am: �� | ��� |
Can anyone tell me any iside info regarding this awesome slice of Philly. What a fab groove with a wicked guitar riff. Was that you Bobby ?. Been meaning to ask SDF forum about this for ages. Thanks in advance. Rich. www.solarradio.com The Home Of Soul |
Manny (manny) 5-Doyen Username: manny
Post Number: 198 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.124.51.6
| Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 10:18 am: �� | ��� |
Hi, Rich and all! Very, very good mid-tempo. Philly soul in the vocal group field at the best. Great tenor and bass voices. I discovered it in a 14 LP's PIR compilation by Streetsounds (UK) and little after I bought the CD two albums in one: "Past, Present And The Futures" / "Greetings Of Peace" on Repertoire record's "That's Philly Sound" serie. Ain't Got Time For nothing" belongs to the first album mentioned and is one of my fave compositions by the tandem Jefferson-Simmons. Is sad that The Fuures don't made more albums at PIR. The little i knows of their material on Buddah (the "Castles In The Sky" album) not admit comparison with their Philly sides. (Greetings of) Peace & Soul Food! |
Soul-Brother (soulbrother)
4-Laureate Username: soulbrother
Post Number: 111 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 84.135.152.161
| Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 11:32 am: �� | ��� |
Excellent group Richard, Some info on my webpage http://www.soulcellar.co.uk/Fu turesDiscography.html |
Eli (phillysoulman) 6-Zenith Username: phillysoulman
Post Number: 580 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 70.16.136.205
| Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 11:34 am: �� | ��� |
Hey Richard, Yessir that sure was me on the guitar riff, and thanks for the kudos!! Joe Jefferson was the actual producer of that song, and I always loved it and thought that it deserved more props. |
Wonder B (wonder_b) 6-Zenith Username: wonder_b
Post Number: 532 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 80.11.71.104
| Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 12:12 pm: �� | ��� |
Bobby I didn't know it was you... How many times have I mimicked guitar playing on this one... LOL Looking like Joe Cocker striking chords in the air... Hahahaha Bobby this playing on that song is one of the ultimate riffs! For real! I've been religiously listening to that album for over 25 years! Super giant props to you!!! Soul Brother, excellent page on the Futures!!! Wonder B If you mess with the 'fro, you gotta go! |
Eli (phillysoulman) 6-Zenith Username: phillysoulman
Post Number: 582 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 70.16.136.205
| Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 12:26 pm: �� | ��� |
Geez WB, I t was just one of my non-chalant, absent minded thoughtless riffs, the first one that popped up in my brain that afternoon. It must have been the chicken salad on rye and iced tea that I had for lunch that inspired me. |
mel(andthensome) (mel) 5-Doyen Username: mel
Post Number: 202 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.43.74.91
| Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 12:28 pm: �� | ��� |
Hope you dont mind me putting this question in Richard Bobby/Weldon were either of you involved with the unissued cut of the inst of Eddie Holmans 'eddies my name' thanks Richard mel |
zebop (zebop) 3-Pundit Username: zebop
Post Number: 61 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 149.174.164.24
| Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 1:43 pm: �� | ��� |
I have to get out of lurkerdom for this one. This is one of my favorite songs. Those guitar riffs are great! Great work Mr. Eli. (Message edited by zebop on June 26, 2004) |
Eli (phillysoulman) 6-Zenith Username: phillysoulman
Post Number: 583 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 70.16.136.205
| Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 1:59 pm: �� | ��� |
thanks so much Zebop. |
Wonder B (wonder_b) 6-Zenith Username: wonder_b
Post Number: 534 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.248.47.196
| Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 2:05 pm: �� | ��� |
Damn Bobby... I am instantly switching to your diet... Hey Honey???? Heard what the man said... it's going to be chicken salad and ice tea for me... And don't forget the rye bread for Heaven's sake! Hahaha! Wonder B |
Richard Felstead (felstead2001) 3-Pundit Username: felstead2001
Post Number: 58 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 128.40.91.183
| Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 7:39 am: �� | ��� |
Thanks for your replies everybody. It's just one of those tracks that has gone on to help define the Philly sound hasn't it. Pure class, and an inspired guitar riff Bobby, very catchy indeed. ( wasn't sure that was you, but I kinda had a hunch ) Goes to show I guess, that some of the most memorable work from people can just happen, without trying to force it. Iced Tea you say......... very English drink that ya know !! :-))). We'll have to try you on fish and chips and see what that does !!!!(wink) :-)))))) |
Eli (phillysoulman) 6-Zenith Username: phillysoulman
Post Number: 590 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 70.16.142.243
| Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 11:44 pm: �� | ��� |
Hi Richard, Well actually, I did do some sessions in London after several fish and chips meals and I can safely say that the inspiration was all there, albeit with just a hint of a vinegary after taste and somewhat of a greasy residue on my strings, but..well worth it, I must say. The two pints of bitter top sure didnt hurt either!! (Message edited by phillysoulman on June 27, 2004) |
Nosey (nosey) 4-Laureate Username: nosey
Post Number: 132 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 64.12.116.138
| Posted on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 3:33 pm: �� | ��� |
Help anybody! I haven't been able to find anything on the Futures on the net. What CD "Ain't No Time For Nothin" and "Part Time Party Man" on? |
Manny (manny) 5-Doyen Username: manny
Post Number: 203 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.124.51.70
| Posted on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 3:58 pm: �� | ��� |
Hi, Nosey Both songs belongs to the "Past, Present And The Futures" (PIR, 1978). The two in one CD I refer (this original album plus the "Greetings Of Peace") are from germany label Repertoire Records (REP 4329 - WZ, 1993. I only knows the fax of the distributor: East West Records Gmbh, Hamburg Fax (040) 51 44 09 30. I bought in Barcelona the same year was edited, 1993. Good luck, peace & soul food |
Soul-Brother (soulbrother)
4-Laureate Username: soulbrother
Post Number: 113 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.234.190.99
| Posted on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 4:51 pm: �� | ��� |
Nosey.. if you check my post.. you will see a link.. nothing on the web!???? Does anyone read my posts? |
dvdmike (dvdmike) 4-Laureate Username: dvdmike
Post Number: 159 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.253.199.192
| Posted on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 6:46 pm: �� | ��� |
Joe Jefferson & Charles Simmons produced the session. Don't remember whether the arranger was Jack Faith or John Usry. |
Nosey (nosey) 4-Laureate Username: nosey
Post Number: 133 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 64.12.116.138
| Posted on Monday, June 28, 2004 - 7:17 pm: �� | ��� |
Richard, I was mainly looking in Amazon.com and cdnow.com. and I did a Yahoo search and I kept getting non Futures info. I usually tend not to click on links. I went to the site but what do I do after I get there? Thanks for the heads up. |
mike s (mike_s) 3-Pundit Username: mike_s
Post Number: 61 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 195.93.33.10
| Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 5:48 am: �� | ��� |
Past Present and the Futures was put out with their Greetings of Peace album on UK Westside about 3/4 years ago. The deal with Phil Int finished when Westside closed but you may still get copies on the net |
mike s (mike_s) 3-Pundit Username: mike_s
Post Number: 62 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 195.93.33.10
| Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 5:58 am: �� | ��� |
Castles in the Sky was not one of their best works. Seems to have been a Jimmy Bishop production - with Don Davis and recorded in Detroit at United with Motor City rhythm section and arrangers. Philly's Akines,Bellman, Drayton and Turner (the Formations?) wrote and co-produced most of the songs including a real beauty -Love lives on a Windy Hill. Worth buying for that one alone. |
roger (roger) 4-Laureate Username: roger
Post Number: 116 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.35.87.17
| Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 6:24 am: �� | ��� |
Hello Everyone. The sleeve of my copy of "Castles in the Sky" on U.S. Buddah has "You'd Better Be Certain" listed as a track on the album, but there is no such track on the actual vinyl. I used to have "You'd Better Be Certain" on a U.S. Buddah 45, and I remember it as being a nice mid 70's Modern/N.S. track. Is it actually present on anyone else's copy of this L.P? Roger |
Phil (phil) 4-Laureate Username: phil
Post Number: 93 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 212.129.41.236
| Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 8:02 am: �� | ��� |
Nosey, on gemm, there are many recordings by the Futures, CD's LP's & 45's. On ebay, I saw this one : FUTURES "PAST, PRESENT &..." US ORIG RARE SOUL LP Roger, I have the LP "Castles in the sky", but "You'd better be certain" is not listed. |
Manny (manny) 5-Doyen Username: manny
Post Number: 204 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.124.52.45
| Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 9:32 am: �� | ��� |
Hello to all, soulful friends! My vynil copy of "Castles In The Sky" is Side A: 1-Castles 2-(Love Lives On A) Windy Hill 3-Don't Close The Book 4-Super Love 5-You Better Be Certain (arranged by another Philly family member: Vincent Montana!) Side B: 1-I Had A Dream 2-Every Man Is Good (But God Is The King). (This is my fave song in the whole album) 3-Do Unto Others 4-Love Will Be Around Forever 5-Ninety Days (In the house Of Correction) BDLP 4031 � 1976 Buddah Records Manufactured by Pye International, UK Peace |
roger (roger) 4-Laureate Username: roger
Post Number: 117 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.35.87.17
| Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 10:19 am: �� | ��� |
Hello again everyone. Manny .. is "You Better Be Certain" actually on the vinyl, or is it just listed on the sleeve? Nosey .. Plenty of FUTURES records listed for sale at musicstack.com. http://www.musicstack.com Put "futures" in the "Artist Search" search engine and you should find what you are looking for. Roger |
Manny (manny) 5-Doyen Username: manny
Post Number: 207 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.124.52.101
| Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 11:53 am: �� | ��� |
Hello again, friend Roger. Yes, the tune "You Better Be Certain" is on the vinyl. Peace! |
mike s (mike_s) 3-Pundit Username: mike_s
Post Number: 66 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 195.93.33.10
| Posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - 5:19 am: �� | ��� |
Seems like that track was on the UK release but it isn't listed and it isn't on the vinyl either on the Buddah US release I have. |
Richard Felstead (felstead2001) 3-Pundit Username: felstead2001
Post Number: 59 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 128.40.91.183
| Posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - 6:22 am: �� | ��� |
Great to see that this superb track by this fab group has not been forgotten by many of us. Quality music will always shine through. :-)) |
roger (roger) 4-Laureate Username: roger
Post Number: 122 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.35.87.17
| Posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - 8:04 am: �� | ��� |
Hello again everyone. I've solved the mystery of "You'd Better Be Certain". When I checked my L.P. last night I noticed ( for the first time EVER ) that although the vinyl is the U.S. copy the sleeve is a U.K. one. Presumably there is someone else out there with U.K. vinyl and the U.S. sleeve who is wondering where the mystery track came from and what it is!! Roger |
Nosey (nosey) 4-Laureate Username: nosey
Post Number: 137 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.153.113.238
| Posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - 8:43 am: �� | ��� |
Thanks Roger. |