By Carl Dixon London (62.31.40.173 - 62.31.40.173) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 11:40 am:

Ernest Banyan has posted this and thought it would be appropriate to give it a thread on its own:

I was listening to a Motown Internet radio station (right now as a matter of fact)http://www.live365.com/stations/291246 , and as a long time bassist , I was reminded of the controversy surrounding MS Kaye. I am glad that this matter was resolved in court. I'm listening right now and I can tell the difference between a "PickPlayer" and My main man James Jamerson. I was listening, thinking about the claims the Ms Kaye has made , and it made me mad again. But I'm glad I came (great site ... I'm 53 )here and found this matter to be resolved.

PS thank you Allan for the great book , I got it 12 years ago and can't find anywhere .

Thanks Ernest for reminding us about Live365. I listen to this on my overnight shift frquently.

By John Lester (213.122.204.99 - 213.122.204.99) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 11:50 am:

Carl....thanks..I bet David will give me a rollicking for writing so many messages....

I better apologise now..

By Carl Dixon (62.31.40.173 - 62.31.40.173) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 11:54 am:

I think will become a regular station for many of us. So glad Ernest mentioned it. Thing is, I was thinking of doing a station a few months ago, but I have other projects I am doing right now. I do not quite understand the legal aspect of this, but I know for sure, I would buy stuff based on what I would hear on these stations. It is a great advertisement. I think they are well organised this Live365 bunch.

By John Lester (213.122.204.99 - 213.122.204.99) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 11:58 am:

For you technology wizards.....can you tell this old fashioned man whether they mentioned that Jimmy Mack was an alternative mix..not the common one...

By Carl Dixon London (62.31.40.173 - 62.31.40.173) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:02 pm:

It has gone from the playlist sadly! I have a version on a cd comp that is different to the original hit version - or so it seems. Longer maybe? I notice on this Live365, that due to the compression, the bass stands out and I can try and pluck along on my bass guitar quite well. Not 'well' as in playing, but well because I can hear it.

By Carl Dixon (62.31.40.173 - 62.31.40.173) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:09 pm:

Little Darlin' - with strings?

By John Lester (213.122.204.99 - 213.122.204.99) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:11 pm:

Little Darling with strings

This is only on the mono lp or the CD box set ..what are they telling you

By david, glasgow, scotland (213.122.70.20 - 213.122.70.20) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:13 pm:

john this will be a worthwhile exercise for everyone.

thanks also to carl for taking up the mantle.

btw i pay £25 per month.

british telecom are talking £15? very soon.

john, for someone like yourself this would be a godsend. i promise you.

but remember you would also have top take cognisance of the capacity of your computer.

do you still have twin floppy drives? LOLOL

By John Lester (213.122.204.99 - 213.122.204.99) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:15 pm:

Surely they wouldn't play the 45..would they!!

Now that would mean they are more old fashioned than me

Martha does Since You've Been Gone...

By Carl Dixon London (62.31.40.173 - 62.31.40.173) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:15 pm:

Moods of Marin Gaye! Is that correct? I have never heard this 4 Tops before!!

By John Lester (213.122.204.99 - 213.122.204.99) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:19 pm:

The only floppy thing that I have these days is nothing to do with my computer.

So there, you cheeky rascal

IS this a THIRD song from Gladys Knight. We aint even heard anything from the Supremes yet, let alone the Velvelettes..

By John Lester (213.122.204.99 - 213.122.204.99) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:22 pm:

The Tops song was on the flip side to Standing in The Shadows of Love but it was on Second album.side 2

Martha's version needs to be issued....

By John Lester (213.122.204.99 - 213.122.204.99) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:26 pm:

You know I never tire of hearing I Can't Help Myself.

Love that different mix that Harry found for the box set with the extra backing vocals...jeez, this is it.

Harry went for this after hearing the full instrumental version which has Mike Terry farting and burping all over the place....fabulous.
love the ending with Levi...no, no, no no,

By Lester (213.122.204.99 - 213.122.204.99) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:27 pm:

one fo rall you Northern guys

BTW...may I just mention that the VELVELETTES had a go at Because I Love Him

By John Lester (213.122.204.99 - 213.122.204.99) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:30 pm:

Mary Wells...listen to Miss Ross in the background

By Carl Dixon (62.31.40.173 - 62.31.40.173) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:31 pm:

I better get my wallet out again - I need an overdraft for all the CD's I'm going to buy. I have never heard that Four Tops version of I can't help myself.

By John Lester (213.122.195.192 - 213.122.195.192) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:33 pm:

A Fork in The Road-the Miracles

This is surely the best thing that SMOKEY has ever done in his whole life.....it puts Tracks Of My Tears into the "also rans"

By John Lester (213.122.195.192 - 213.122.195.192) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:36 pm:

Carl....and you think it stops there!!

Go into any shop and ask to hear SO FAR on the Tops box set

Then just try and walk out the shop without it

By John Lester (213.122.195.192 - 213.122.195.192) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:37 pm:

Its a Good Feeling ...is HDH

I saw a Supes version lurking about

By Carl Dixon (62.31.40.173 - 62.31.40.173) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:38 pm:

I must invest in the box sets - it seems they have all sorts of different bits and pieces on. Time for a visit to Central London again....

By John Lester (213.122.195.192 - 213.122.195.192) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:48 pm:

There is a different 45 version on 7 rooms of gloom on it too...whihc was just played.

Let me tell you about Would I love You...apparently it is played to death on radio in Philly (bobby's home town) and no one could buy it on a current compilation so it had to be put onthe Lost and Found because of demand. I like it when the public speak!!!

Blimey a Miss Ross classic.....Dark Side of The World....flip to Reach Out and Touch and the flip is what we guys would play!!

By phillysoulman (64.12.104.26 - 64.12.104.26) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:52 pm:

I am in the dark ages here. I have dial-up and the signal breaks up. Sounds like stuttering.
(could work for some) Any suggestions????????

By Carl Dixon London (62.31.40.173 - 62.31.40.173) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:53 pm:

The Miss Ross track is good - it proves how much I do not know about Motown - wow!

By John Lester (213.122.195.192 - 213.122.195.192) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:11 pm:

Imagine the Velvelettes singing this...

You Lost THe Sweetet Boy

BUT IN FRENCH

The blurb from the radio station talks about Never Leave Your Baby's Side being on Watchout...it wasn't. However, th song opens with "WATCHOUT"..anyone notice Motown's obvious error in missing that song off!!

By Ritchie (62.254.0.6 - 62.254.0.6) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:13 pm:

Hi Guys

Just dropped in and found I missed a whole saga! I've been listening to 365 for quite a while now. Somebody asked if it's legal... Apparently - or so they claim, although the agreement is carefully worded to put all the onus on the "broadcaster" that everything is fully above board. (Of course it is, Officer!)

The agreement states:

"You should only include in your Internet Radio Programs sound recordings that are authorized for performance in the United States."

Also

[You assert that] "neither your Internet Radio Programs nor any parts thereof infringe upon the copyright or any other statutory or common-law intellectual property rights"

And... [you assert that]

"you own or control all rights in any such sound recording including all rights in the underlying musical composition; or

ii. [A] all writers of the songs embodied in the sound recording are affiliated with BMI, ASCAP or SESAC;"

The disclaimer looks about as legally sound as a £3 note to me.

By John Lester (213.122.195.192 - 213.122.195.192) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:20 pm:

Bobby.....me and YOU are both in the dark ages..it keeps going of and on for me too..

I think me and you are going to have to get our wallets out and get broadband!!

ME, open my wallet....watch out for the flies!! LOL

By John Lester (213.122.195.192 - 213.122.195.192) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:23 pm:

Ritchie.

Can you help....Bobby....like me he has a modem but it coming all right at present


he's..on the outside looking in....do do wah

LOL

By Ritchie (62.254.0.6 - 62.254.0.6) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:29 pm:

Hi John

You and Bobby are on dial-up connections but your signal has further to travel. Your disruptions will be due to congestion, as your feed is being routed much further.

I don't want to pour cold water on Broadband - I've got it - it's better but sometimes you still get breaks in the feed. But - I've recorded entire shows off 365 - so you can do it!

By Ritchie (62.254.0.6 - 62.254.0.6) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:31 pm:

John -

By the way. My recommendation... bin your dial-up modem and go for Broadband. It's worth it - but get a firewall to protect yourself against hackers, and some decent virus scanning software.

By phillysoulman (64.12.104.26 - 64.12.104.26) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:44 pm:

That CP Spencer was great!! Still breaking up. Maybe I need a Valium. It may help.

By david, glasgow, scotland (213.122.38.67 - 213.122.38.67) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:47 pm:

one of the great advantages i found with broadband is the speed with which i can go in and out of web pages.

i can also stay on-line without fear of the system crashing.

this was vital for this project as it takes a lot of editing and uploading to get things as right as you can make them.

yes, ritchie, i too have found buffering on broadband. but it is a million times less painful than on a 56k modem.

i watched a video of a detroit tv programme several months ago (on the subject of sprawl...the topic which has left detroit severely weakened) and it never interupted once. a minor miracle i thought.

john i promise you..you are 'too into this' to have anything less than the best technology to date. which seems to be broadband.

i could never go back to 56k...NO WAY.

By david, glasgow, scotland (213.122.38.67 - 213.122.38.67) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:51 pm:

p.s. it think it would be helpful if any experts out there could enlighten us from time to time on matters/products which could make our surfing experience even better than it already is.

many of us (myself definitely included) kind of fumble about in the dark and i don't believe we get the best use of this technology.

By Ritchie (62.254.0.6 - 62.254.0.6) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:53 pm:

David

I second that! As I type this, I'm on the Detroit Forum while moderating another Board at the same time. Try doing that on a dial-up!

By John Lester (213.122.195.192 - 213.122.195.192) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:55 pm:

I emailed the broadcaster and the email came back unprocessed......

Is that telling me something about it's legality!!

By John Lester (213.122.195.192 - 213.122.195.192) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:58 pm:

AT LAST AT LAST..the velvelettes...These Things Will Keep Me Loving You

This broadcaster is reading this site at last

and notice its the stereo version with different lyrics..

... a rose to wear in my hair...

oh wowee

By Carl Dixon (62.31.40.173 - 62.31.40.173) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 02:03 pm:

Make sure your modem is configured to be the correct speed in your modem properties, was something I was told. Do not over state its speed or capabilities. I have been listening to this for at least 2 hours and not one break up! I use Blueyonder, down here in London.

By Ritchie (62.254.0.6 - 62.254.0.6) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 02:03 pm:

That the one from Chartbusters Vol 6?

By John Lester (213.122.195.192 - 213.122.195.192) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 02:06 pm:

yep

Bobby...the Originals are performing in Manchester on June 2, 2002.

Treat yourself!!!

By John Lester (213.122.194.211 - 213.122.194.211) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 02:34 pm:

Castles In The Sand by Stevie Wonder

YET ANOTHER song which was recorded in FRENCH and which also has not been issued.

(Harry is gonna kill me....)

By Carl Dixon London (62.31.40.173 - 62.31.40.173) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 02:47 pm:

John - do you reckon a compilation of the different language recordings would be viable? Remember, most of these classic songs, the world knows their lyrics and understands basically what they mean. I am sure The Linguaphone Institute would be interested, because I imagine it would be unfair competition! For example: Lesson one the alphabet - 'ABC', Lesson two general shopping - 'Shop around', Lesson three survival techniques - 'SOS', Lesson four buying shoes - 'Just walk in my shoes', Lesson five Hotel accommodation - 'Seven rooms of gloom', Lesson six proposing - 'Third finger, left hand........

By Ritchie (62.254.0.6 - 62.254.0.6) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 02:55 pm:

Motown auf Deutsch/en Francaais/Italiano...

I've often thought this would make a great article for Chatbusters or whatever, but I don't have anything like a comprehensive list to do the subject justice.

(No, of course that was not a hint!)

;o)

By John Lester (213.122.194.211 - 213.122.194.211) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 03:05 pm:

since you been loving me...the Velvelettes is playing......

sheer perfection........

By John Lester (213.122.194.211 - 213.122.194.211) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 03:14 pm:

Carl...keep taking the medication!!

and Ritchie, youa re just as bad anyway, so stop encouraging Carl!!! LOLOLOLOLOL.

HAHAHAHAHA

Serously though, Motown recordings in a foreign language is one of those ideas that keeps re-surfacing....it will get done, someday somehow (a wink to the Marvelettes and Martha)

By John Lester (213.122.194.211 - 213.122.194.211) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 03:19 pm:

MY WEAKNESS IS YOU....

album version.........

By Carl Dixon (62.31.40.173 - 62.31.40.173) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 03:30 pm:

John - we are all in our element at the moment! In addition I am at home with the domestic pleasures of life. The gas man has just been and serviced the appliance and I am waiting for a new carpet to be delivered and fitted! That is why I am so active - my music stuff is all disconnected, but this is a fantastic substitute. Listening to this, trying to learn the bass guitar and play along and chatting on the forum! What more could a boy ask for????

By John Lester (213.122.194.211 - 213.122.194.211) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 03:41 pm:

ha ha ha ha..

Pity we couldn't get Bobby to show you a few of his musical licks on line........

By david, glasgow, scotland (213.122.53.188 - 213.122.53.188) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 03:59 pm:

i noticed on one of their sub-channels (rare r&b) that they are playing tracks from santa monica's 'lost soul oldies' collage.

has anyone seen/got/know where i can get a hold of
.....lost soul oldies.

they look fantastic cd's. 12 volumes?

btw this thread has received 47 comments since it was opened 4 hours ago!!!!!!!!

By John Lester (213.122.194.211 - 213.122.194.211) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 04:12 pm:

Yeah....there has been a lot of messages and I confess that I am at fault here.

I am sorry, David..I just get all excited when I hear my music like this.

Also, it's a cheaper way of getting excited cos I don't have to buy a Viagra tablet...!!!!

By david, glasgow, scotland (213.1.182.249 - 213.1.182.249) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 04:29 pm:

i was actually PLEASED to announce that john :-)

By phillysoulman (64.12.104.57 - 64.12.104.57) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 04:30 pm:

Sony puts out a Lost Soul series and my friend Joe McKuen does the liner notes . Is that the same one?
Also, at some point , when possible i can do some "on line licks" albeit not of a sexual nature
speaking of Viagra!(incdentally, the stuff works )

By Carl Dixon (62.31.40.173 - 62.31.40.173) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 04:39 pm:

Bobby - the only licks I want, for the moment anyway, are from that lovely Bassett's ice cream parlour in the indoor market in Philly. Two important places in Philly are Sigma and Bassett's AND they are both down Nth12st - I think.

By phillysoulman (152.163.197.76 - 152.163.197.76) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 04:56 pm:

And now--Ta Dah... The long extended version!!!!

By Ernie (12.224.156.115 - 12.224.156.115) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 09:09 pm:

Hey guys thanks for the nice welcome here and I hope you enjoy the link, am listening to Fever in the Funk House , which I have NEVER heard . Man James was to much. Anyway here is the link again if anyone missed it... http://www.live365.com/stations/291246

and thanks for this Great Forum

Ernest Banyan