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Wonder B (wonder_b)
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P-Funk live in Montreux 2004 ! 2 hours ! Super geat show featuring Micheal Franti ! I hope they gonna put this one on DVD !

This is the link:

http://real.bluewin.ch/ramgen/ montreuxjazz04/Clinton_h.rm


Wonder B

(Message edited by Wonder_B on September 11, 2004)
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Don (don)
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The highlight for me was seeing Billy Bass Nelson on bass. The last time I seen him play was with Ruth Copeland at McCormick Place in 71 with the original Funkadelics with Bernie on keys, Eddie Hazel on guitar, and Tiki fulwood on drums. Sly & The Family Stone who?
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Rich (richk)
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Don, does anything about the Ruth Copeland show stand-out in your memory? First show I saw was in '79 (Motor Booty) long after the OGs. Yet on wax, the OG period is my favorite.
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Don (don)
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Wonder B, I check out the clip. Maybe I didn't state my meaning correctly. For me the highlight for me was seeing "Billy Bass" Nelson. The first and last time I seen Billy play was in 71 with Funkadelic backing Ruth Copeland. And he still got it, I woulda like to hear him play some live, raw and unadultrated F stuff!

Rich, just seeing a whyte soul singer of her magnitude just belt the songs out like that was awesome enough for me. And being backed up by one of the greatest funk/rock bands of Funkadelic. It's been a long time Rich, I think Ruth did an lp's worth of her first lp, I knew they performed as Sly's opening act but did an lengthy set. Yes, before I knew who was Ruth's backing band we're she announced "Ladies and Gentlemen let's hear it for FUNKADELIC!", and the crowd went ballistic! The applause and roar was so strong nothing that I ever heard before, I mean, it was like Chi was having an earthquake. I have OG FUNK/OUT of THE DARK on CD. I heard it's been re-released again with 2 or 3 new songs, that's all well and good but I'm happy with the 9 songs that are on the CD, which is still enough for me- MISERY.
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Wonder B (wonder_b)
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Post Number: 699
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 7:29 am: ��Edit PostDelete Post���Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes Don... I have seen Billy Bass rock the house only not at the time you mention... It must have been great... I have the same CD as you and I love it although I am not usually a great fan of Bill Laswell's productions.

Wonder B
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Don (don)
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Nice hearing from you again Wonder B.
The first time got wind of The Black Arc series was from Bootsy Collins' Blaster Of The Universe CD. Inside was another inner sleeve of CD's that Bill Laswell was producing or co-produced. I figure I needed some (new) funk to listen to for a change. I got all except for Jerome Brailey's Mutiny / Afershock 2005, a friend burned for me to have.

I admit I heard alot of Bigfoot's records and I didn't understand them when they all we're first released. Now I get it. Before I was hearing alot of music and my ears must have been somewhere else. Bigfoot's Aftershock 2005 is a masterpiece and a solid CD that can hold it's own against any funk that was being released at the time.

I don't have a favorite I like them all. On J's CD I fully realise that he is certainly a talent songwriter. I'm getting back to listening to all the lp's he released earlier before. A lyric that had a profound effect of a meaning that said
"My love goes in the dark/ev'ry time that we're a-part". Think Hazel plays on the track.

Bill Laswell sometimes his production makes no sense to me at all. He experiements with ambient sounds to much for my taste. I know the best record he's ever produced and/or put together for my liking was Axiom Funk: Funkcronomicon. Somebody sent me a Maxi CD of The Last Poets "Black And Strong (Homesick)" when I ordered
Slave Master/Under The Six, free for no charge.
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Wonder B (wonder_b)
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AGain YES Don... Funkchronomicon is arguably the best Laswell prod...
Bootsy's version of Jimi Hendrix's IF 6 WAS 9 just sends shivers down my spine everytime I spin it (pun intended!) Usually I am not so fond of cover versions but this one holds it's ground.

Wonder B
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Destruction (destruction)
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Speaking of Billy Bass, I really liked some of his work with Parlet on their first (only?) album, though I really didn't care much for the singers.
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Wonder B (wonder_b)
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Parlet did three albums, Pleasure Principle, Invasion of The Booty Snatchers, and Play Me Or Trade Me (their best IMHO).
Billy Bass who is responsible for finding the name of his band (Funkadelic) has indeed done some stellar work within P-Funk and it's spin off productions...

Wonder B
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Don (don)
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Not to take sides but Parlet can sang except during their heyday the girl weren't given the right material and wasn't given a boost of support by the Clinton camp. It would've been grand if they had not only funk, but mixed with some r&b dance songs with a dash of some soulful ballads. I got a chance to see them in person at The Funk Festivals in the mid 70's, and gotten a last opportunity to see Parlet on gigs on their own. I thought the girls had the best backing band around. A few musicians that come to mind are Jerome Ali & Gordon Colton on guitar, Kenny Colton on drums, Jimmie Ali on bass & Maanon Saulsby on keys & syn- The Parlet Band! My favorite lp P-Funk cover is "Play Me Or Trade Me" by Stozo.
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Don (don)
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Chi Drummer (chidrummer)
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This board is unbelievable!!:-)

I love the Axiom Funk CD and Aftershock 2005 is some of the best Bigfoot stuff around. Under The Influence is...well Da Bomb! To me, the best stuff since Hardcore Jollies.
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Don (don)
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About 4 yrs ago I downtown and I was at The Dupaul University's music store the Crow's Nest or Tower Records down the street from Rosavelt College and I had a few bucks. I didn't know this until 3 yrs ago that I passed on a Love Machine CD. Come to find out it was a band that Billy Bass was with after he split from FUNKADELIC. They made about 2 lp's i think? The first lp had the lineup of The original FUNKADELIC lineup, I'm not sure if Bernie Worrell or Tawl Ross was on it or not? Anyway, you all know what I must have felt. It should be a hard sought after CD now! I had no idea of the lp's but I seen it on CD though.

This must be the same CD that my buddy John must of been talkin' about when I spoke with him. From my understanding it's not that good and it's somewhere in the same vein as a Chamber Brothers record. I don't know cause I'd have to hear it for myself, when I get a chance to talk with him next month I'll get him to burn me a copy.

I think any lineup of Parlet is awright by me but no one can leave out The Queen of Funk Mallia Franklin. I was never disappointed with the ladies vocal abilities, just the sad sack lack of material provided. The Ladies do have some memorable moments on record. Although I was lucky enough to see them live. I never had the first 2 albums, I do have Parlet's Play Me Or Trade Me.

Bill laswell is a good producer and all. But he doesn't make mega selling compliations, nor does he make radio friendly records he makes records that satisfy his creativity. All that is well and fine, but Laswell has got to get outta the experimental sci-fi, dj/scratchin/mix remix, hip-hop, reggae and world music kick. And get back to doing what he knows how to do. I logged into his now defunct website and I didn't believe all the tons & tons & tons overload of CD's he's been recording over the last 2 decades?

I think if him and producer/musician Rick Ruben we're to get it together, both men would be a smash-I really do

Tales Of Kid Funkadelic, Clones Of Dr. Funkenstein
and Hardcore Jollies was some interesting stuff? At least that's the order how it was released at the stores. Original order was Clones.../Tales Of Kid...and Hardcore. O wow! Case and point nineteen-seventy six was a good year for all 3 releases.

Don't stop now fellas keep posting!!!!
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Wonder B (wonder_b)
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Love Machine??????? Isn't that the all female group from the 70's?? If this is the case it is disco music at best... I must have an LP by them which I bought on the merits of the beautiful figures on the front cover! LOL
Can't remember of any other band by that name...

You summed it up alright Don with your line 'experimental sci-fi, dj/scratchin/mix remix, hip-hop, reggae and world music' about Bill Laswell...
That's why there's much more stuff that I do not like from him than stuff I dig.
His Material stuff (I'm THe One) was pretty good in the early days, but since...

Wonder B
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Rich (richk)
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Whether we fully appreciate Laswell's ambient style or not, he opened up his studio/label to a lot of mob members from '90-'95, without which I'm not sure that we'd have albums like Out of the Dark, Aftershock 2005, Blacktronic Science, Funk of Ages, The Other Side, Funkcronomicon, Giant Shirley, Jungle Bass, For All the Kings' Men, Third Power.

RE: Funkcronomicon - just for fun, I once burned the cuts onto 1 CDR that weren't released elsewhere, beginning with disc 2, and found what I thought was an even better CD: Hideous Mutant Freekz / Trumpets & Violins / Jungle-Free Bass / Blackout / Under the Influence / If 6 Was 9 / Orbitron Attack / Free-Bass / Pray My Soul

I really enjoy most of the first Parlet album. The bass playing by Skeet Curtis (title cut) & Billy Bass Nelson (cookie jar, love amnesia & others) is the musical highlight for me. Mallia's vocals on "Misunderstanding" are outstanding. The musicality of the 2nd LP is a bit thin. "Help From My Friends" & "Wolf Tix", from the Play Me or Trade Me album are favorites.

Mothership Connection, The Clones of Dr Funkenstein, Tales of Kidd Funkadelic, Hardcore Jollies, Stretchin Out & Ahh the Name is Bootsy were all released within 13 months of one another (12/75-1/77).
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Don (don)
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Hey Wonder B, what's up with Marcel man. I tried to get into the forum. Before the computer mess up happened I was trying to get a pass, all he wanted to talk about was something else? I wonder how come he doesn't have an open forum like here. Wonder B, the reason why I left SP 4 yrs ago was because they closed their forum, it was made & designed like SD where we all can make up our own threads and enter act with one another. All I know is then they shut it down, I don't know what their doing now. Don't get me wrong SP is straight
and have members of all walks of music and then some, tho I was surprised at the many members from
the doowop & soul community of the lost & forgotten vocal group in particular, are the same folks we speak about here.

Don
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Wonder B (wonder_b)
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Yes Don
marcel does have a forum on his website too but it isn't very active... I registred there too but it hardly moves LOL ON the other hand his sales dept. is growing bigger and bigger. You can catch there many CD's you cannot find anywhere else particularly those from bands like Slapbak, Funk-Kin or solo stuff from members of PFAS.

I liked the way it was on SP when it was still on. When the rules changed, I didn't stay. I know it is still working somehow since they had this big SP convention this summer and because I still receive their digest email with lots of info once in a while.

BUt since I found SD I cannot say I have ever seen such a wealth of knowledge compiled on one website. Just amazing.!!!

Wonder B
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Don (don)
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Steve what Bill did was great. Your right if it wasn't for him we wouldn't hear alot of great recordings. I'm not putting him down but some of us can't always make that trip with him at times, if not all the time. I hear a Japan release of Miles Davis' 'On The Corner' and another comp by Miles that Comlumbia still refuses to release from the vaults. It was a nice but I didn't get it.

Some people I spoke with (in a good way) says he's a mad genius. I still give him his props.
I can cipher thru some compliations. I dug Big Shirey, Blacktronic Science and Third Power, and the first two PRAXIS.

The cat's got more CD's than any Gospel, Blues, Jazz, Rock, Soul, R&B, Funk, Rap & etc combined. I mean he's got so many recordings that he'd need 21-33 vaults which to store them in, really. When I surfed his site a few yrs ago recall me that I seen 5% of his products was in shops, like in alot of underground/alternative and in alot of popular record chains I frequent.

I'm hip to Bill Laswell, and alot of it I still hear on alot of college stations on the left hand side of the dial. I think Axiom Funk's: Funkcronomicon was the best he's ever done up until that time. Steve? Praxis & Blacktronic was cool...yeah.

Stevie, the same CD 2 i know about because I heard it too. And I know it is not in order like the finished product that's in stores. I have The Best Of Parlet and I'm quite satisfied here and it does have some musical moments I might add. Billy is the man alright. I always thought Rodney "Skeet" Curtis & Dennis Chambers was and was by far the baddest rhythm section PFA's ever had, in my book.

Yeah Stevie, that was the order I remember of PARLIAFUNKADELICMENT & THE RUBBER BAND when their releases came out.

DON
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DenvrMotownLvr (john)
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I remember seeing somewhere a publicity photo of George Clinton and his group from the sixties. In the picture they are all clean shaven and their "doo's" are immaculate. (Fried, Dyed and Laid to the side!)

There were 2 or 3 other people with him and they are all wearing suits contemporary for the time with the small lapels and skinny ties. I seem to remember the caption for the photo explaining that this was what they looked like at the time they auditioned for Motown.

Has anyone else seen this photo? For the life of me I can't remember where I saw it.
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Don (don)
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DenvnMotownLvr, the photo your thinking about was in a music paperback booklet where the guys are doing some dance routines at an outdoor show? Where they wore Navy Blue Blazer sportcoats with Navy Blue Ties with white shirts, pants, socks and shoes I recall.
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LarsC (the_norwegian)
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DenvrMotownLvr, you mean like this ? :

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count (the_count)
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Chi Drummer (chidrummer)
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Finally got around to watching the show. P-Funk on the Web, don't we live in interesting times?

It was fun to see some of the old vets still there. Missed Garry Shider though. Two stand outs from the new crew, Lilly Haden on violin and Kendra Foster on vocals. I thought the horn players were a bit sloppy with their lines, especally the older ones. The rap by Clinton's grandaughter(?!!) was well done. Frank was running a little slow, but very solid. Overall I liked the show, especally how they flowed from one song to another. In the end I still got my Funk uncut!
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Don (don)
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The only members I reconize of George Clinton Parliament Funkadelic

George Clinton - Vocals
Guitars - Michael "Kidd Funkadelic" Hampton, Dewayne "Blackbyrd" McKnight & Citrus.
Bass - "Billy Bass" Nelson & RonKat.
Drums - Frankie "Kash" Waddy & Rico Lewis.
Keyboards - Bernie Worrell, ?, ?.
Percussions - ?
Horns - Greg Thomas & Bennie Cowan.
Violin - Lilly Hayden.
Vocals - Michael "Clip" Payne, Steve Boyd, Greg Thomas, RonKat, Belita Woods, Robert "P-Nut" Johnson, Kim Manning, Kendra Foster, Lilly Hayden, Rico Lewis & Ron Dunbar?
Rapper - Sativa Clinton.
Dancer - Carlos "Sir Nose" McMurray.
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Don (don)
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