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  isaiah imani (isaiah) 4-Laureate Username: isaiah Post Number: 92 Registered: 8-2004 Posted From: 66.119.33.170 |
Alright 1Wicked, this thread I dedicate to you, and all of the SDF intelligentsia who seem to believe that the lyricism of the '50's, '60's, and '70's was so much more advanced than, say, the present(smile!) I wont necessarily argue that those times didn't produce a greater tendency toward message music, and meaningful lyrics, as Moan said, but they also were responsible for some very terrible lyrics, worse even than many I hear today in rap songs...(smile!) I aint into doing the list thing, so I aint 'bout to list my all-time 10 dumbest songs, but I am quite sure the intelligentsia can, and will... I am just wanting to make the point that as dance music is geared toward compelling folk into the trance-like spirit possession which makes the body wanna get busy on the dance floor all night, the emphasis has always been on the funkiest hooks, riffs, and grooves, not great lyrics... All of that James Brown(There was a Time, when I used to Clown!)funk was designed to gitcha ass out on the flo, not to produce material for homeschoolin' the babies... The Wickedest(no pun intended)funk jams of the '70's, fire, skin tight, jungle boogie, rollercoaster, hollywood swingin', and a mess of others - where is the intelligence in the lyrics???(smile!) In the summer, my homeboys, Brass Construction and B.T. Express came and did their Movin' and Express/Peace Pipe, and all that good stuff, and we all danced, and pranced, and had a party up in that park... Wasn't no whole lotta thinking going on based on their lyrics(smile!) The fact of the matter is that so-called intelligent lyrics rarely lend themselves to dancing as do dumb lyrics, which keep the flow movin'... That was true of James Brown, and it is true of today's rappers... If you look at the first rap record, Rapper's Delight, the mechanical manner in which they spat their lyrics to one of the most danceable songs of the '70's, it actually gives you an insight into why message rap doesn't sell... Sure, you can pump ya fist to Chuck D.'s By The Time I Get to Arizona, but you can't dance to it(smile!) Same with The Message of Grand Master Flash and company... Same with Curtis Mayfield or Marvin Gaye's work... It just does not lend itself to dancing, but rather pensive listening(smile!) Sure, you may be able to find a song or two that moves you intellectually while you dance, but more often than not, if you got to think about which way your backbone is slippin' while ya pelvis is thrusting, then you need to sit down before you hurt somebody...(smile!) | ||
dvdmike (dvdmike) 5-Doyen Username: dvdmike Post Number: 365 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 65.208.234.85 |
Whaddaya mean, Isaiah? Don't tell me you don't dig intelligent lyrics such as: BE BOP A LULA SHE'S MY BABY BE BOP A LULA I DON'T MEAN MAYBE or I BOOGIED IN THE KITCHEN I BOOGIED IN THE HALL I BOOGIED ON MY FINGER AND WIPED IT ON THE WALL Come on Isaiah, you can't beat those lyrics with a stick. LOL | ||
isaiah imani (isaiah) 4-Laureate Username: isaiah Post Number: 93 Registered: 8-2004 Posted From: 216.148.246.70 |
Nah, Mike, you'd need some Karate Boogaloo PLUS some serious Kung Fu Fightin'(fast as lightnin'!)to mess around with all that(lol!) I mean Mickey's Monkey and a lil DUMdelumDela-ah might be it's equal for intelligent lyrics, but only a lil Shimmy KoKoBop would I dare consider as being superior in silliness(smile!) Peace! Isaiah | ||
Juicefree20 (juicefree20) 6-Zenith Username: juicefree20 Post Number: 2271 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 24.46.184.162 |
What's up Isaiah!! I would have to agree that there is virtually no connection between records with a groove for serious dancing & intelligent lyrics. Since the advent of Rock & Roll & even before that, intelligent lyrics were as crucial to dancing, as a tooth brush is to an elephant. The function of a dance record is to inspire dancing. If, in the process a song happens to have a message, cool. If not, who cares. Like they used to say on American Bandstand: "I give it a 95, it's got a good beat!!!" When you think about it, the whole notion of going out to party was about escapeism. People went out to dance & drink their troubles away. Nobody wants to hear a song about War, or global warming when they're dancing. No one wanted to hear songs about murder, mayhem, poverty & the ills of the world. That was the whole point of it, to get away from life's grim realities, if only for a few hours. Hell, many of our most popular artists were not exactly lyrical wordsmiths. In this part of my post, Professor Juice will examine the lyrics of a few of our most popular Funk songs of the 70's. A perusal of Professor Juices' entries reveals these lyrical gems: "Hey, hey, hey.....what'cha got to say. Say hey, hey, hey.....what'cha got to say. Hollywooooooooood, hollywood swinging." or this: "Get down, get down. Get down, get down Get down, get down. Get down, get down. OWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOO OO!!! Jungle boogie, jungle boogie Jungle boogie, jungle boogie "Get down, get down. Get down, get down Get down, get down. Get down, get down." or what about this: "Y'all bad bad misses, in your skin tight britches. Runnin' folks into ditches, baby I'm bout to bust my stitches...yeah. Skin tight (skin tight)." Or....how about this classic... "EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEOWWWWWWWWWWW WWWW Baby, give it up or turnit loose (Start it over again) Baby, give it up or turnit loose" (Repeat) (cut to final bridge) "Hold you tight, cause I need you With all my might, I gotta squeeze you Hold you tight....because.... I love you so........ OWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!! BABY!! Give it up, UHH, turnit a loose." Then there's this: "Got myself together...YEAAAH Gonna get hi-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-igher UHHH!!!! I'm movin' on." Shakesperian, isn't it?? Those lyrical messages go straight to my heart & suddenly, my soul is edified by the profound meanings within. As you can see, lyrical depth is not necessarily linked to great dance music. Actually, that's not the function of dance music. The function of dance music is to get 'cha up on the dance floor, whether it be your living room, or the club. Next session, Professor Juice dissects more of those fantabulously meaningful lyrics. In parting, I leave you with the following profound question...... "Does YOUR chewing gum lose its flavor on the bedpost overnight?" Words to think about  (Message edited by juicefree20 on September 08, 2004) | ||
paulie3$hoes (paulie3hoes) 4-Laureate Username: paulie3hoes Post Number: 142 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 70.16.133.145 |
eh juice.. not fer nuttin but my goilfrend concetta.. after i hit her wit da ol schvazool da ol toid shoe,, capice/ she takes out her chewin gum an puts it on da bedpost cuz she alwayz chews gum wen we have .. se. se.. ya know wen we have... an den she sez wit koilers in her hair to "yo paulie..let me know wen your done hon"!!2#$%^() an den she gets out a kleenex an she puts her gum on da freekin bedpost, catch my drift??eh??!@#$%^&*( | ||
Destruction (destruction) 5-Doyen Username: destruction Post Number: 368 Registered: 4-2004 Posted From: 69.139.236.125 |
", worse even than many I hear today in rap songs...(smile!) " Be bop a lula may be nonsense... but what lyrics from the 50s-70s were worse than "my neck, my back" which I would refer to as no sense? | ||
isaiah imani (isaiah) 4-Laureate Username: isaiah Post Number: 95 Registered: 8-2004 Posted From: 209.2.60.75 |
Destruction, if you find ALL of the lyrics of that period to be more intelligent than ALL of the Rap songs you've ever heard, so be it... I offered my opinion, you have yours, and life goes on... Peace! Isaiah |
