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Kev-Lo (7273747576) 5-Doyen Username: 7273747576
Post Number: 240 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 4.236.117.135
| | Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 5:27 am: |   |
Hi this is Kev-Lo here are two of chicago's finest soul icons.Can we compare them to each other or are they simply in a class by themselves. JERRY(the ice man)BUTLER was so smooth and he had a grat voice.Although born in Sunflower Mississippi on December 8,1939.He was three years old when his family moved to Chicago.Jerry was introduced to music in church with The Northen Jubidee gospel singers in his early teens.He would meet Curtis Mayfield,the two then joined Sam Gooden and Arthur Brooks and form the Impressions.Their first recording FOR YOUR PRECIOUS LOVE which became a huge hit.Jerry also did other great recordings for Vee-Jay records.Ofcourse in the mid to late 60's Jerry scored big with all of his great Philly soul recordings and the rest is history. GENE(the duke of earl)CHANDLER busted out with his No:1 song DUKE OF EARL which shot to the top of the rhythm and blues and pop charts in 1962.It sold more than a million copies and made him a star.In 1964 he invaded the soul era and belted out tunes like JUST BE TRUE,WHAT NOW,THE GIRL DON'T CARE and I FOOLED YOU THIS TIME.In 1965 his live version of RAINBOW 65 had the ladies screaming at the Regal.Also in 1965 he had NOTHING CAN STOP ME and the spin off GOOD TIMES In the late 60's he did some fine duet tunes with the late Barbara Atkins.And in 1970 he did GROOVE SITUATION.YES Gene Chandler is definitely another fine soul legend and one of the greatest of all time.I'm so glad that I got to meet him in July at the Soul Patrol Convention,he still looks great. |
 
DyvaNaye (westside314) 6-Zenith Username: westside314
Post Number: 920 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 205.188.116.138
| | Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 5:49 am: |   |
Kevin, you were a good friend until this moment. LOL. Both of these gentlemen are in a class by themselves. And, as you know, hanging with the DyvaNaye and Jerry Butler on the speakers in the car can cause an increase in speed. LOL. |
 
Shawn1 (shawn1b) 4-Laureate Username: shawn1b
Post Number: 169 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.30.13.211
| | Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 7:17 am: |   |
Don't forget about Gene's big 80's Comeback "Rainbows".I think both are in a leauge of their owne and really can't be compared .Shawn |
 
mel(andthensome) (mel) 6-Zenith Username: mel
Post Number: 876 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.154.133.46
| | Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 7:30 am: |   |
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mel(andthensome) (mel) 6-Zenith Username: mel
Post Number: 877 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.154.133.46
| | Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 7:31 am: |   |
sorry thats Curtis........ |
 
DyvaNaye (westside314) 6-Zenith Username: westside314
Post Number: 922 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 205.188.116.138
| | Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 7:44 am: |   |
That's ok Mel....ROOTS is my favorite Curtis album cover. I played him to DEATH all this week. Certain friends of mine know that I am a Curtis Mayfield fanatic. ' This Must End is the killer ballad of all...ok probably one of my top 3 ballads by him and the Impressions. Now back to GC and JB... |
 
mel(andthensome) (mel) 6-Zenith Username: mel
Post Number: 878 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.154.133.46
| | Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 8:23 am: |   |
the very first 45 I ever bought way back circa' 1970 moody-mel |
 
mel(andthensome) (mel) 6-Zenith Username: mel
Post Number: 879 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.154.133.46
| | Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 9:39 am: |   |
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mel(andthensome) (mel) 6-Zenith Username: mel
Post Number: 880 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.154.133.46
| | Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 9:46 am: |   |
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DyvaNaye (westside314) 6-Zenith Username: westside314
Post Number: 925 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 205.188.116.138
| | Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 9:53 am: |   |
Nice Mel! |
 
~medusa~ (~medusa) 6-Zenith Username: ~medusa
Post Number: 728 Registered: 3-2004 Posted From: 68.79.115.137
| | Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 2:24 pm: |   |
I believe at one time Jerry Butler & Gene Chandler were members of the Impressions...so there's no comparison, they're both Great SIngers. To Be honest, I don't like competition between singers and musicians. They all were/are Genuine, in their own right. (maybe some of their style of song), but not the Artist themselves. |
 
zebop (zebop) 4-Laureate Username: zebop
Post Number: 135 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 205.188.116.138
| | Posted on Sunday, September 19, 2004 - 3:25 pm: |   |
I finally heard that album Gene Chandler did with Jerry Butler when they were both label mates on Mercury, it's called "Gene and Jerry" on Mercury. In fact someone's selling a sealed 8 track of it on Ebay--like that's going to play...LOL. |
 
mel(andthensome) (mel) 6-Zenith Username: mel
Post Number: 894 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.152.20.84
| | Posted on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 2:39 am: |   |
All the various members who-ever are the real-deal......... was the first issue of 'moody woma ' released for the December record logo? appreciate details if poss. cheers mel |
 
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20
Post Number: 2421 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162
| | Posted on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 4:12 am: |   |
Good afternoon. It's funny that you should mention Gene & Jerry. Last night, they appeared at The Big Show at The Beacon Theatre, here in New York. I got to meet Billy & Billy is one quiet, mellow guy. Gene made his appearance by coming down the aisle. First he was announced & then you heard "Duke, Duke, Duke" come through the speakers. For about two minutes, we looked around waiting for Gene to appear. The crowd was blowing whistles & you could hear the buzz of anticipation. Again, we heard "Duke, Duke, Duke" & looked around again, waiting for Gene. By this time, the crowd was about to go nuts in anticipation. Suddenly, through the aisle came Gene, wearing his cape & walking stick & singing. Needless to say, the buzz turned into an explosion of applause! Gene was in great voice. He totally shocked me by singing one hell of a version of I Only Have Eyes For You. Gene tore it up & gave a performance that would have made The Flamingos proud. Gene went into Rainbow & got totally buck wild! The ladies definitely appreciated his performance & I was laughing my head off. Gene looked like he had no plans to leave that stage & he gave a vintage performance! I hadn't seen him perform in years & I'm telling you that he was great! When Jerry Butler was announced, he strode out calmly & slowly, exactly what you'd expect from a man as cool as The Iceman. Again, the crowd was loving Jerry & it amazes me when I consider that his first hit came 2 years before I was born, yet, the man still sounds great! Jerry was holding down some notes!! I was drinking a Pepsi & eating a frank when Jerry hit one note. By the time I finished my frank, it seemed as if Jerry was still holding that note & my soda had gotten warm He also had one of his backing singers sing. I didn't catch her name, but that young lady can blow. I only taped a little of her performance, as I had to charge my cheapo Sony battery....thanks again Sony for being so damn cheap! She sang a version of My Funny Valentine that was excellent! She is quite pretty & that voice....WHEW!! The girl can sing! I look forward to hearing more from her. I'm going to track down her name, trust me, she is GOOD! Jerry closed his set with a typically amazing rendition of Your Precious Love & he still hits & holds those notes & his voice is still smooth & powerful. I have to tell you, it was a great night to be a Soul music fan & it was one hell of a show  |
 
Don (don) 6-Zenith Username: don
Post Number: 902 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.78.27.224
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 - 1:07 am: |   |
I think this thread should have been called Jerry Butler vs. Lou Rawls, my vote is for The Iceman!! I really like Gene Chandler records. |
 
Reese (reese) 5-Doyen Username: reese
Post Number: 189 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 204.152.12.209
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 - 2:19 am: |   |
Juicefree, Teresa Griffin is the young lady who sang backup for Jerry, and who also did a great job on MY FUNNY VALENTINE. I caught them earlier this year, and had a great time. A few years back, when Diana Ross appeared on Oprah, she had a local Chicago choir sing with her on one song. Teresa was a part of the choir. At one point, Diana gave Teresa the mike, and let her sing the song to conclusion. (Message edited by Reese on September 20, 2004) |
 
Lady Mystique (ladymystique)
6-Zenith Username: ladymystique
Post Number: 692 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 216.37.254.198
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 - 9:30 am: |   |
Don't know much about Gene Chandler, but I love when Jerry takes the stage...the way he just stands there and delivers the song! I saw him perform FOR YOUR PRECIOUS LOVE on ONLY THE STRONG SURVIVES DVD and I was mezmerized! |
 
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20
Post Number: 2440 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2004 - 9:37 am: |   |
Reese, Thank you very much for the info! That young lady can really sing! I look forward to hearing more from her, she should be a star! |
 
Nosey (nosey) 5-Doyen Username: nosey
Post Number: 275 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 66.153.113.238
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 12:27 am: |   |
Local Philly DJ, Georgie Woods (the guy with the goods) gave Jerry Butler the name the "Iceman" cause he was sooo cool. |
 
Soul Sister (soul_sister) 6-Zenith Username: soul_sister
Post Number: 1756 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.43.145.122
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 1:13 am: |   |
No comparisons, like my esteemed friend Kev_Go (Goins) said on the 'Jackie Vs. James' thread, it's like comparing apples with oranges. Both, the "Iceman" who is very reserved on stage and the "Duke" who's very flamboyant on stage, both have good voices of different styles. I like both on different songs. Here's a photo I took of the "Iceman" backstage at the Apollo in 1970:
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Don (don) 6-Zenith Username: don
Post Number: 919 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 68.75.176.1
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 5:33 pm: |   |
That's a great pic Sis. I dig Mr. Butler's sportscoat, ya know. |
 
Soul Sister (soul_sister) 6-Zenith Username: soul_sister
Post Number: 1759 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.43.145.122
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 10:38 pm: |   |
Hey Don; Your Welcome! S.S. |
 
Manny (manny) 6-Zenith Username: manny
Post Number: 454 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 217.124.51.68
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 11:09 pm: |   |
Hello Icemens and Firewomens! (smile!) Jerry Butler is a great and very unique vocalist wich I likes equally all his material whatever the label was recorded in (Vee Jay, Mercury, Fontana, Motown, PIR, Ichiban) or whatever the decade, 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's. I don't compares with Gene Chandler, very different. And not compares with Lou Rawls, more jazzy, also totally different, IMHO. I can't compare the voice of Jerry with another, he got a blend of bass-tenor register and can sing in a Elvis Presley or Tom Jones mould in a same verse of a same song. He is a beatiful blend of deep soul ("Devil In Ms. Jones") and sophistication ("Angel Face"), appart from his aditional talent as songwriter and talent-scouting. Some songs by Jerry make me feel emotionally every time i heard it as: "Tell My Girl"; "This Is Your Life"; "I'm Telling You"; "Mr. Dream Merchant"; "Best Love I Ever Had"; "Only Pretty Girls"; "Western Union Man (Send A Telegram)"; "Everyday Affair" (with Dee Dee Sharp); ... Peace & Soul Food |
 
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20
Post Number: 2454 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162
| | Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 7:09 am: |   |
Good Evening, Just wanted to post a few shots of The Iceman at "The Big Show" at The Beacon Theatre, on Sat Sept 18th.
STILL SMOOTH AFTER ALL OF THESE YEARS!!!! |
 
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20
Post Number: 2455 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162
| | Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 8:16 am: |   |
And here's a couple of shots of the lovely Teresa Griffin:
This young lady is simply PHENOMENAL!!!! Her rendition of My Funny Valentine was excellent!! This young lady should be HUGE!!! Her talent certainly is! |
 
Kev-Lo (7273747576) 5-Doyen Username: 7273747576
Post Number: 244 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 4.236.201.34
| | Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 9:09 am: |   |
hi this is Kev-Lo hey Juice what's happening nice pictures man.How did Gene chandler do on that show |
 
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20
Post Number: 2458 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162
| | Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 9:31 am: |   |
What's up Kev-Lo! Thanks for the kind words! Gene was excellent! He surprised me with a great version of I Only Have Eyes For You. He shocked me when he sang that one, as he had so many hits of his own to choose from. I'm telling you that Gene looked as though he had no plans to leave the stage. As soon as I can pull some pictures from the video, I'll post a few of them, most likely before 10 tonight. I'll tell you this, Gene got the attention of ALL the ladies & I almost rolled out of the balcony laughing at Genes' antics. He gave a great performance. I can't stress enough that everyone got their moneys worth last Saturday night! |
 
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20
Post Number: 2459 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162
| | Posted on Thursday, September 23, 2004 - 11:14 am: |   |
Kev-Lo, As promised is The Duke as he walks through the aisle:
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Morgan (leeway) 3-Pundit Username: leeway
Post Number: 68 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 209.104.139.161
| | Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 4:25 am: |   |
I picked up a "Best of Gene Chandler" cd after reading this thread, yesterday. I haven't listened it to it yet, I will do so tonight. |
 
Morgan (leeway) 3-Pundit Username: leeway
Post Number: 69 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 209.104.139.161
| | Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 4:26 am: |   |
I picked up a "Best of Gene Chandler" cd after reading this thread, yesterday. I haven't listened it to it yet, I will do so tonight. The only song I knew by Gene was Duke of Earl. |
 
Davie Gordon (davie_gordon) 5-Doyen Username: davie_gordon
Post Number: 237 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 81.157.119.22
| | Posted on Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 10:30 am: |   |
Mel, "was the first issue of 'moody woma ' released for the December record logo? " Definitely not - Jerry was tied up contractually with Mercury throughout few brief months that the December label existed. Where did you hear that ? Davie |
 
Mark Speck (mark_speck) 5-Doyen Username: mark_speck
Post Number: 222 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 63.188.137.0
| | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 12:08 pm: |   |
I have to concur with most of the people posting here...there's really no comparing these two gents, both equally fine talents. Jerry's "Philly Sessions" CD is in my desk at work. It's getting played on a regular basis. Gene had nothing to do with the Impressions. He was one of the Du-Kays, who hit with "Nite Owl". Best, Mark |
 
Destruction (destruction)
6-Zenith Username: destruction
Post Number: 436 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 69.139.236.125
| | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 12:23 pm: |   |
The second time I heard "For Your Precious Love" on the radio. I was listening to the lyrics and thinking that this guy must be an Opera trained singer along the lines of Paul Roberson. I had never heard a voice like that, so deep...yet with so much range and emotion and so Articulate. I also remember the first time I heard Hey Western Union Man, I thought it was "beneath" him... The Duke of Earl is the first song I associated with the concept of "COOL". It was like getting your first clue. I was young....what did I know? |
 
Tenyu (tenyu) 1-Arriviste Username: tenyu
Post Number: 3 Registered: 9-2004 Posted From: 69.201.129.151
| | Posted on Monday, September 27, 2004 - 4:09 pm: |   |
Everybody is Waiting : Ten and Two (Take This Woman off the Corner) I bought their duo Lp today as well. Just in case someone here doesn't have it I posted my two favorite cuts off it. Can someone show me the correct html to post pictures here? Thanks! peace! |