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ALJAYDU (aljaydu)
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Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 11:45 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've posted here a lot before and has gained a significant amount of knowledge about the music industry a whole. I'm in need right now and do hope that I can be steered in the right direction. I'm looking for a sample recording contract. I'm very interested in the music industry and the very first thing that I need to do is READ! Read everything and almost anything that comes my way.
If I can get any help in this matter...MUCH appreciated.
Thanks
Aljaydu/Creole
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phil hurtt (phillyfossil)
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Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 11:57 am: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ajayde,
Try harryfoxagency.com, they have sevral free downloads.
Much Success.
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ALJAYDU (aljaydu)
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Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 12:46 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I should've stated where I've been first:
http://www.bmi.com/

http://harryfox.com/public/ind ex.jsp
(Thanx for da tip, Phil!!!!!!!)

http://entertainment.howstuffw orks.com/music-royalties.htm/p rintable

http://entertainment.howstuffw orks.com/recording-contract.ht m/printable


www.ASCAP.com

Once again, thanks, Phil.

Anybody else?

I want to gain knowledge and I want to teach others about the music business.

Here's a sample of some of the info that I've gathered:
"Multiplatinum artists like TLC ("Ain't 2 Proud 2 Beg," "Waterfalls") and Toni Braxton ("Unbreak My Heart" and "Breathe Again") have been forced to declare bankruptcy because their recording contracts didn't pay them enough to survive.

"Corrupt recording agreements forced the heirs of Jimi Hendrix ("Purple Haze," "All Along the Watchtower" and "Stone Free") to work menial jobs while his catalog generated millions of dollars each year for Universal Music.

"Florence Ballard from the Supremes ("Where Did Our Love Go," "Stop in the Name of Love" and "You Keep Me Hangin' On" are just 3 of the 10 #1 hits she sang on) was on welfare when she died.

"Collective Soul earned almost no money from "Shine," one of the biggest alternative rock hits of the 90s when Atlantic paid almost all of their royalties to an outside production company.

"Country music legend Merle Haggard enjoyed a string of 37 top-ten country singles (including 23 #1 hits). Yet he never received a record royalty check until last year when he released an album on the indie punk-rock label Epitaph."


That's one of the reasons as to why I'm trying to find a sample contract (my own understanding and for their sakes, also).
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Eli (phillysoulman)
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Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 3:15 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ALJADYU,

Recording contracts are negotiable property and NEVER is there such a thing as a standard recording contract.
You MUST hire an enterainment attorney, and if you are lucky enough to be offered a contract, your attorney must negotiate the fine details of your contract to make it doable for you for you.

There are companies like Passantino, where you can order "standard" type contracts, and I am sure that they are on the web.
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Ron Murphy (ron_murphy)
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Post Number: 145
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Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 3:20 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hello Aljaydu: the best book on the music/record business is called "This Business Of Music" it was published by Billboard magazine and has been updated several times.

most librarys will have a copy or buy from a book store...in the back of the book is many sample contracts covering everything needed for the business.
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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
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Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 6:27 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Aljaydu,

Kashif has also written a book; "Everything You Need To Know About The Music Business". There's also a book "All You Need To Know About The Music Business" by Donald Passman.

Here's a link to a site that may be helpful to you: http://homerecording.com/bbs/a rchive/index.php/t-6174.html

Good luck!!
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Eli (phillysoulman)
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Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 8:21 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, the Kashif book comes highly recommended, especially for a novice in the biz.

It is written in a straight forward, slightly funny perspective but no nonsense perspective of an industry pro who has been there.
He also has some excellent tutorial cd roms and books which are available at www. brooklynboy.com

(Message edited by phillysoulman on September 09, 2004)
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Juicefree20 (juicefree20)
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Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 9:05 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe I should have gotten those books when I was trying to write songs on the old M1 & Trinity. Talk about a one key writer.......yuk!!! The only chops that I ever owned were lamb.

(Message edited by juicefree20 on September 09, 2004)
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Fred (fred)
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Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 10:04 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Aljaydu,

While the other books mentioned are extraordinarily helpful, if you are concentrating on contract language, I strongly recommend Richard Shulenberg's "Legal Aspects of The Music Industry," which is essentially a clause-by-clause analysis of provisions commonly found in royalty recording contracts. It is published by Billboard books and should be available through their website.

Amazon has it:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obi dos/tg/detail/-/0823083276/qid =1094781622/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs _ap_i1_xgl14/102-4677676-11665 35?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

The Future of Music Coalition has a good thumbnail critique of a number of common clauses here:

http://www.futureofmusic.org/c ontractcrit.cfm
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ALJAYDU (aljaydu)
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Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 11:16 pm: Edit PostDelete PostMove Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks a million for all of that info. I will read and digest all of it.
Again, Thanks a million.

I guess what I'm trying and wanting to do is educate myself (of course) nd a few other folks.

As I've stated before, I come here a lot and read, read, read. I've gotten lots of valuable information from you all from The Forum.

There a a few folks that I know that wants to get in the business but (and I do believe that this is how most folks get ripped off) they don't want to r e a d !!!! You know, sign whatever....we're happy 'cause we got a contract. As I've told them, it would probably be better dealing with the Devil...at least you DO know where he's coming from.

I want to educate these young folks before they jump into something that they can't get themselves out of.

So, in order for me to educate THEM...I've got to educate MYSELF.
I do know a little about the music industry. Some folks says that I know a lot but as I tell them...look at the iceberg that sunk the Titanic.
Now, look underneath. That's what the music industry is about. That big, big, big chunk underneath!!!!

I know that you all will help me.

Keep it coming.

Wait...that sounds like a song....
hahahhahahah

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