By Lowell (199.174.178.13 - 199.174.178.13) on Monday, March 04, 2002 - 04:21 am:

Enjoy. Click Here to go to Tera Shirma Tour

By phillysoulman (152.163.204.179 - 152.163.204.179) on Monday, March 04, 2002 - 04:47 am:

Amazing!! It is just as I remember itback then and from my perspective here I feel as though I am there again. looking at it from this angle, I can see Babbitt to the right of the drum booth, George Mcgregor in the drum both, next would be me to the left of the drum booth and then Eddie Willis . Mike Terry was on piano, and it is possible that Johnny Griffith as well because I remember talking to him about Valarie Simpson at the piano. I remember loking up and seeing Milan and Russ, two dark haired guys.
I was very young and just a novice by comparison so I did nt venture in to the control room although I was sure tempted to as well as "walk the walk" Very impressive for a "Jigger"

By Carl Dixon London (62.31.40.173 - 62.31.40.173) on Wednesday, March 06, 2002 - 12:34 pm:

Interesting tour Ralph. It gets better. Remind me about the grand piano. Have I heard this on any Invictus sessions? I remember when I was buying my first Hot Wax and Invictus stuff, there was a piano sound I could not get used to. It seemed to cut through the song instead of blending in and being only part of the song. I have learnt to live with it now, but that piano sound I could tell at 40 paces and identify where it was probably recorded. I think I heard it on The Honey Cone stuff and 100% Aged in Soul - probably!

By Ralph Terrana (209.240.222.130 - 209.240.222.130) on Wednesday, March 06, 2002 - 02:19 pm:

Carl.
I'm really not sure. I would have to listen to the records to see if I could hear what you're referring to. The piano was a very good one and certainly had no honky tonk quality to it.It's possible it was something else that was over-dubbed into the track, but I really can't say. It's also possible that the songs you hear this on were not recorded at Tera Shirma.

By david, glasgow, scotland (213.107.27.25 - 213.107.27.25) on Wednesday, March 06, 2002 - 06:57 pm:

carl
can you give me an example of a track?

i've got most of them on cd.

By Carl Dixon London (62.31.40.173 - 62.31.40.173) on Wednesday, March 06, 2002 - 08:07 pm:

The Honey Cone - The day I found myself
The Honey Cone - Want Ads
Holland Dozier - Why can't we be lovers?
Chairman of the Board - Give me just a little more time
Chairman of the Board - I�m on my way to a better place

Please do not think I am being too critical. This was an observation first when I was 16 in 1971!! I think it was the beginning of me listening deeply to songs for hidden meanings, if you see what I mean. I honestly have pictured a light wood upright, but not over strung, on these sessions, so you can imagine what has been going through my head these last 30 years. You can hear it in the last track for definite. And don't you just love that 'I'm on my way to a better place' - that will be a hymn one day I am sure. Infact I have been in contact with a Gospel Choir and I am going to suggest it -it makes me shiver from top to toe. And I guess that is Jamerson on bass - I could be wrong, but I am sure.

By david, glasgow, scotland (213.107.27.25 - 213.107.27.25) on Wednesday, March 06, 2002 - 08:21 pm:

babbit said that 'give me just a little more time' was recorded at tower studios on grand river.

that possibly eliminates our piano on tera shirma as the perpetrator!

By Carl Dixon London (195.153.219.170 - 195.153.219.170) on Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 04:06 am:

Maybe my ears started to go in my mid teens in that case. Mind you, tonight I have grilled the Invictus chartbusters cd and there is a distinctive sound, albeit not so on 'Band of Gold', that developed. I cannot quite put my 'fingers on the keys', but I will! I am convinced Jamerson plays on loads of the tracks too. I am just grilling some Salsoul stuff too, while I am on the dreaded overnight shift!

By phillysoulman (64.12.106.31 - 64.12.106.31) on Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 04:58 pm:

Keep grilling, It is lunch time and I am starving.
Are you griling the "Gospel Bird"?
(that is an old expression for fried chicken as it usually was served at Baptist church functions)

By BOB BABBITT (205.188.192.177 - 205.188.192.177) on Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 05:06 pm:

HEY CARL.........IF YOU LOOK ON INVICTUS SESSION MUSICIANS I POSTED A MESSAGE ABOUT WHO WERE THE PLAYERS.......BOB BABBITT

By Carl Dixon (62.31.40.173 - 62.31.40.173) on Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 07:27 pm:

I will refresh my memory and take a look at the Invictus posting Bob.

Bob I cannot wait to see you play in the movie, with the other guys! After all these years of hearing you in every house, every city, every street where I have lived, you will be the stars the telescope will be on. I may even take my binoculars to the flicks so I can watch where those fingers move on the frets. And if you ever toured, we need to be able to communicate to you on stage who we are, therefore, I resurrect the 'Tera Shirma' tee-shirt idea with proceeds going to Soulfuldetroit and some for Ralph's piano tuning endeavours! Or Soulfuldetroit tee shirts David! Can you imagine the front row all grinning at you -it would be magic I am sure!

Tonight I will be grilling Invictus again, but the other CD I have. Stand by for more 'piano' questions!!!

Cheers

By Ralph (209.240.222.130 - 209.240.222.130) on Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 10:14 pm:

Hell, if there ever was Tera Shirma T-shirts, give all the proceeds to Soulful Detroit. As far as I'm concerned, this web-site is the greatest thing on the planet.

By Carl Dixon London (195.153.219.170 - 195.153.219.170) on Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 11:17 pm:

Ralph

I could not agree more. It is a constant source of high quality information and banter. I have learnt so much in the last couple of months and so pleased I found this site! I was only looking for information on AL Kent, because of a Xmas CD I received. At work I sometimes apologise and say I am on the forum, I'll be with you in a minute!! Like tonight, I am on my own at work and the forum is excellent company, that, and my CD's I bring in to 'grill'. The things I research now, compared to before Xmas are amazing! It is a whole new angle on a passion that commenced almost 30 years ago. It makes me humble knowing I have lived through a very special era in music, radio and television. And it is the tip of the iceberg for me, as I hardly know any of these records mentioned here. I love the label scans we see occasionally and the 'special guests' who drop in and announce themselves! From all areas of the music business, whether, musicians, songwriters, producers, technicians, studio owners they give such a thrill. I honestly would never have dreamt this could happen. It has given me such encouragement for the future for the things I am doing in my life and for my hopes and dreams. It has made me more passionate about the music I listen to and the music I write. And to know others share this is a gift for me. Now I laugh in the face of The Spice girls and Sophie Ellis Bexter!!!!! Enough rambling - time for some music..

By Ralph (209.240.222.130 - 209.240.222.130) on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 01:03 am:

I understand all you are saying Carl and feel the same.