By acooolcat (211.78.0.219 - 211.78.0.219) on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 04:58 am:

I have couple of 45s listed on the Pioneer label and guess it was an off-shoot of the studio. Any comments/additions on these?

Pioneer 2103 - Bill Murray - Merry Christmas/instrumental

Pioneer 2109 - Gambrells - Jive Talk/?

Regards, Graham

By phillysoulman (64.12.107.47 - 64.12.107.47) on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 02:33 pm:

I believe that Bill Murray was a comedian/ mc who used to mc the early Motortown Revue shows. I have seen him back in the day doing just that. His name has appeared on some of the early marquees ie, tha Apollo and Uptown and I believe it is on the cover of the first Motown revue live album, me thinks!!

By Ralph (209.240.222.130 - 209.240.222.130) on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 02:38 pm:

Graham,
I'll send Alan Sussman an e-mail and see if he will come on the forum to comment on this.

By Ritchie Hardin (62.254.0.6 - 62.254.0.6) on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 02:42 pm:

Hi guys

Here's Bill Murray for you.

By Ralph (209.240.222.130 - 209.240.222.130) on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 02:46 pm:

Ritchie,
You are a fountain of information.

By phillysoulman (64.12.107.47 - 64.12.107.47) on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 02:51 pm:

That's him!! That's the guy!!!
He is in fact, the Motown MC. I actually met him on occasion on the road and in Phily.
Funny man indeed!!

By Ritchie (62.254.0.6 - 62.254.0.6) on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 02:55 pm:

Guys

My pleasure, as ever.

Ralph - I wish I was a fountain... maybe then people might chuck a few coins my way ;o)

By John Lester (213.122.199.143 - 213.122.199.143) on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 09:43 pm:

When I was a kid, I used to know this fountain which was used by the boys as a john...far from throwing coins in there, they used to.....errr....well, you know

By phillysoulman (64.12.97.11 - 64.12.97.11) on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 09:49 pm:

But not on the Studio floor. Anyway, not at Sigma

By Ian W (213.122.176.208 - 213.122.176.208) on Saturday, March 09, 2002 - 04:30 pm:

Guys

Bill 'Winehead' Murray had a single on Anna - 'Big Time Spender'!

I've got the Gambrells 45:

811P-2109 - 'Jive Talk' (Wr. Carol Clayton, Arr. Milt Olson) - 4TKM-0973 & PRSD-2109 Tru-Soul Pub. BMI
- 'Find A Love' (Wr. Pat Hunt, same arr.) - U4KM-2876 & PRSD-2110

Label is gold with black lettering. I think the record was one of these 45s deemed to be rare and only a small quantity known to exist (like Danny Moore on Allrite), but then boxes of them were discovered and the price dropped accordingly!

Ian

By acooolcat (211.78.0.219 - 211.78.0.219) on Sunday, March 10, 2002 - 04:20 pm:

I'm guessing that was after you bought it, Ian? Thanks for mailing the label details. I have the "Merry Christams" 45 but it's pretty dire, as you can probably imagine. Fortunately it only cost me a few cents. Ian - wanna swop for The Gambrells?!!!!
Graham

By Keith Rylatt (195.92.168.170 - 195.92.168.170) on Sunday, March 10, 2002 - 06:44 pm:

Does anyone out there have an owner and or address for Pioneer please? Thanks Keith.

By david, glasgow, scotland (213.107.27.25 - 213.107.27.25) on Sunday, March 10, 2002 - 09:14 pm:

keith
ralph will be revealing the owner of pioneer in the next segment of the tera shirma story.

stay tuned.

By acooolcat (61.222.95.58 - 61.222.95.58) on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 08:42 am:

I played the Bill Murray 45 this morning - a painful experience it was too! I'm sure it's not the same guy, this Christmas song sounds like Pat Boone.
Graham

By Ritchie (62.254.0.6 - 62.254.0.6) on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 04:05 pm:

Maybe it was the other Bill Murray... (although, he'd only have been 12 at the time!)

By Ian W (213.122.121.234 - 213.122.121.234) on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 05:49 pm:

Well, you can't hurry a Murray!

By John Lester (213.1.133.145 - 213.1.133.145) on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 08:46 pm:

Ian W

You have been reading too many of Ritchie's posts!

LOL

By Ian W (213.122.176.51 - 213.122.176.51) on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 - 09:03 pm:

In my defence, I'd only say I had nothing valuable to add to the conversation, but the forum is too good to resist! 8-}

Ian

even I didn't know what that 'emoticon' meant!

By david, glasgow, scotland (213.107.27.25 - 213.107.27.25) on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 07:37 pm:

graham sends in this scan of the pioneer label.

By Ian W (213.123.47.180 - 213.123.47.180) on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 10:55 pm:

Thanks Graham and David

I'll add it to my collection. Forum members - how sad can I get if I collect label scans?

Ian

By david, glasgow, scotland (213.107.27.25 - 213.107.27.25) on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 11:04 pm:

there's method in your madness!

look forward to a great pic of pioneer's owner, coming up soon courtesy of ralph.

By Ritchie (62.254.0.6 - 62.254.0.6) on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 11:07 pm:

Ian

Nothing wrong with that! I heard a story about a very sad collector. Apparently each time he meets a woman he likes, she instantly loses interest when he proudly tells her all about his prize collection of milk bottles.

By Ian W (213.123.47.180 - 213.123.47.180) on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 11:17 pm:

Ritchie

Good job I didn't tell you about the photo of a sheep I carry in my briefcase!

By Ritchie (62.254.0.6 - 62.254.0.6) on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - 11:18 pm:

Ian

COR! Can I have a copy???