Wilson Pickett

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Top of pageBottom of page   By acooolcat (211.78.0.219 - 211.78.0.219) on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 02:34 am:

I'd love to interview Wicked Pickett - Does anyone have a contact number for him?
His early Detroit career kicked off with The Falcons before he recorded as a solo artist on Correc-tone; I'd like to document those Detroit years.
Of course "If You Need Me" is top notch soul and "Let Me Be Your Boy" is one of my all-time faves.
Graham

Top of pageBottom of page   By phillysoulman (64.12.104.51 - 64.12.104.51) on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 11:43 am:

Hi Graham,I have in the past actually written several songs for Pickett and produced several as well, two as duets with Jackie Moore. I think that he has moved from his former address and I will locate one for you. If you talk to him mention me and be prepared for a wild ride!!!!

Top of pageBottom of page   By acooolcat (211.72.121.66 - 211.72.121.66) on Wednesday, March 06, 2002 - 04:57 am:

Bobby - that's great. I look forward to hearing from you. You can contact me off-list at acooolcat@yahoo.com
Graham

Top of pageBottom of page   By motesartsound (66.127.78.42 - 66.127.78.42) on Monday, March 18, 2002 - 05:49 pm:

For Bobby:

I was listening to a couple of tunes recently from the "Wilson Pickett In Philadelphia" recording (what a gem!) and you mentioned that "Engine Number 9" was recorded live in the studio itself. Was this at the old Sigma studios, long before the 12th St. location?
And by the way, who was doing all of that hooping-and-a-hollering as "the wicked" done his final scream like the Mercury Cougar cat in the studio?

Derrald

Top of pageBottom of page   By phillysoulman (64.12.104.51 - 64.12.104.51) on Monday, March 18, 2002 - 05:59 pm:

Derrald,

Sigma has never been in another location.
The former occupant Reco art was in another location before 1958. Sigma opened in August of 1968. The Pickett sessions were in 1970.
The hoopin' and a hollerin' were all of us in the studio being picked up by the live mikes as we were testifying to his performance which was done right ther on the spot!!!!

Eli

Top of pageBottom of page   By Dennis Coffey (136.1.1.154 - 136.1.1.154) on Monday, March 18, 2002 - 09:06 pm:

Hi folks. I recorded Don't Knock my Love in Mussel Shoals Alabama with Pickett. He is super funky and wild. The Mussel Shoals rhythm section down there played some good southern funk. It was located across from a cemetery. The building was cinder block inside and its shape reminded me a little of Hitsville.

Dennis Coffey

Top of pageBottom of page   By motesartsound (66.122.53.123 - 66.122.53.123) on Tuesday, March 19, 2002 - 03:51 am:

Dennis,
Was that session produced by Dave Crawford and Mike Shapirao? Plus was that at the Jackson Highway facilities?

Derrald Leo Mote!

Top of pageBottom of page   By motesartsound (66.122.53.123 - 66.122.53.123) on Tuesday, March 19, 2002 - 04:00 am:

For Bobby:

On the "Green Grass" session, I hear a count of "six" being heard as well as a whistle being blown plus a woman laughing berore the 1-2-3-4 countoff. I was wondering is this was the sixth take of the recording? And since this was at the N. 12th St studios, was this also recorded live to direct? Dare I say it, Joe Tarsia and his second engineer(s), from my ears, performed a spetacular job. Who the hell needs an an (overrated engineers) such as Al Schmitt or a Bob Clearmountian!

Derrald Leo Mote!

Top of pageBottom of page   By Eli (64.12.104.46 - 64.12.104.46) on Tuesday, March 19, 2002 - 04:11 am:

I have never heard a version with a count or studio chatter.It must be some kind of bootleg or import. When I had mentioed that it was "live", I meant that it was all done at the same time on 16 track, not direct to stereo.
Green grass was not "live". It was a conventional rhythm date, with Pickett added later on.
Incidently, this was 1970 and he complained to Gamble and Huff that the album was costing $60,000
when he was used to bringing one in for $15,000!!!
At today's rates it would be about$300,000!!!

Top of pageBottom of page   By motesartsound (66.122.55.71 - 66.122.55.71) on Tuesday, March 19, 2002 - 08:29 am:

Bobby:

This version was released on a CD by Rhino, "The Best Of Wilson Pickett" and it features some studio chatter and warm-ups, all within the first few sceonds as the tune begins.
Here's the secanirao: Someone says "six", preceded by a couple of piano notes, and as the pre-intro is edited, Norman Harris (or you) play four notes along with Ronnie, as well as the conga player/percussionist. then some of the musicians stop. Then that same person (I now began to believe it is Joe Tarsia on the talkback) saying "six" again, somebody begins to blow a wistle, and I hear Wilson chatting about "you the man..." fowolled by a thumping sound and a woman laughing plus the 1-2-3-4 and the tune begins.
Then again, was Atlantic responsible for the budget, whilst "the wicked" complained about?
By the way, we all wish him a happy 61st prime-of-life day by way of the 18th.

Who is Derrald!

Top of pageBottom of page   By Dennis Coffey (206.47.172.178 - 206.47.172.178) on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 02:49 am:

Hi folks. You are correct. Don't Knock my Love was produced by David and Brad at Mussel Shoals Sounds. I think it was on Jackson Highway.

Dennis Coffey

Top of pageBottom of page   By acooolcat (211.78.0.219 - 211.78.0.219) on Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 01:13 am:

Does anyone have details of Wilson's album that included "Baby Don't You Weep" ?
Graham

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ritchie (62.254.0.6 - 62.254.0.6) on Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 09:09 am:

Graham

I guess this would be the Wand album "Great Hits" issued in 1965 on WDM/WDS-672 after he'd signed to Atlantic. The tracks were recorded for Harold Logan's Double L label, and (I believe) produced by Bob Bateman.

It was also issued on a UK Marble Arch album as Great Wilson Pickett Hits, and subsequently on a number of cheapo reisues.

But you probably know all this already!

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ian W (213.122.109.132 - 213.122.109.132) on Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 09:39 pm:

Graham & Ritchie

Is that the Edward Hamilton song?

Ian

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ritchie (62.254.0.6 - 62.254.0.6) on Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 11:16 pm:

Hi Ian

The wicked one's BABY DON'T YOU WEEP is a different song to Mr Hamilton's. The verses are completely different, though the chorus is lyrically similar.

It has the same theme of "Baby Don't you weep no more for me - You know I'm coming home"

It's a great record.

Top of pageBottom of page   By acooolcat (211.78.0.219 - 211.78.0.219) on Friday, March 22, 2002 - 12:09 am:

Hi Ritchie, fancy meeting you here!
Do you have the Wand LP, if so could you please list all the tracks for me?
Ian - if you're interested in tape swapping I could put one together for you, including Baby Don't You Weep.
Cheers, Graham

Top of pageBottom of page   By acooolcat (211.78.0.219 - 211.78.0.219) on Friday, March 22, 2002 - 01:20 am:

Ritchie, I've just seen a "If You Need Me" CD on a website, and it's only five and a half US dollars! I guess it's the same LP set, it includes Baby Don't You Weep, If You Need Me and It's Too Late.
Graham

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ritchie (62.254.0.6 - 62.254.0.6) on Friday, March 22, 2002 - 07:30 am:

Graham

That'll be the one, but don't expect any more than 9 or ten tracks.... (That's all they cut, and one was just a rhythm track!)

Let me know if you still need a tracklisting.

Top of pageBottom of page   By Ian W (213.123.44.232 - 213.123.44.232) on Friday, March 22, 2002 - 09:50 pm:

Graham

Sounds good to me, but I bet you've got all I have!

Ian

Top of pageBottom of page   By acooolcat (211.78.0.219 - 211.78.0.219) on Saturday, March 23, 2002 - 05:29 am:

Ian,
There's a lot of 70's Detroit music I haven't heard. Mail me off list;

acooolcat@yahoo.com

Cheers, Graham

Top of pageBottom of page   By brianday (212.137.221.17 - 212.137.221.17) on Saturday, March 23, 2002 - 08:48 am:

bobby iam a great fan of jackie moore ,as the philly sessions were out print , i sourced a copy
of the cd ,naughty i know ,but when it is rerealeased i will get the real thing ,i didnt know that she did a duet with the wicked pickett
what were the track titles?also if remember rightly "fire and water" by pickett was realeased in the states ,pulled one week later then put out again
remixed slightly

Top of pageBottom of page   By Eli (152.163.197.53 - 152.163.197.53) on Saturday, March 23, 2002 - 02:39 pm:

Brian,

The duet with Pickett and Jackie Moore was a remake of Precious, Precious. It was released in 1982 on the Catawba label. We also did a song called Seconds. We originally did them with Johnny Taylor, but because of "ego-itis" Pickett said "hey Eli, where's the mike at son? Let the Wicked show 'em how it's done"
This was at his home in New Jersey while he was preparing a dish of catfish and collard greens for us with TWO Doberman Pinschers looking on!!

Top of pageBottom of page   By Dennis Coffey (152.163.194.182 - 152.163.194.182) on Saturday, March 23, 2002 - 09:03 pm:

Hi folks. I did Fire and Water with Wilson Pickett. We did some sessions in Nashville at RCA.

Dennis Coffey


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