|By david, glasgow, scotland (126.96.36.199 - 188.8.131.52) on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 08:13 pm:|
did you ever meet popcorn?
|By Dennis Coffey (184.108.40.206 - 220.127.116.11) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 12:41 am:|
Hey David. I did a lot of sessions with Popcorn. One that stands out is "Here Comes the Judge" I enjoyed working with him. Popcorn did some good stuff.
|By DeAnne (18.104.22.168 - 22.214.171.124) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 05:18 am:|
I met Popcorn once, in 1965. I found out that I can e-mail the song that he wrote for me..."Love The Second Time...I will work on e-mailing it this week. Dennis...I remember "Here Comes The Judge"...it's been a long time.
|By david, glasgow, scotland (126.96.36.199 - 188.8.131.52) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 08:45 am:|
thanks deanne, and what was he like in 1965? apart from being portly, like me!
|By acooolcat (184.108.40.206 - 220.127.116.11) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 10:35 am:|
Theresa Lindsey told me that Popcorn used to eat a lot of boiled eggs.
I'm looking forward to hearing the song.
|By John Lester (18.104.22.168 - 22.214.171.124) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 10:44 am:|
Was that "Here Comes The Judge" by Shorty Long?? Cos that song was produced by Billy J Brown, Suzanne dePasse and BG himself.
|By acooolcat (126.96.36.199 - 188.8.131.52) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 10:52 am:|
I think it'll be the instrumental version by The Beuna Vistas - Does that group ring a bell? I think it was released about the same time as Shorty Long's; a guitarist named of Joey Kingfish played with The Beuna Visas. Remember him?
And wasn't a Detroit DJ involved in putting out their stuff on the La Salle label?
|By John Lester (184.108.40.206 - 220.127.116.11) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 10:54 am:|
I heard a tape with Joey Kingfish on it and it was definitely Jerry Plunk of Flaming Ember.
It originated from Goldmine
|By acooolcat (18.104.22.168 - 22.214.171.124) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:17 pm:|
Do you mean "I Won't Hurt You Anymore"? Or something else?
Kingfish did a lot of session work for Don Davis. He also worked for Diamond Jim Riley and Thelma Records; you'll see his name on some of those labels as songwriter/producer. He's a great guy.
|By John Lester (126.96.36.199 - 188.8.131.52) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:42 pm:|
Well spotted Graham..you are not a called a cool cat for nothing
Clearly, tou have the same tape!!!!!!! It's a been done like a duet with Steve Mancha but you can easily tell when they the guys are switched.
|By Ritchie (184.108.40.206 - 220.127.116.11) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:50 pm:|
There's also a track called "Not A Word Of Consolation" - another "duet" that Goldmine have credited to Steve Mancha and Marion Davis.
There are two guys on the record. Shome Mishtake Shurely?
|By Ralph (18.104.22.168 - 22.214.171.124) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 01:55 pm:|
My brother would notice Popcorn sitting in the studio reading a newspaper and underlining in pencil certain things he would find of interest. Russ asked what he was doing that for and Corn told him that's is how he got his ideas for songs he would write.
|By david, glasgow, scotland (126.96.36.199 - 188.8.131.52) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 02:00 pm:|
yes, he told me that third party's 'such a soul says' came out of 'simple simon says'.
sometimes you don't want info like that!
but it hasn't curbed my enjoyment of that classic 'black record'. i love it.
|By acooolcat (184.108.40.206 - 220.127.116.11) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 02:21 pm:|
Some of the credits/notes on Goldmine CDs are a bit off-the-mark; The JJ Barnes compilation being one example. There's a couple of tracks on it that are definately not JJ.
I have Kingfish's IWHYA on a Goldmine 7" 45 (Sevens) with Bob & Fred on flip - I think - it might The Parliaments.
|By Ritchie (18.104.22.168 - 22.214.171.124) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 02:27 pm:|
That's the kind of cock-up I was referring to when I made my remark about CD liner notes. (Motown was furthest from my mind at that point - and John L told me off!)
|By John Lester (126.96.36.199 - 188.8.131.52) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 03:09 pm:|
ME tell you off.....naaah, never!!
|By david, glasgow, scotland (184.108.40.206 - 220.127.116.11) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 03:28 pm:|
i would prefer if they would just put on the cd 'unknown artist' as the westbound re-issuers did with one of the last tracks on their compilation.
it's just as interesting and all the more intriguing.
graham didn't you say that the joeboy releases had inaccuracies.. reference barbara mercer 'singing' 'dream'?
kent was also wrong with audrey matthews and 'i have no choice'.
goldmine are not alone.
also, fanzines have been full of 'guessing' over the years. i suppose it was better than nothing...as long as you were able to keep an open mind and not swallow it like i did!
|By John Lester (18.104.22.168 - 22.214.171.124) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 04:06 pm:|
It's all part of the fun, you are not the only one who swallowed incorrect information!!
In the good old days when all this music was happening, we HAD to guess...you MUST know what it was like..everything was on import and hard to get or expensive to buy.
I can recall when albums were 32/6 and Elton John's music shop in Berwick Street were selling imports for about 45/- (that is 45 shillings)...to me, still at school, that was a huge sum of money. So everything was few and far between. Those cheap fanzines and fan club newsletters helped us to pool all our resources together...but I shall tell you one thing...IT WAS A LOT OF FUN. Did it really matter if we got it wrong, the music said it all anyway and there was nothing wrong with that!!
I started MY own Motown listing in 1967...I then got a pen friend in the States who went through library Cashboxes, Record World, Billboard etc, whilst I scanned dealers' record lists, UK music papers, Disc, NME, Record Mail (don't ask me about that ancient listing!!) and others. As an aside, I recall compiling my Music Merchant, Invictus and Hot Wax listings, as they were being issued.
And you know what I now find really funny, and it's only cos I am older and wiser....through a little guessing, I made some errors in those listings...some because I relied on incorrect information or simply due to copying errors. Over the years, some people have had the nerve to give themselves credit for one of my old listings and which has one of my 30 year old errors in it. Normally I don't say anything but I am not as green as I am cabbage looking!! LOLOLOLOLOL
|By david, glasgow, scotland (126.96.36.199 - 188.8.131.52) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 04:28 pm:|
nice post john.
|By Dennis Coffey (184.108.40.206 - 220.127.116.11) on Thursday, March 14, 2002 - 10:27 pm:|
Hey John, I also did sessions at Motown with Shorty Long. Does anyone know if there were two versions of Here Comes the Judge?
|By recordboyusa (18.104.22.168 - 22.214.171.124) on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 01:37 am:|
Mike Terry would know about the Buena Vistas. I believe they had a tie to the Buffalo group the Rockin' Rebels, and d.j. Tom Shannon was involved somehow.
|By DeAnne (126.96.36.199 - 188.8.131.52) on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 02:08 am:|
Hi! Tom Shannon is back in Buffalo. I still talk to him occasionally.. I met Tom when I did his TV show with my record..we dated for a while. Boy, are you bringing back memories.
|By Dennis Coffey (184.108.40.206 - 220.127.116.11) on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 02:39 am:|
Hey, DeAnne, I remember that Mike Theodore and I had the house band on Tom Shannon's TV show. We played five days a week. It was a fun gig when Detroit was really happening.
|By acooolcat (18.104.22.168 - 22.214.171.124) on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 04:37 am:|
I have a radio station top 20 chart with a photo of Tom on it from c. 1968 - going from memory it's CKLW in Windsor.
I'd love to talk to Tom; DeAnne - or anyone - can you let me have a contact number off-list please. Or get him to come on the forum!
Best wishes, Graham
|By DeAnne (126.96.36.199 - 188.8.131.52) on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 02:54 pm:|
I'm off to work, and I think that I have the radio station number where he works in Buffalo. I will try to call him. I spoke to him about two years ago. Your chart had to me CKLW, that's where he was at that time. I will give him all of the information when I reach him. thanks.
|By John Lester (184.108.40.206 - 220.127.116.11) on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 08:46 pm:|
I don't know of two versions of Shorty Long's "Here Comes The Judge" but I shall say one thing. Now you have raised the subject, I am sure gonna find out!
|By John Lester (18.104.22.168 - 22.214.171.124) on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 08:49 pm:|
Can you tell me anything about working with "BADDDD" Shorty Long. I really did rate him and I was heartbroken when I heard about his passing.
|By Dennis Coffey (126.96.36.199 - 188.8.131.52) on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 09:44 pm:|
Hi John. I don't remember too much. But I do remember him in the studio when we were recording at Hitsville. Most of the time, the artists were not there. He seemed like a nice guy with a sense of humor. I was sorry to hear of his accident and passing at such a young age. I heard from David Flynn and now I believe Shorty and Pigmeat Markham had the only two versions of Hear Comes the Judge, not Popcorn. I learn a lot talking to you folks.
|By Dave Rimmer (184.108.40.206 - 220.127.116.11) on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 10:21 pm:|
As the person who wrote the sleeve notes on the Joeboy CD where Barbara Mercer is credited with 'Dream', I'd have to agree...NOW..it probably is not Barbara Mercer. But at the time the notes were written that is the name I was given by Joeboy, because that is the name that was given to them by the original owner of the track. Having said that, I have no idea who it really is, if it's not Barbara Mercer.
The great difficulty is of course establishing who recorded a track over thirty years ago that was never released then. Paperwork, if it ever was filed away, is lost, thrown away, perhaps still in a filing cabinet in someone's garage in Detroit. Who knows ?
|By Ritchie (18.104.22.168 - 22.214.171.124) on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 10:31 pm:|
If "to err is human" and "to forgive divine" I suggest that the guy who owns up is going one better.
Good on ya, mate!
|By John Lester (126.96.36.199 - 188.8.131.52) on Friday, March 15, 2002 - 11:28 pm:|
Quite agree Ritchie.
Dave....no one is perfect....and he who never made a mistake, never did anything
|By david, glasgow, scotland (184.108.40.206 - 220.127.116.11) on Monday, March 18, 2002 - 01:08 pm:|
barbara mercer has confirmed it is not herself on that song.
like i say, i'd be happy with unknown artist.
|By ed wolfrum (18.104.22.168 - 22.214.171.124) on Friday, March 22, 2002 - 02:49 am:|
I did a session with Tom Shannon at the old GM studios (the upstairs room with the Bloom-Audio Designs BLUE board,) right before he left Detroit. It was sort of a "bubble gum" thing as I remember. Did you have anything to do with that Dennis? If any one talks to him, remember me to him and pleas wish him the best from Detroit.
|By Dennis Coffey (126.96.36.199 - 188.8.131.52) on Saturday, March 23, 2002 - 12:14 am:|
Hey Ed. I did a lot of sessions at GM for Tom so its possible. I'd have to know the artist or the name of the record. Right now, it doesn't ring a bell.
|By uarda or email@example.com (184.108.40.206 - 220.127.116.11) on Thursday, June 06, 2002 - 01:35 pm:|
This message is for Dennis Coffey.
I heard from Keith Rylatt that you did sessions
with by dad Mike Hanks. How was his presence in the studio. Was he a prefectionist in
the studio. Did you like him did you know of him having any enemies. i never knew my father i am currently writing a book to know of him.
I love to hear from you,
Uarda e-mail me firstname.lastname@example.org
|By thecount (18.104.22.168 - 22.214.171.124) on Sunday, June 16, 2002 - 03:44 pm:|
Hey POPCORN,are you there?Eddie Union from the VOLUMES,told me you played the suitcase on "I LOVE YOU".I always loved that song and all the VOLUMES songs but wondered where is the drummer in I LOVE YOU.It just struck me funny that in the song "YOU GOTTA GIVE HER LOVE,the drummer is having so much fun and such kool ruddiments on the snare,I always wondered about "I LOVE YOU".I really enjoy playing along with "YOU GOTTA GIVE HER LOVE" on my drums to the record,it is really a fun song to play,as are so many of the other "VOLUMES" songs.But I cant find a SLINGERLAND suitcase anywhere,but I still play along with "I LOVE YOU" Steve "The Count"