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  fayette (msshonuff4u) 2-Debutant Username: msshonuff4u Post Number: 13 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 64.12.116.138 |
HERE'S A QUESTION I ALWAYS WANTED TO ASK. IS THERE WAS A FAMOUS SINGER THAT YOU HAD WISHED WROTE THEIR "OWN" AUTOBIOGRAPHY OR MOVIE.THAT HAS PASSED ON. FOR EXAMPLE I WISH DAVID RUFFIN AND FLORENCE BALLARD HAD WROTE THEIR OWN BOOK. | ||
Eli (phillysoulman) 6-Zenith Username: phillysoulman Post Number: 533 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.163.44.246 |
Jackie Wilson Buddy Holly Frankie Lymon Frank Sinatra Billie Holiday Donnie Hathaway Minnie Riperton | ||
Soul Sister (soul_sister) 6-Zenith Username: soul_sister Post Number: 840 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.43.165.220 |
Jackie Wilson Billie Holiday Charlie "Bird" Parker George "Smitty" Smith (The Manhattans, instead of Joe Evans with someone else on heresay only). S.S. | ||
fayette (msshonuff4u) 2-Debutant Username: msshonuff4u Post Number: 14 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 64.12.116.138 |
i always wanted to read david ruffin and florence ballrd's versions of what happened when they were with the tempts and supremes.and sam cooke | ||
~medusa~ (~medusa) 5-Doyen Username: ~medusa Post Number: 209 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 68.252.13.11 |
Tammi Terrell Marvin Gaye Barry White Eddie Kendrick Donny Hathaway Florence Ballard Sam Cooke David E. Ruffin Mahalia Jackson Mary Wells | ||
Chet Finkley (chet_finkley) 1-Arriviste Username: chet_finkley Post Number: 6 Registered: 6-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
JUICEFREE20!!!!! | ||
Eli (phillysoulman) 6-Zenith Username: phillysoulman Post Number: 542 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.236.3.148 |
medusa, Barry White did write an autobiography, and there is a great Sam Cooke book called You send me. | ||
Soul Sister (soul_sister) 6-Zenith Username: soul_sister Post Number: 849 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.43.165.220 |
There is also four deep intense books covering every aspect of Marvin's phyche especially the one written by David Ritz "Divided Soul"!!!! David Ruffin has been pretty well covered too, and it ain't pretty.\ S.S. | ||
~medusa~ (~medusa) 5-Doyen Username: ~medusa Post Number: 212 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 68.79.165.33 |
It's never pretty, when someone else (attempts) to write another persons' Life story. They may add and subtract, to the article/Book. Most of the time the person they write about is no longer alive...and we all know dead folks can't tell tales. It's always best to read articles/Books when it's witten by the person (themselves), about themselves. ...because, if the person didn't wrote it themselves, about themselves, it's a great possibility that it aint so. | ||
Soul Sister (soul_sister) 6-Zenith Username: soul_sister Post Number: 850 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.43.165.220 |
Medusa; That can go both ways, here are two examples: 1. When David Ritz did the book with Etta James, Etta's was very open, honest & forthcoming...hense a great book came out of it telling her whole story. 2. When he did the book with Areatha Franklin, she was hiding & covering up everything that was fact, she only wanted to write a flattering, superficual book about herself, another words the "fake life" not the real one she lived...hense a terrible/boring book because of her whitewashing everything! S.S. | ||
~medusa~ (~medusa) 5-Doyen Username: ~medusa Post Number: 213 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 68.79.165.33 |
I understand that SS, but at least they both had options...and it's OK if Aretha didn't want certain things to be known, that was her choice, as some things are better left unsaid. Etta on the other hand, chose to tell all, and that was her choice also... I'm sure some folks have skeletons/Monsters or whatever they decide to kept in their secret closet...at least they had that option to do so. Actually, I rather hear their music, than read their life stories anyway. | ||
Wonder B (wonder_b) 6-Zenith Username: wonder_b Post Number: 492 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.128.156.235 |
Soul Sister you are right and the same example came to my mind. Aretha's book was boring to death... It's not that I want 'crunchy juicy' details but when you talk autobiography you have to have a certain kind of honesty and respect for the reader. Otherwise better not write anything. I think in that respect 'Q' is a model to be followed like Gladys Knight's autobiography... Wonder B | ||
Soul Sister (soul_sister) 6-Zenith Username: soul_sister Post Number: 851 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.43.165.220 |
OK Medusa; Thats cool, it's all good anyway  ! S.S. | ||
Soul Sister (soul_sister) 6-Zenith Username: soul_sister Post Number: 852 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.43.165.220 |
Hi WonderB; You get the point. What makes a person's life so interesting is that the whole person's human side is shown, warts and all, the good, the bad, the ugly, what all goes into the making & make-up of a singer that sings with such uninhibited soulful passion, and mainly the hard times is what accounts for that, so without the complete story, it's a boring person & boring read. We can love & embrace someone who admittingly shows human frailty & flaws we ALL have. Simple as that, the difference betwween a good read and a boring fake one!! S.S. | ||
~medusa~ (~medusa) 5-Doyen Username: ~medusa Post Number: 215 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 68.252.13.151 |
...BUT from right here on the Forum, when a celebritys' bad side is exposed, look what happens...for example~! R Kelly ~ (his charges with underage girls) Marvin Gaye ~ (his childhood, relationship with his Dad) Aretha ~ (her relationship with her Dad, and someone went as far as to make it sound like her Dad fathered one of her children) Berry Gordy ~ (and his Motown Business) Florence Ballard ~ (how she was on welfare etc.) These Folks were dragged through the mud right here on this SDForum. They're bad sides shouldn't be anyones' business whether it's true or not...the music they make is why we like them in the first place, so why do we have to know what goes on with them and their private lives? They're human just like we are. I don't think you would want everyone to know all about you and yours?...and I"m asking you that out of respect, not to be sarcastic. If I offended you, sorry, just trying to make a point here. See, this is the way I personally feel about it... aint nobodys' business ~~~~~~~~~~~if I do. | ||
Soul Sister (soul_sister) 6-Zenith Username: soul_sister Post Number: 854 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.43.165.220 |
Hi Medusa; I can agree on "it ain't no bodys business if I do". On the other hand if you are a celebrity in the public eye who decides to do a bio then you should be honest or don't do it period. Why dupe the people who are spending their hard earned money to buy your book? No one is asking for dirt when they purchase a book just reality. Write the truth or don't write it at all, just my humble opinion. A good book is hard to put down and a joy to read.A bogus book is a public scam. No disrespect to you either, we all are entitled to our opinions. S.S. | ||
~medusa~ (~medusa) 5-Doyen Username: ~medusa Post Number: 217 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 68.252.13.151 |
Right!!!! (hahahahaha)~~~~ | ||
Soul Sister (soul_sister) 6-Zenith Username: soul_sister Post Number: 856 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.43.165.220 |
medusa; ???????LOL!LOL!! S.S. | ||
fayette (msshonuff4u) 2-Debutant Username: msshonuff4u Post Number: 17 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 205.188.116.13 |
i think pattie labelle's book was good. read aretha and she was somewhat vague,like she kept referring to this mistery man mr mystic, and she wasn't as detailed as pattie,i read the you send me by sam cooke.even though it wasn't written by him,it was still interesting.being a kid when he died i didn't understand how he died that book opened my eyes.but then again i felt like there was something still missing bout his death.(saw bobby womack in a new light too) it mentioned him wear sam's suit to sam's own funeral) | ||
Sudi Kamau (sudi_kamau) 4-Laureate Username: sudi_kamau Post Number: 85 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.117.198.35 |
Celebrities are public figures. Living in a fish bowl comes with the territory. Most of the people mentioned above may have suffered from having their name dragged through the mud but not to the extent that ordinary private citizens do when their foibles are put on public display. The average guy in R. Kelly's shoes would have a much harder time maintaining his income. Ordinary guys do find themselves in R. Kelly's shoes, if only in their home towns. I tend not to have much sympathy for them, and I don't have much sympathy for R. Kelly. Still and all, A celebrity would be a fool not to try to protect some sense of privacy, and I'm glad when they are able to do so. I'm generally on the side of those who beat up intrusive camera men and break their cameras - I don't subscribe to the press's sacred right to pry and distort. However, my bowels of compassion don't necessarilly bleed when people who opt for the public life find out first-hand what public life is all about. To me, a celebrity's book is like the rest of the celebrity's work product. It either provides utility or it doesn't. If the attempt to maintain privacy or manage image results in an insipid hagiography, it's a bad book. If daring self-disclosure results in an insightful spell-binding account, it's a good book. Each consumer makes that determination individually, and if enough consumers find it worth buying, the producer makes money. I would have found a Billy Eckstein autobiography intresting. (Message edited by Sudi Kamau on June 22, 2004) | ||
Livonia Ken (livonia_ken) 3-Pundit Username: livonia_ken Post Number: 40 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 136.1.1.154 |
A Curtis Mayfield book that was either an autobiography or even just a book about the music business would have been great. Besides being a consummate artist, he managed to avoid a lot of the business pitfalls and retain ownership of the vast majority of his own material through his life and career. Regards, Ken | ||
fayette (msshonuff4u) 2-Debutant Username: msshonuff4u Post Number: 18 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 205.188.116.13 |
i have to admit the best book that i have read by a celebrity is angel on my shoulder by natalie cole. not only did it show her sense of humor, but it was a clear lesson on how(not only a celebrity) can hit rock bottom and still arise. it showed how candid she can be about herself. if i had a chose between somebody else writing a false unrealistic book about me. i think i's rather do it in order for the public to see the human side of me and not something somebody else created | ||
Destruction (destruction) 4-Laureate Username: destruction Post Number: 92 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 199.173.225.24 |
SoulSis, I don't think you could've come up with 2 better examples to make your point. BTW, I'm on page 177 of Faith In Time...and one of my coworkers keeps bugging me about finishing so he can read it. | ||
Soul Sister (soul_sister) 6-Zenith Username: soul_sister Post Number: 860 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.43.165.220 |
Hey Destruction; Thanks for the acknowledgement in making my case. RE: "Faith In Time" Keep in mind Jimmy's bio was finished 3&1/2 years ago so alot has changed since that time, mostly for the better I might add. Enjoy!! My best, S.S. |
