By phillysoulman (205.188.199.174 - 205.188.199.174) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:26 am:

I have posted this thread especially for those who have technical questions relative to the types of instuments played, guitars, keyboards, basses,recording techniques etc., used by all the illustrious musicians and composers and producer/ writers on this forum. This way we could have a thread dedicated to this topic and it can be easier to navigate.

Eli

By phillysoulman (64.12.104.26 - 64.12.104.26) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:45 pm:

Carl, There are some great upright and acoustic basses in the proteus 2000, and especially with the Logic dynamics function you should be able to successfully get a groove going. Takre it from one who knows!!

Eli

By Carl Dixon London (62.31.40.173 - 62.31.40.173) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:57 pm:

I have used the upright (one of them) on my Xmas song. I need to twiddle a bit to get that boom boom sound that I like.It also will hide my mistakes on the track!

I can't believe all the drum kits on there too. There are an amazing amount of tambourine shakes and those bell things you hit with a stick! The organ sounds are majestic. I still cannot find the harp unless I am blind.

By phillysoulman (64.12.104.26 - 64.12.104.26) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:14 pm:

I think the harps are on the additional card which I have previously mentioned, unless there is on under the orchestral section.

By Ralph (209.240.222.130 - 209.240.222.130) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 02:08 pm:

I have two keyboards that I use exclusively in the studio. One is an Ensoniq TS 12 and the other is a Kurzweil PC 88. These two keyboards never let me down. I love the feel of the TS 12 and do all my piano and organ tracks using this keyboard. The sales guys at the local music store I hang out at are always hot to show me some latest keyboard they have for sale. So far I haven't seen anything that will take me away from these two keyboards and I've had the TS 12 for nearly nine years.

By Carl Dixon London (62.31.40.173 - 62.31.40.173) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 02:13 pm:

Bobby - In that case I need the extra board. I cannot live without a harp, and that's just because I am a pleasant plucker! However, last night a sequenced some real sampled harp one of my songs. I think it will sound a whole lot better than midi -maybe. It was on the 'DownTown' Strings sample cd - do you know it?

Ralph - in that case, do you take the stereo audio out of the TS 12 and feed it in to the mixer??

By Ralph (209.240.222.130 - 209.240.222.130) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 03:22 pm:

Carl,
Yes, that is exactly what I do. For piano I use the TS 12 exclusively. It has some great " meaty " piano patches.

By drums (208.251.209.82 - 208.251.209.82) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 03:55 pm:

Hello out there!

I have 2 questions reg. drum miking techniques today!

First are accoustic drums being used still for your recordings or are you guys using electronics and sequenced tracks and drum machines?

Second, if accoustic what miking techniques are you using?

Daren Metz

By phillysoulman (64.12.104.57 - 64.12.104.57) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 04:16 pm:

In my opinion, a good rule of thumb would be:
a sure sm 57 on the snare, although for that "vintage" Philly snare sound you would use an Altec 666 "saltshaker" with at least a 10 inch snare with a Kotex taped to the drum head!!
A Sennheiser 451 on the hi-hat, Sennheiser 421's on the toms an RCA BK5(if you can find one)or an Electro-Voice RE20 on the kick and two Neumann KM 84's for overheads.
None of these "newfangled" drums work, in my book as far as authenticity is concerned.

By drums (208.251.209.82 - 208.251.209.82) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 06:39 pm:

Hey Bobby ELI!!!

Was that the standard "TSOP" setup? Also, what type of kit did Earl Young use for those sessions??

They sound like Vintage Ludwigs or Gretsch with a Supra 400 snare that was either taped up or with a wallet or something on the top head!!! I know that the Cymbals were 60's or 70's series Zildjian "A"'s probably with a little tape on them as well!

Did that kit belong to Earl or the studio?

Lastly, were is that kit now?

DM

By phillysoulman (205.188.199.49 - 205.188.199.49) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 09:20 pm:

Standard setup! It was a Pearl kit, with the pearl finish, and later the kick was a black one.
The snare was the one that came with the set. Nothing special. ...Earl was SPECIAL!!!
He could take the crappiest kit and make it sing.
Others who played the very same kit didn't cut it, so they had to use their own!!
The kit belonged to the studio, and there was a similar one downstairs in 2, but 1 being a larger space worked better with the room spill working in tandem with the rest of us. That room had a character all it's own, that is virtually impossible to duplicate by today's standards.
So many have tried, but failed. By comparison,
you cannot duplicate the Mona Lisa or reinvent the wheel!!!!