By acooolcat (211.72.121.66 - 211.72.121.66) on Sunday, December 16, 2001 - 07:07 am:

What can you tell me about this guy?

By Davie Gordon (213.251.162.249 - 213.251.162.249) on Sunday, December 16, 2001 - 09:23 pm:

Irv Biegel was one of the sales staff at Motown
- if I remember rightly he was in charge of selling singles.

I'm not at home at this minute so will have to
get back to you.

Try checking the index in Berry Gordy's book - he's almost certainly listed there.

Davie G.

By david, glasgow, scotland (62.252.128.4 - 62.252.128.4) on Sunday, December 16, 2001 - 10:46 pm:

page177 says
'on thursdays, barney ales had his marketing meetings, where his top salesmen, phil jones, al klein, irv biegel, and mel da kroob and later tom nooman and the rest of the growing sales staff would map out strategies for upcoming records and pinpoint sales activity or recent releases.'

By Marilyn (4.4.41.211 - 4.4.41.211) on Saturday, January 05, 2002 - 03:53 pm:

I met Irv the first day he started working in the business. A nice guy. John Kaplan was his first boss,at JayKay Distributing. He asked me to take him around to the radio stations & introduce him to the djs. Later,he worked for Motown. After that,he was head of Bell Records & then went to Arista. Quite a career!

By acooolcat (211.72.121.66 - 211.72.121.66) on Sunday, January 06, 2002 - 03:58 am:

Thanks Marilyn,
Popcorn Wylie mentioned his name and it will have been because Jay Kay owned Palmer Records - who distributed Popcorn's Soul-Hawk label.
Did you work at Jay-Kay too? I Know Clay was there for a while. Can you tell me if Palmer once have an office on Puritan, before Lydon?
Graham

By Marilyn (4.4.41.244 - 4.4.41.244) on Monday, January 07, 2002 - 08:02 pm:

I did a lot of free-lance promotion for JayKay.I started about 1955. I'm not sure about them being on Puritan before Lyndon. I'm going over to see John Kaplan's widow probably sometime this week,so I'll have more information for you. I lived in New York a lot after 1959,so tjere are a few spaces to fill. Actually,I was back & forth most of the rest of my life. Marion is giving me a bunch of things that John had in boxes from before he died.

By david, glasgow, scotland (62.252.128.4 - 62.252.128.4) on Monday, January 07, 2002 - 08:35 pm:

marilyn do you recall the building on lyndon?

By Marilyn (4.4.41.243 - 4.4.41.243) on Wednesday, January 09, 2002 - 05:16 pm:

Yes,I do. My sister worked there for a while,plus I got a friend of mine a job there. I used to go there about twice a week,when I had my TV show with Larry Dixon. (Club Mello)

By david, glasgow, scotland (62.252.128.4 - 62.252.128.4) on Wednesday, January 09, 2002 - 07:37 pm:

marilyn i was looking for the building in september.

this one had no street number but must be very close to where palmer/jaykay was. it sits next to a supermarket which is just out of the picture on the right.

i often wonder how he arrived at the name palmer for a record label. some people had mentioned a palmer jones a few years ago as the owner - incorrectly.

By Marilyn (4.4.42.2 - 4.4.42.2) on Friday, January 11, 2002 - 05:06 pm:

When I go to see Marian,Kaplan,I will be getting photos,plus a whole magazine dedicated to Johnny Kaplan's life in the music industry. I'll make sure I post as much as I can then. It should answer all your questions. If you come here again,you should call & meet with me. I can show you where everything was.My partner & I will have our first book out this year. It's mainly a photo history,but then we'll be coming out with an in-depth book about the history of the music business in Detroit during the early days. This won't be from just research either,but from me having lived it with all these talented people.

By david, glasgow, scotland (62.252.128.4 - 62.252.128.4) on Saturday, January 12, 2002 - 05:20 pm:

should be a great book marilyn, look forward to it.

By JohnRhys (64.161.169.6 - 64.161.169.6) on Sunday, February 17, 2002 - 04:17 pm:

I first met Irv Beigel at Golden World where he was third in command under "Uncle" Ed Wingate and JoAnn Bratton. I believe he was comptroller general. That was late 1964.
Irv was the first man who told me that "Time Will Pass You By" was going to be a hit. He was there when I started writing it. Irv had everything to do with making that song successful in England.

By david, glasgow, scotland (62.252.128.5 - 62.252.128.5) on Sunday, February 17, 2002 - 04:19 pm:

welcome to the forum john.

By Ralph Terrana (209.240.222.130 - 209.240.222.130) on Sunday, February 17, 2002 - 04:25 pm:

And it was you John who first introduced me to Uncle Ed when you were producing me and The Sunliners at Golden World.One of the better things that ever happened to me in my life. I just tried to call you. You must have a new phone number. E-mail it to me when you find time.

By phillysoulman (152.163.206.214 - 152.163.206.214) on Sunday, February 17, 2002 - 04:35 pm:

Irv was the man who was responsible for hiring my friend Weldon Mcdougal at Motown. I knew him when he was at Arista in NYC. He was a very nice human being. I am not aware of where he may be now, but I will try to find out.


Eli

By Davie G (213.251.162.249 - 213.251.162.249) on Sunday, February 17, 2002 - 05:52 pm:

Hi John,

Welcome to the forum - I'm sure you're gonna be
reminded of a lot of things you haven't thought
about in years

By The3rd (68.80.164.254 - 68.80.164.254) on Sunday, February 17, 2002 - 06:32 pm:

Like Bobby said Irv was the guy responsible for me being at Motown, when I was the local promoman
at chips dis: in Philly, Irv would tell me all the time I was doing a good job, and one day I'll bring you here at Motown,he did,Irv did a lot at Motown,he was a good guy,thanks to him I was able to make a name at Motown.Two years ago I was at sigma sounds Christmas party and Irv was there we talked a long time, he said he was still doing things,he gave me his number, but I'm sorry to say I lost it,Irv Begel will always be my friend.
Thanks Irv for what you did for me.
WELDON A. Mc DOUGAL III

By Ian W (213.122.136.197 - 213.122.136.197) on Sunday, February 17, 2002 - 11:17 pm:

John Rhys

Wow! Another great name to conjure up! What a Lively Set of people we get on this forum (ok I deserve a kick!). Tell us some of your stories about producing at Impact please!

Ian

By John Rhys (63.198.70.120 - 63.198.70.120) on Monday, March 18, 2002 - 01:27 am:

I have had the opportunity to make a lot of records for a lot of great people. However; Harry Balk is most assuredly one of the finest human beings I have ever had the pleasure to work. Not only does Harry have a sixth sense when it comes to hit records but he was the first man in the record business to pay me honestly; what I had coming and more.
Making records for Impact is one of the joys in my life.
John Rhys

By John Rhys (63.198.70.120 - 63.198.70.120) on Monday, March 18, 2002 - 01:29 am:

I have had the opportunity to make a lot of records for a lot of great people. However; Harry Balk is most assuredly one of the finest human beings with which I have ever had the pleasure to work. Not only does Harry have a sixth sense when it comes to hit records but he was the first man in the record business to pay me honestly; what I had coming and more.
Making records for Impact is one of the joys in my life.
John Rhys

By Ralph (209.240.222.130 - 209.240.222.130) on Monday, March 18, 2002 - 04:38 pm:

John...you know how I feel about Harry.I couldn't have put it any better myself.