By John Lester (213.122.204.254 - 213.122.204.254) on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 09:21 pm: |
I can't find where I talked about this superb album on this site. So I am going to raise it again separately and hope that a certain person will put down the weed for a few minutes!!!!!! (naaah, you dont have to!!) and talk about this wonderful UNISSUED album which I have had the pleasure of hearing....
I honestly cannot understand why this remendous piece of work should remain stuck on a tape just gathering dust. Jermaine was as well suited to the Philly sound as was Eddie Kendricks.
Bobby.....over to you..if you don't mind.
By phillysoulman (152.163.197.52 - 152.163.197.52) on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 10:21 pm: |
John,
It was issued in America, and I believe that I have a copy of it as well as Weldon.
It was produced by the Baker/Harris and Young triumverate(really Baker/ Harris) Earl never really produced anything of significance. He was just a partner in the company.
A lot of the material was written with the late Bruce Gray, Ron Tyson of the Love Committee/Ethics/Tempts, Bunny Sigler, the late Allen Felder, Ronnie Baker and Norman harris, and I believe, Talmadge Conway as well.
The usually A-list crew was on hand in the studio and Carl Paruolo and Jim Gallagher did most of the engineering chores. I remember Jermaine having his rather new bride Hazel-Gordy- Jackson with him. I must dig out my stydio pics of all this stuff as soon as i get back to Philly.
Also, another related story.
In 1968, while doing my second Apollo gig with the Vibrations, who were the "stars" ,we were riding up 125th street to check out the marquee, and in tiny letters on the bottom it said and "the Jackson five and Johnny"
We all thought out loud,"who the f**k are they"
So anyway, while we were backstage the first day there was a hustler type guy who called himself "sweet baby james" believe it or not.
He was sort of ghetto looking and not impressive, and he said to us "hey man, I got these young kids here, its their first serious gig and I'm their manager and s**t" " I want y'all to check 'em out 'cause they bad and they gon' be large'!! they got this little fella, cant be no more that nine or ten, man" ' Ya gotta see 'em dance an do they thing" ' Thet a mo*******er man!!!"
Joe Jackson was there as well, and when the Vibrations peerformed, Jermaine let me plug my guitar into his amp!!
So when he came in to record with us , he rememgered the incident. Sweet baby James was soon nowhere to be found!!!!!
We were also on a show with them at the Regal in
chicago shortly thereafter and this was where Bobby Taylor met them and told me backstage verbatim "Hey man, I gotta take these little dudes to meet Berry. He's gonna love 'em"
So you heard it straight from someone who WAS THERE, LIVE AND IN LIVING COLOR!!!!!
By phillysoulman (152.163.197.52 - 152.163.197.52) on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 10:22 pm: |
Please forgive any typos!!!
By John Lester (213.122.203.5 - 213.122.203.5) on Wednesday, March 06, 2002 - 09:34 pm: |
Thanks for that Bobby, I really appreciate it.
Can you recall any titles?
By phillysoulman (205.188.198.168 - 205.188.198.168) on Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 02:36 am: |
It'l take a while to locate it and then I will post the titles. We did about 14 songs altogether, and 12 made the final cut, I believe.
I will get all the info together.
By John Lester (213.122.200.142 - 213.122.200.142) on Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 08:07 am: |
Wowee............
I am really looking forward to this....
By HW (12.110.192.128 - 12.110.192.128) on Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 05:12 pm: |
Hi guys,
It's Harry Weinger, the reissue producer et al... I am enjoying this site - so much so, that I see no reason to post. However, in the spirit of the love and passion shown here I will attempt to share some insights from time to time... if that's OK, since for the most part I was NOT there. ;) - but hey, sometimes I have info or have heard things that have passed through time and may otherwise be forgotten.
That said, yo, Bobby, Jermaine's Philly album never came out, period. I have the track list somewhere, will post when I dig it up.
And then maybe we'll see about its release, someday someway.
Keep on keepin' on, and
PEACE!
HW
By phillysoulman (64.12.106.31 - 64.12.106.31) on Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 05:16 pm: |
I remember doing a few in the "he's a friend" Going up in smoke" vein that Norman Harris did so well. Jermaine seemed really happy to be working with us and always had a happy grin.
The sessions were one of a handful of Motown released albums that were entirely recorded and mixed at Sigma, the other was a Tempts album that we did( I forgot the name) We also did a Tempts album for their short stint at Atlantic, I think it was "Hear to tempt you"
I produced , with Weldon a single called "No more beautiful days" for Jimmy Randolph on Motown, around 1973. It was kind of an O.C. Smith type song.
Eli
By Ritchie Hardin (62.254.0.6 - 62.254.0.6) on Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 05:59 pm: |
Harry
Welcome to the forum. Great to see you here!
Speaking both personally and on behalf of the small army of fellow Motown-freaks this side of the pond, I'd like to say a big "thank you" for all your efforts in unearthing so much treasure from the vaults. I know that we're crazy people when it comes to the magic of Detroit, but it's great to have someone equally devoted on the inside of the industry.
Harry - may all your endeavours be blessed with success. We're with you all the way!
By david, glasgow, scotland (213.107.27.25 - 213.107.27.25) on Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 06:11 pm: |
harry, welcome to the forum.
i think you will enjoy some of mr eli's "motown people pics" which i hope to be able to begin uploading within 2 weeks.
stay tuned.
By Carl Dixon London (62.31.40.173 - 62.31.40.173) on Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 07:09 pm: |
Hi Harry
Keep reissueing and we'll keep buying! I would be certainly interested in any release that just has studio chatter on!!!! Even if one of the tracks is the piano being tuned. Maybe Ralph could do 'cover' version of that!!
cheers
Carl
By phillysoulman (205.188.198.174 - 205.188.198.174) on Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 10:02 pm: |
Yo Harry,
Glad to see that you made it onto the forum.
Thanks for setting the record straight about the Jermaine album. I could sworn that it was issued.
Must be some kind of sub-conscious deja vu type of thing coupled with a large degree of wishful thinking. As I have previosly stated, there were some decent songs recorded so it was more than likely a political thing between B.G. and the production entity.
Hope that it will resurface soon and maybe I can do a few remixes. (hint hint).
Eli
By John Lester (213.122.202.231 - 213.122.202.231) on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 05:39 am: |
Someday Someway........
The Marvelettes did that one.....(and so did the Vandellas)
I really do hope that this Philly Jermaine album comes out...it's just too good to stay locked up. And I am sure HW will find a way.....
PLEASE!
By phillysoulman (64.12.107.47 - 64.12.107.47) on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 02:20 pm: |
John,
How and where did you hear the Jermaine album??
By John Lester (213.122.199.143 - 213.122.199.143) on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 09:49 pm: |
Harry Weinger.....said to me tell me what you think of this.....
Then he had to pick me up off the floor!
It was THAT good......Jermaine was never one of my favourites until I heard that album. You guys knew EXACTLY what to do with him.